PS4 CONTROLLER HELP PLEASE NOW OR I JUMP OFF BRIDGE PLEASE!!!!

[TrapMachineBroke]

So something i've noticed is when i use my ps4 controller in xenoverse it shows numbers instead of buttons, and i can't navigate up with the dpad in menus. Heres a screenshot of the numbers being displayed instead of the ps4 buttons, its annoying, and i belive its my pc, not the game, but maybe someone can help with the stupid issue. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1155062109

[Corrodias]

I don't think the game has native PS4 gamepad support and will ever show the PS4 buttons, but you can convince it work correctly and to show the Xbox buttons (which I prefer anyway).

The short version is: use Steam's built-in controller support or use DS4Windows to emulate an Xbox 360 gamepad with it.

Explaining why this happens will take a little bit of background, so bear with me.

Windows has two main APIs through which a game can read inputs.

One is the older one, DirectInput, and most every kind of device is supported through DirectInput. The PS4 gamepad, when connected to Windows, communicates solely through this API. The downside is that the buttons are numbered (as you see here) and the D-pad may act as a hat switch or as individual buttons. There are so many different kinds of devices that are supported through DirectInput that the game can't make assumptions about which button is which or what they're named.

The other is a newer one, XInput, and basically the only thing that can be read through XInput is the Xbox 360 gamepad. That gamepad also responds to DirectInput, so games that don't use XInput can still support it, but XInput basically requires a 360 controller.

If you convince the game to talk to your gamepad via XInput, it will show (Xbox 360) buttons and will understand the d-pad. The way we do this is by emulating a 360 gamepad.

The way I do it is with DS4Windows, specifically this fork of it which is still under active development: https://github.com/Ryochan7/DS4Windows - It's important to enable the "Hide DS4 controller" option, because if you *don't*, the PS4 gamepad will show up in Windows twice: once as itself (DirectInput-only) and once as an Xbox 360 gamepad (emulated). Turn on that option, and the program hides the regular gamepad, leaving only the emulated 360 one for games to talk to.

I am told that Steam itself can do something similar. Go into settings > controller > General Controller Settings and enable PS4 Controller support. Unfortunately, I have very little experience with this method and cannot really help you set it up.

[TrapMachineBroke]

Originally posted by Corrodias:

I don't think the game has native PS4 gamepad support and will ever show the PS4 buttons, but you can convince it work correctly and to show the Xbox buttons (which I prefer anyway).

The short version is: use Steam's built-in controller support or use DS4Windows to emulate an Xbox 360 gamepad with it.

Explaining why this happens will take a little bit of background, so bear with me.

Windows has two main APIs through which a game can read inputs.

One is the older one, DirectInput, and most every kind of device is supported through DirectInput. The PS4 gamepad, when connected to Windows, communicates solely through this API. The downside is that the buttons are numbered (as you see here) and the D-pad may act as a hat switch or as individual buttons. There are so many different kinds of devices that are supported through DirectInput that the game can't make assumptions about which button is which or what they're named.

The other is a newer one, XInput, and basically the only thing that can be read through XInput is the Xbox 360 gamepad. That gamepad also responds to DirectInput, so games that don't use XInput can still support it, but XInput basically requires a 360 controller.

If you convince the game to talk to your gamepad via XInput, it will show (Xbox 360) buttons and will understand the d-pad. The way we do this is by emulating a 360 gamepad.

The way I do it is with DS4Windows, specifically this fork of it which is still under active development: https://github.com/Ryochan7/DS4Windows - It's important to enable the "Hide DS4 controller" option, because if you *don't*, the PS4 gamepad will show up in Windows twice: once as itself (DirectInput-only) and once as an Xbox 360 gamepad (emulated). Turn on that option, and the program hides the regular gamepad, leaving only the emulated 360 one for games to talk to.

I am told that Steam itself can do something similar. Go into settings > controller > General Controller Settings and enable PS4 Controller support. Unfortunately, I have very little experience with this method and cannot really help you set it up.

Well my friend has the buttons shown in game, AND in gtav, so there is a way, and its not a mod. So im confused as FU**.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1155054026

[Demon Lord]

Originally posted by Ⓗⓔⓝⓣⓐⓘ:

Originally posted by Corrodias:

I don't think the game has native PS4 gamepad support and will ever show the PS4 buttons, but you can convince it work correctly and to show the Xbox buttons (which I prefer anyway).

The short version is: use Steam's built-in controller support or use DS4Windows to emulate an Xbox 360 gamepad with it.

Explaining why this happens will take a little bit of background, so bear with me.

Windows has two main APIs through which a game can read inputs.

One is the older one, DirectInput, and most every kind of device is supported through DirectInput. The PS4 gamepad, when connected to Windows, communicates solely through this API. The downside is that the buttons are numbered (as you see here) and the D-pad may act as a hat switch or as individual buttons. There are so many different kinds of devices that are supported through DirectInput that the game can't make assumptions about which button is which or what they're named.

The other is a newer one, XInput, and basically the only thing that can be read through XInput is the Xbox 360 gamepad. That gamepad also responds to DirectInput, so games that don't use XInput can still support it, but XInput basically requires a 360 controller.

If you convince the game to talk to your gamepad via XInput, it will show (Xbox 360) buttons and will understand the d-pad. The way we do this is by emulating a 360 gamepad.

The way I do it is with DS4Windows, specifically this fork of it which is still under active development: https://github.com/Ryochan7/DS4Windows - It's important to enable the "Hide DS4 controller" option, because if you *don't*, the PS4 gamepad will show up in Windows twice: once as itself (DirectInput-only) and once as an Xbox 360 gamepad (emulated). Turn on that option, and the program hides the regular gamepad, leaving only the emulated 360 one for games to talk to.

