Why isn't there a female option for the Frieza Clan?

[Vlka-Fenryka-7th]

I know there are no female members in the DBZ anime or manga, except for being mention in a single line of dialogue in both the Manga and Anime by Frieza during the Frieza Saga. Where
Frieza states to Goku "your the first person aside from my parants I've have to dust off after".

Bit of a stretch I know but the female Majins where also a game created race option for Dragon Ball Heroes thanks to Miss Buu, hell even the book that caused Majin Buu to create Miss Buu in Dragon Ball Online is in the Majin opening in Xenoverse 2 (Bob & Margret).

[the song you always skip]

Spoiler;

King Cold is actually a Queen, thus Frieza's mother.

[wizard master結城晶子リ]

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I prefer "Frost Mutant"

The word "demon" is overused between being used for Piccolo, Majin Buu, Dabura, Demigra.

From what I'm told "Majin" translates to "Demon man/person" which is fine, but Majin buu is clearly a different creature than Dabura and later Towa so the term doesn't work for both

Demigra could be a demon or a kaio.

Anyway, don't like using demon for yet another race.

To be fair, Dabura and Demigra are both residents of the Demon Realm, and the term Majin literally translates to "demon". And Piccolo is a member of the Demon Clan of Namekians.

what isn team 4 star is not real dude kami is frmo the dragon clan in the namekian race witch makes dragon balls piccolo is warrior tyep namekian witch fights team 34 star isnt cannon they just makeing up funny stuff bro there isnt no demon clan in there race

[AyCeeFresh]

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Arcosian=Filler based AMERICAN dub made name
Frost Demon=Fanbase made Name
Frieza Race=a name used to describe frieza's unknown race by the Creator of Dragonball

frieza's race is the like the ice demons sometimes when u vs cell on a pq he says he has all the info i have on the frost demon race u are not worth abosrbing

Just because that's what Cell calls them doesn't mean that's what their actual name is. Literally no one else in Xenoverse calls them that, especially other members of the Frieza race, so that's likely the name Cell refers to them as to keep things from getting confusing. As of right now, Frieza's race has no canonical name, just like Yoda's species from Star Wars has no canonical name.

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what isn team 4 star is not real dude kami is frmo the dragon clan in the namekian race witch makes dragon balls piccolo is warrior tyep namekian witch fights team 34 star isnt cannon they just makeing up funny stuff bro there isnt no demon clan in there race

I never mentioned Team Four Star. It's canon that King Piccolo was part of the Demon Clan. Here, directly from the Dragon Ball Wiki:

Demon Clans (魔族 Mazoku)—alternatively referred to as Evil Tribes—refer to several groups of evil aliens that appear in the Dragon Ball series. To be a Demon Clansman you must be pure evil, and Demon Clansmen possess certain properties that their race does not normally have—notably King Piccolo and his offspring possessed abilities that other Namekians did not, such as the ability to completely destroy a Flying Nimbus and stop people's spirits from going to Otherworld by forcing them to remain dwelling in the living realm. King Piccolo was also able to birth mutant offspring, and Lord Slug and his clan were shown to have developed a weakness to sunlight. However, if someone loses their pure evil attribute, they will cease to be a Demon Clansman, as displayed by Piccolo—who loses his Demon Clan status by the time of the battle with Raditz.

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what isn team 4 star is not real dude kami is frmo the dragon clan in the namekian race witch makes dragon balls piccolo is warrior tyep namekian witch fights team 34 star isnt cannon they just makeing up funny stuff bro there isnt no demon clan in there race

I never mentioned Team Four Star. It's canon that King Piccolo was part of the Demon Clan. Here, directly from the Dragon Ball Wiki:

Demon Clans (魔族 Mazoku)—alternatively referred to as Evil Tribes—refer to several groups of evil aliens that appear in the Dragon Ball series. To be a Demon Clansman you must be pure evil, and Demon Clansmen possess certain properties that their race does not normally have—notably King Piccolo and his offspring possessed abilities that other Namekians did not, such as the ability to completely destroy a Flying Nimbus and stop people's spirits from going to Otherworld by forcing them to remain dwelling in the living realm. King Piccolo was also able to birth mutant offspring, and Lord Slug and his clan were shown to have developed a weakness to sunlight. However, if someone loses their pure evil attribute, they will cease to be a Demon Clansman, as displayed by Piccolo—who loses his Demon Clan status by the time of the battle with Raditz.

