REVISITED - Builds for each CaC Race based on Transformations

[Labouka [GR]]

So about 4 months ago I made this topic here: http://steamcommunity.com/app/454650/discussions/0/1482109512322135762/

The intention back then was to ask for suggestions one what builds would work best for each race based on the usage for each transformation they can have available, although there was a considerable lack of DLC's back then.

Now, 4 months later, I have all DLC except the Extra Packs (though they will be added soon), and the question is posed once again: what builds can I make for each race based on their transformations?

To wit, here's each transformation I have in mind to use with each race:

Female Saiyan: Super Saiyan Blue*
Male Saiyan: Super Saiyan-->SS3
Female Human: Power Pole Pro
Male Human: Kaioken
Female Majin: Unlock Potential
Male Majin: Purify*
Namekian: Become Giant*
Frieza Race: Golden Form

*Standard disclaimers, to save on time for some things:
1. I don't really care how gimmicky the build is, as long as it works with these transformations. And to get it over with, yes, I am fully aware they are not the best transformations, but I don't care about that as long as there is SOME way for them to work, one way or another.
2. Please keep in mind that I would like these suggestions with PVE in mind. I don't like the multiplayer experience one bit, so no PVP for me.
3. For the Female Saiyan, I want to run hybrid skills (both Strike and Ki Supers) so keep that in mind for that race.

Other than that, offer any suggestions on point spreads, skills to use, QQ Bangs and Super Souls. Anything that can make playing with the transformations for each race work at their best.

[Null_User]

Anything that uses SSB will need a way for you to have ki upkeep because of it's natural drain. Any SSB build also needs to be more careful with the damage they take because SSB increases taken damage. Other than that, I believe that for the most part, SSB builds can more or less mirror old SSJ3 builds. Just be mindful of those two points and either equip accordingly, or edit your own play style to accommodate them.

[Labouka [GR]]

Noted and now here come the follow up questions: What kind of SS3 builds could also work for SSB? Any suggestions for point allocation and QQ Bang? (Also, which Super Souls that deal with Ki management are the best for this sort of thing?)

Apologies if I ask for too much, but I am too casual at this game to judge accordingly when it comes to these things, hence why I am asking for other people's suggestions, who have more experience at this min-maxing kind of thing. x)

[Null_User]

I'm not a build expert. Others around here have much better expertise than me. But when I said you can mirror a SSJ3 build for your SSB one, what I meant was exactly that. If you already have a good SSJ3 build, you can test it by switching to SSB and adding the Meditation skill into it. That can pass as a first test.

SSJ3 builds are usually used as melee builds. Either basic attack or strike supers, OR a mix of both, which is easy to make through souls like Cabba's "I'll make you regret that". Some have used SSJ3 in their ki blast builds. This kind of rounds out their ki blast and melee attacks, but their primary ki blast attack won't spike as much as if using Super Vegeta 2. Then again, cac attack values in this game are ridiculously high compared to roster characters.

If you feel you are taking too much damage (SSJ3's damage reduction vs SSB's increased damage taken), then you might need to either put more points into HP, OR modify your play style to include more evasion and defensive maneuvers.

If you feel you are still losing too much ki, either use more basic attacks or use one of the many ki upkeep strategies posted around here (super souls that grant ki regen, Divinity unleashed, Meditation which adds ki regen as well)

No matter what, simply transplanting a SSJ3 build into a SSB build will give you more damage per hit. How you manage your ki upkeep will be the defining factor on actual DPS. Some people have already dropped back to other super saiyan forms because they noted their overall DPS was reduced because of having to do ki upkeep.

For specific numbers, this is the guide I use.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=790853823
Check the damage formula and point allocation sections to understand how these work. The part about soft and hard caps will enlighten you into how many points per stat and per gender/race you will want to put into your characters.

[Labouka [GR]]

Thanks for the suggestions. I have seen that guide before but really, it goes a bit over my head to work it into the game itself. I know it sounds lazy of me, but I will wait and see if anyone will show up over this here topic and see if they got any build suggestions (also, thank you for your breakdown on the SS3 specifics, though I DO still need a SS3 build suggestion in the first place in order to apply it to SSB :P).

[Null_User]

Originally posted by Labouka GR:

Thanks for the suggestions. I have seen that guide before but really, it goes a bit over my head to work it into the game itself. I know it sounds lazy of me, but I will wait and see if anyone will show up over this here topic and see if they got any build suggestions (also, thank you for your breakdown on the SS3 specifics, though I DO still need a SS3 build suggestion in the first place in order to apply it to SSB :P).

