Super souls that affect super saiyan

[MantisUK]

Any good ones?

[Dave]

Originally posted by Mantis UK:

Any good ones?

"Goku the Legendary Super Saiyan" is a good one.

[iamcorn]

"I'll make you regret that" is arguably the best one regarding just SS transformations

[ᴅᴜsᴛɪɴ ᴡᴇᴇʙᴇʀ]

I am Super Vegeta

[red delsaber]

Originally posted by Iamcorn:

"I'll make you regret that" is arguably the best one regarding just SS transformations

this,it gives the largest stat boosts of any.

[Ragu O Ragla]

I use Champa's Super Soul because I'm melee but I don't know if there's a better one. I previously used Cabba's Super Soul by the way.

[Demon Lord]

Originally posted by Rodimus:

I use Champa's Super Soul because I'm melee but I don't know if there's a better one. I previously used Cabba's Super Soul by the way.

Using that super soul in tandem with ssj vegeta makes a very mean hybrid set up

[RSRay]

i just use "before creation comes ruin" along with SSJ3 on my ki build

i know that SSJ3 is meant for strike builds but combining it with the super soul means
20% basic attack and strike attack damage boost,
30% ki based attacks damage boost, and
15% defense against basic and strike attacks (which you'll get most likely get hit by more often than ki attacks)

also using divinity unleashed to charge ki means i only need to charge up 1 ki bar and i get a temporary ki gain boost which negates the slow ki gain problem SSJ3 has

QUICK EDIT: basically put this allows me to have better defense against basic attacks and strike attacks and do more damage with basic attacks while having a really good boost with ki based attacks

[Dave]

Originally posted by Red Shell Robo:

i just use "before creation comes ruin" along with SSJ3 on my ki build

i know that SSJ3 is meant for strike builds but combining it with the super soul means
20% basic attack and strike attack damage boost,
30% ki based attacks damage boost, and
15% defense against basic and strike attacks (which you'll get most likely get hit by more often than ki attacks)

also using divinity unleashed to charge ki means i only need to charge up 1 ki bar and i get a temporary ki gain boost which negates the slow ki gain problem SSJ3 has

QUICK EDIT: basically put this allows me to have better defense against basic attacks and strike attacks and do more damage with basic attacks while having a really good boost with ki based attacks

... Try Potential Unleashed?

[Demon Lord]

Originally posted by Dave:

Originally posted by Red Shell Robo:

i just use "before creation comes ruin" along with SSJ3 on my ki build

i know that SSJ3 is meant for strike builds but combining it with the super soul means
20% basic attack and strike attack damage boost,
30% ki based attacks damage boost, and
15% defense against basic and strike attacks (which you'll get most likely get hit by more often than ki attacks)

also using divinity unleashed to charge ki means i only need to charge up 1 ki bar and i get a temporary ki gain boost which negates the slow ki gain problem SSJ3 has

QUICK EDIT: basically put this allows me to have better defense against basic attacks and strike attacks and do more damage with basic attacks while having a really good boost with ki based attacks

... Try Potential Unleashed?

Not viable with saiyans. Especially ones that rely on basic atks. Super saiyan scales basic damage much differently that PU does for them specifically. And that applies to all ssj iterations. Although PU is fine for all others. You can compare the damage in training if youre unsure but ive tested it

[RSRay]

Originally posted by Ryuko:

Originally posted by Dave:

... Try Potential Unleashed?

Not viable with saiyans. Especially ones that rely on basic atks. Super saiyan scales basic damage much differently that PU does for them specifically. And that applies to all ssj iterations. Although PU is fine for all others. You can compare the damage in training if youre unsure but ive tested it

i basically use both basic attacks and ki attacks so yeah that is why i prefer SSJ3

also for female majins i recommend using kaioken X20 with SSGSS Goku's super soul for it
(since female majins already have the buff in stamina regen when stamina broken)

Quick Edit: also for those asking why Kaioken X20 instead of PU for female majins? well Kaioken X20 has the infinite teleport thing buff that normally requires 2 stamina bars to use (1 stamina bar when not being attacked) also you can keep using that boost move thing that normally needs 1 stamina bar to use

[Sandra Crimson]

I will use all of my strength to kill you for melle and
Getting beat up makes me cranky for ki based

[RSRay]

Originally posted by tftrevor813:

I will use all of my strength to kill you for melle and
Getting beat up makes me cranky for ki based

i can't remember off the top of my head what the 1st one you mentioned does,
but for the "getting beat up makes me cranky" super soul, while i never used it i heard it's auto-ki regen is painfully slow and the XL Ki-Based moves damage improvement only happens when you have full stamina which most of the time won't be the case

[Sandra Crimson]

Originally posted by Red Shell Robo:

Originally posted by tftrevor813:

I will use all of my strength to kill you for melle and
Getting beat up makes me cranky for ki based

i can't remember off the top of my head what the 1st one you mentioned does,
but for the "getting beat up makes me cranky" super soul, while i never used it i heard it's auto-ki regen is painfully slow and the XL Ki-Based moves damage improvement only happens when you have full stamina which most of the time won't be the case

1st one is when ki is maxed your basic attack rises
and the other one works better when stamina is at max *not everyone uses it*

[Demon Lord]

Originally posted by Red Shell Robo:

i basically use both basic attacks and ki attacks so yeah that is why i prefer SSJ3

It works the same way my use of cabba + Super Vegeta works. It's buffs pretty much everything across the board, just with a lighter ki recovery cost. Though I didn't originally rely on divinity unleashed so much as I used drain charge for an instant fill up when i performed a combo.

Just depends on your play style. What I was getting at earlier with the Potential Unleashed skll set is that saiyans have a very very low basic attack damage rating (females do at least that I tested) and while potential unleashed does the standard 15% all around buff that low base form damage for female saiyans (likely also for males) doesn't change much. On the othr hand, with super vegeta and super saiyan (all variations), they give a big spike to basic attacks raising base damage upwards of 100 - 200%.

That buff typically raises the base basic attack damage to about 100 - 150 HP above a normal attack damage for other races, after a potential unleashed buff is applied to them.

I'll post screen shots in a bit to show this as I think it's more easily explained that way

Originally posted by Red Shell Robo:

also for female majins i recommend using kaioken X20 with SSGSS Goku's super soul for it
(since female majins already have the buff in stamina regen when stamina broken)

Quick Edit: also for those asking why Kaioken X20 instead of PU for female majins? well Kaioken X20 has the infinite teleport thing buff that normally requires 2 stamina bars to use (1 stamina bar when not being attacked) also you can keep using that boost move thing that normally needs 1 stamina bar to use

This is also highly abusable for them. There's practically no other race better suited because of the break state recovery speed. I still use PU as a less risky preference tbh. But yeah