The entire demon clan thing was retconned in Dragon Ball Z. when you learn that his true race is called Namekian. Altho his Title: Demon King Piccolo remained, just like Vegeta: Prince of all Saiyans yet he has no planet or kingdom to rule.

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I never mentioned Team Four Star. It's canon that King Piccolo was part of the Demon Clan. Here, directly from the Dragon Ball Wiki:

Demon Clans (魔族 Mazoku)—alternatively referred to as Evil Tribes—refer to several groups of evil aliens that appear in the Dragon Ball series. To be a Demon Clansman you must be pure evil, and Demon Clansmen possess certain properties that their race does not normally have—notably King Piccolo and his offspring possessed abilities that other Namekians did not, such as the ability to completely destroy a Flying Nimbus and stop people's spirits from going to Otherworld by forcing them to remain dwelling in the living realm. King Piccolo was also able to birth mutant offspring, and Lord Slug and his clan were shown to have developed a weakness to sunlight. However, if someone loses their pure evil attribute, they will cease to be a Demon Clansman, as displayed by Piccolo—who loses his Demon Clan status by the time of the battle with Raditz.

The entire demon clan thing was retconned in Dragon Ball Z. when you learn that his true race is called Namekian. Altho his Title: Demon King Piccolo remained, just like Vegeta: Prince of all Saiyans yet he has no planet or kingdom to rule.

I repeat: "Demon Clans refer to several groups of evil aliens that appear in the Dragon Ball series", it says nothing about them having to be ACTUAL demons, just that they're part of the Demon Clan and that being part of it gives them abilities their race doesn't usually has.

Seems like you need to pay more attention.

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The entire demon clan thing was retconned in Dragon Ball Z. when you learn that his true race is called Namekian. Altho his Title: Demon King Piccolo remained, just like Vegeta: Prince of all Saiyans yet he has no planet or kingdom to rule.

I repeat: "Demon Clans refer to several groups of evil aliens that appear in the Dragon Ball series", it says nothing about them having to be ACTUAL demons, just that they're part of the Demon Clan and that being part of it gives them abilities their race doesn't usually has.

Seems like you need to pay more attention.

To get back on point, King Piccolo belonging to the Demon Clan aside, it is clear that Frieza himself, despite being pure evil, does not. Krillin and many other people he killed clearly went to the Otherworld and he hasn't displayed any other abilities that his race might otherwise not possess, with the exception of his immense power (which is explained by his mutant status).

Frieza and his race, therefore, are not part of the Demon Clan/Mazoku. They're just very powerful aliens, Frieza especially.

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I repeat: "Demon Clans refer to several groups of evil aliens that appear in the Dragon Ball series", it says nothing about them having to be ACTUAL demons, just that they're part of the Demon Clan and that being part of it gives them abilities their race doesn't usually has.

Seems like you need to pay more attention.

To get back on point, King Piccolo belonging to the Demon Clan aside, it is clear that Frieza himself, despite being pure evil, does not. Krillin and many other people he killed clearly went to the Otherworld and he hasn't displayed any other abilities that his race might otherwise not possess, with the exception of his immense power (which is explained by his mutant status).

Frieza and his race, therefore, are not part of the Demon Clan/Mazoku. They're just very powerful aliens, Frieza especially.

Kinda what I was aiming to say, but yea Frieza is not a demon (figuratively yes) but not in any clan or race of demons what so ever.

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I repeat: "Demon Clans refer to several groups of evil aliens that appear in the Dragon Ball series", it says nothing about them having to be ACTUAL demons, just that they're part of the Demon Clan and that being part of it gives them abilities their race doesn't usually has.

Seems like you need to pay more attention.

To get back on point, King Piccolo belonging to the Demon Clan aside, it is clear that Frieza himself, despite being pure evil, does not. Krillin and many other people he killed clearly went to the Otherworld and he hasn't displayed any other abilities that his race might otherwise not possess, with the exception of his immense power (which is explained by his mutant status).

Frieza and his race, therefore, are not part of the Demon Clan/Mazoku. They're just very powerful aliens, Frieza especially.

I also never said Frieza was part of it. I was merely pointing out that, despite King Piccolo not being a demon as in being from the Demon Realm, his status as a Demon Clan member would qualify him to be counted among other demons like Buu and Dabura.
I know Frieza isn't a demon, if we go off of Toriyama's inspiration for Frieza's design, he'd be a literal monster from his nightmares. In which case, I propose to call his race "Akumonsuta", a combination of the words akumu and monsuta (nightmare and monster respectively), as that's the best I could come up with and would fit with the other alien names (Namekian/Namekku-sejin from namekuji, meaning slug. Sayians/Saiya-jin from yasai, meaning vegetable and so on).