Well, I can share my current SSJ3 fe-saiyan build, but mind you, this is hardly a contester for best build. it's just me derping around and going "all you can eat" with stats.

Level 99 max weight smallest height fe-saiyan
HP 41
Ki 42
Stamina 42
basic attack 125
strike supers 125
ki blast supers 0

QQ bang tier 3
HP 0
Ki 0
Stam 0
Basic +5
strike +5
ki blast -5

skills
Always, Super god Fist, Max Charge
Changeable, Super mad Dance, Sneaky Strike, Super guard, meditation, Final Cannon, All Clear, Pearl Flash, Evil Rise strike, hawk Charge, Freedom kick, Critical Upper. Big bang Kamehameha.

Ultimate moves
Justice Combo, Death Meteor, Super vanishing Ball

Playstyle. Solely PVE. When being targeted by enemy, mainly basic attacks with Super god fist or Justice Combo as finisher. When not targeted, Charge ki and use either Death Meteor or Super Vanishing Ball.

[Labouka [GR]]

Oooooh, that sounds like a quite nice and interesting build to fit my female saiyan too. I will definitely give this one a try. Thanks dude. :)

[Labouka [GR]]

Bumping so that it is not lost in the mists of time.

[Labouka [GR]]

Apologies for the second bump, but I would not like for this discussion to get locked without resolving the discussion's purpose at least. At least getting done the Male Saiyan and either the Humans or Frieza Race. Before it is lost in threads completely. x)

[Your Mom's Oshi]

I'll post my frieza build later.

[Labouka [GR]]

Many thanks mate. I shall wait. :)

[West Dragon]

This is my saiyan build.

Female
Medium Weight and Max Height
+125 ATK, +125 STR, +125 BLA
QQ Bang (I made it using a save editor) -5 HEA, +3 Ki, +5 STA, +1 ATK, +1 STR, +1 BLA for a total +11/-5
Supers:
Super God Fist
Justice Rush
Meditation
Maximum Charge
Ults:
Justice Combination
Supernova Cooler
Awoken:
SSGSS
Evasive:
Vanisher Guard

And this is my Frieza Build

Medium Weight and Max Height
+125 STA, +125 ATK, +125 BLA
QQ Bang (I made using a save editor) -4 HEA, +3 Ki, +5 STA, +2 ATK, -5 STR, +5 BLA for a total +15/-9
Supers:
Focus Flash
Murder Grenade
Do or Die
Maximum Charge
Ults:
Super Black KMHMH Rose
Supernova Cooler
Awoken:
Golden Form
Evasive:
Vanisher Guard

[West Dragon]

Finally, here's my Namekian I designed for raids a while ago that can also prove effective for EM's.

Min Weight, Max Height

+125 HEA, +125 STA, +125 BLA
QQ Bang (I made using a save editor) +5 HEA, +0 Ki, +5 STA, -4 ATK, -5 STR, +5 BLA for a total +15/-9
Supers:
Innocence Bullet
Super Guard
Do or Die
Maximum Charge
Ults:
Supernova Cooler
Energy Zone
Awoken:
Potential Unleashed
Evasive:
Vanisher Guard

[Labouka [GR]]

Oooooh, I like those Frieza Race and Female Saiyan builds a lot mate. What Super Souls did you use for each of them? (Also, any chance you got any builds for a Male Saiyan using Super Saiyan 3 OR Future Saiyan transformations?)

[West Dragon]

Originally posted by Labouka GR:

Oooooh, I like those Frieza Race and Female Saiyan builds a lot mate. What Super Souls did you use for each of them? (Also, any chance you got any builds for a Male Saiyan using Super Saiyan 3 OR Future Saiyan transformations?)

Super Souls are situational, but my favorites are Elder Kai's "Hmm..." for EM's as well as PQ: 122, Fu's "...Experiment..." for quick and easy quests, Kale's "...what I've become" for mixed damage, Goku's "...reborn as something good..." for fighting multiple enemies, and Broly's "Monster?..." for really fast quests in which I can instantly transform and cheese the enemy for a quick finish.

As for a male saiyan build, I haven't considered making one as my style leaves me relying heavily on supers.

[Labouka [GR]]

Ah yes, all of these are good, yeah. Just one thing, which ones of those would work the best specifically for the Frieza Race, btw?