I am told that Steam itself can do something similar. Go into settings > controller > General Controller Settings and enable PS4 Controller support. Unfortunately, I have very little experience with this method and cannot really help you set it up.

Well my friend has the buttons shown in game, AND in gtav, so there is a way, and its not a mod. So im confused as FU**.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1155054026

Use his method for the fix. Then simply install a ps4 button display mod. I'll locate for you this evening. I think between corrodias's suggestion and the mod i mentioned youll find an acceptable solution

[TrapMachineBroke]

Originally posted by Ryuko:

Originally posted by Ⓗⓔⓝⓣⓐⓘ:

Well my friend has the buttons shown in game, AND in gtav, so there is a way, and its not a mod. So im confused as FU**.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1155054026

Use his method for the fix. Then simply install a ps4 button display mod. I'll locate for you this evening. I think between corrodias's suggestion and the modi mentiobed youll find an acceptable solution

Can I use the ps4 button prompt mod without getting banned? Games these days are getting more strict with what you can modify and what you can't. And btw i've known about ds4 for SOME time now, and have used it, i am just curious as to how my friend can just from fresh, plug in his ps4 controller, no ds4, no input mappers, no mods, and just have ps4 button prompts, but it seems hes like the only one in the world to get it i guess.

[Demon Lord]

Originally posted by Ⓗⓔⓝⓣⓐⓘ:

Originally posted by Ryuko:

Use his method for the fix. Then simply install a ps4 button display mod. I'll locate for you this evening. I think between corrodias's suggestion and the modi mentiobed youll find an acceptable solution

Can I use the ps4 button prompt mod without getting banned? Games these days are getting more strict with what you can modify and what you can't. And btw i've known about ds4 for SOME time now, and have used it, i am just curious as to how my friend can just from fresh, plug in his ps4 controller, no ds4, no input mappers, no mods, and just have ps4 button prompts, but it seems hes like the only one in the world to get it i guess.

Mods currently will not get you banned. And even if that policy is implemented you're not directly modifying game files to use it. Shouldn't cause you problems

EDIT ill check with a friend on this too

[Corrodias]

I am curious about your friend getting the PS4 button prompts on the Windows version, supposedly without a mod, though. That is of course assuming he's not just giving you screenshots of the PS4 version of the game.

By what means has he connected the gamepad to his PC? Is he using the Sony wireless adapter, perhaps?

[TrapMachineBroke]

Originally posted by Corrodias:

I am curious about your friend getting the PS4 button prompts on the Windows version, supposedly without a mod, though. That is of course assuming he's not just giving you screenshots of the PS4 version of the game.

By what means has he connected the gamepad to his PC? Is he using the Sony wireless adapter, perhaps?

No he has connected the ps4 controller through his phone charger, literally nothing else, and he just has the button prompts on the pc version, i can literally have him upload a video launching tha game if you really are that skeptical about it.

[Corrodias]

That's not necessary. What would be helpful is you identifying what's different about his system that it does that while yours doesn't.

[TrapMachineBroke]

Originally posted by Corrodias:

That's not necessary. What would be helpful is you identifying what's different about his system that it does that while yours doesn't.

Trust me, we've tried everything, i uninstalled my controller drivers and reinstalled them by plugging in the ps4 controller, downloaded random things my friend had, games he had, so on so forth. Nothing makes mine works like his. It's really stupid, i actually have 2 friends that have this as well, they can literally from a fresh start, plug in their ps4 controller and just have ps4 controller support and button prompts on many games, including this one. Well, fucc it, i like the xbone controllers as well, and im getting the one x. So tbh ill probably just live with the ps4 controller to xbox buton prompts and deal with it. Most of the reason I even care is that now that i know you CAN indeed have the button prompts in alot of games, without mods, it'd be a good thing if i could figure out how. Trust me he himself doesn't even know, the only reason i even found out he had the ps4 button prompts was because i asked. He thought them popping up was normal, hence why i just found out. So i don't think personally theres anything different between mine and his pc besides specs. So im confused, he's confused, and this thread is probably just confusing more people lol.

[Corrodias]

This is honestly the first I've heard of any PC game natively displaying PS4 buttons. I don't doubt they exist, but I think "many games" may be an exaggeration. I can at least assure you that my copy of XV2 does not display PS4 buttons when the controller is connected normally, so at least yours is not behaving strangely.

[TrapMachineBroke]

Yeah, i think my friends are literally like some of the luckiest people ever or some shiz i guess.

[Corrodias]

I have run across some comments on a mod that suggest connecting the DS4 via bluetooth, rather than via USB, will cause the game to recognize it automatically. They *may* be referring to the "DUALSHOCK4 USB Wireless Adapter", a specific product sold by Sony.

[TrapMachineBroke]

Idk, all i know is that both of my friends get the buttons in game without wireless bluetoothing it. My friends literally just use their phone chargers to plug their ps4 controllers in lol. It's fine at this point, but it is just so odd that they can get the prompts like its nothing.

[Majin Mew]

XV2 comes with native support (INCLUDING buttons displayed with the original PS4 icons, i.e. Triangle, Square etc.) without any needed 3rd-party programs.

The difference is the version of your own / your friends' PS4 controllers.

XV2 supports the first-gen Dual Shock 4 controllers (I use one; no mods; PS4 icons are shown; controls work perfectly fine both wired or via Bluetooth). Sony updated their Dual Shock 4 a while ago though and stsrted shipping PS4 with that newer version.

XV2 has problems getting them to work properly, so using 3rd-party programs like Input Mapper might be necessary to play XV2 with a newer DS4. And as it was said, there are mods for the icons, although I don't get why anyone would think they need them xD