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I will just call it Frieza race. I am not down with calling it some fan made term. Arcosian and Frost Demon sound too western. Monsuta is the japanese pronounciation of the English word "Monster". The Japanese word for Monster is "Kaibutsu" "obake" "Bakemono"

[MekaDovah]

Well part of the problem is Dragonball basically just makes stuff up as they go along and don't bother to flesh anything out. Freeza's race is probably never going to be explored in any real depth.

Heck, the Saiyans are the stars of the show and when you think about even they're not explored in any real depth.

I like the series and all, but it's just a shame they don't explore any of their ideas.

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Well part of the problem is Dragonball basically just makes stuff up as they go along and don't bother to flesh anything out. Freeza's race is probably never going to be explored in any real depth.

Heck, the Saiyans are the stars of the show and when you think about even they're not explored in any real depth.

I like the series and all, but it's just a shame they don't explore any of their ideas.

To be fair, there's not much to explore about (universe 7's) Saiyans besides "Warrior race, wiped out the Tuffles, work for Frieza, destroyed by Frieza on Beerus' orders, all of them violent as hell".

Now, Universe 6's Saiyans would be more interesting to learn about, but even then, there's not much to tell.

[MekaDovah]

I dunno. Uni 7 Saiyans have some potential. Like they had a monarchy, but also acquired and held planet Vegeta only for as long as King Vegeta's reign. Was he their only king? Also they are a very classist society, going on about elite warrior this and low-class warrior that, with at least one story suggesting their food preparation is done solely by failed warriors. Those alone raise plenty of questions worth exploring I think.

Although I do feel perhaps such questions probably feel off topic given the nature of the series and wouldn't feel like Dragonball I guess if they delved too much into these things so I'm not sure how you'd reconcile trying to have it both ways.

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I dunno. Uni 7 Saiyans have some potential. Like they had a monarchy, but also acquired and held planet Vegeta only for as long as King Vegeta's reign. Was he their only king? Also they are a very classist society, going on about elite warrior this and low-class warrior that, with at least one story suggesting their food preparation is done solely by failed warriors. Those alone raise plenty of questions worth exploring I think.

Although I do feel perhaps such questions probably feel off topic given the nature of the series and wouldn't feel like Dragonball I guess if they delved too much into these things so I'm not sure how you'd reconcile trying to have it both ways.

As far as the Saiyans that lived on Planet Plant/Planet Vegeta, King Vegeta was their only king. His reign didn't last that long before Frieza entered the picture according to the official timeline. Only about ten years or so, if I recall correctly, maybe less than that.

The Saiyan Class system is actually surprisingly simple, too. You have the elites and then the low class warriors. That's literally it. Anyone who wasn't an elite was a low-class warrior. Bardock, for example, despite being incredibly strong, was low-class, whereas Nappa, who was comparitively weak when compared to the likes of Bardock and both the king and prince, was an elite Saiyan (though this could be a dubism, as I'm not sure if he's referred to as such in the Japanese dub of the anime or the original manga).

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frieza's race is the like the ice demons sometimes when u vs cell on a pq he says he has all the info i have on the frost demon race u are not worth abosrbing

Just because that's what Cell calls them doesn't mean that's what their actual name is. Literally no one else in Xenoverse calls them that, especially other members of the Frieza race, so that's likely the name Cell refers to them as to keep things from getting confusing. As of right now, Frieza's race has no canonical name, just like Yoda's species from Star Wars has no canonical name.

In my mind, Cell referring to Frieza's race as Frost Demons simply referred to Frieza's family (with their reputation, calling them demons isn't farfetched). He had the genes of 2 of them, so naturally he didn't seem to care about another one showing up.

Similar to how Dr. Gero did not include Trunks in Cell's genetic makeup, he had enough Saiyan DNA.

I suppose "Frost Demons" could be a similar name situation as the Iconians from Star Trek The Next Generation. The Iconians earned the name of "Demons of Air and Darkness" because they could instantly travel anywhere they liked. People called them that instead of Iconian out of spite and hearsay. Something tells me this is a similar situation, except in this case, the real name of Frieza's race is unknown to the audience.

I would like to see Super providing an answer. It took until DBZ to find out Piccolo and Kami are Namekian (and ironically, also not demons/gods), so maybe eventually they will do it for Frieza's kind too.