Bojack Why though

[LaucianScout]

Can someone tell me why Bojack's mentor conditions are such ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥?

[♫Doctor Diddlerino♫]

What are they?

[Rutabaga]

Originally posted by ♫Frear♫:

What are they?

Whilst I forget which is 2 and 3 orderwise, they go like this:

1. Get a full set of Bido's and Bujin's clothing.
2/3. Complete every lesson for every mentor.
2/3. Complete every expert mission.
4. Get and wear a full set of Bojack's clothes.

[Baklavah]

That's craptastic... So basically we have to be Asian levels of gamer to get Bojack's skills. What the hell Bamco and Dimps? Are you idiots high?

[Leeric]

Originally posted by Baklavah:

That's craptastic... So basically we have to be Asian levels of gamer to get Bojack's skills. What the hell Bamco and Dimps? Are you idiots high?

Lol you already have more than enough hours to be able to have all that.

[Dana.]

Originally posted by Leeric:

Lol you already have more than enough hours to be able to have all that.

That doesn't mean anything. Not all people are achievement-addicted or want to complete a game by 100%. Personally, I just don't want to be forced to waste my time with parts of the game that I do not enjoy. Like the crappy expert-missions or mentor-trainings which offer only lame moves.

@OT
Just another example of terrible game design. I doubt that the people at Dimps even like or play videogames themselves. Which videogame-fan would come up with so many poor design decisions.

[Leeric]

Originally posted by domi_nique:

Originally posted by Leeric:

Lol you already have more than enough hours to be able to have all that.

That doesn't mean anything. Not all people are achievement-addicted or want to complete a game by 100%. Personally, I just don't want to be forced to waste my time with parts of the game that I do not enjoy. Like the crappy expert-missions or mentor-trainings which offer only lame moves.

@OT
Just another example of terrible game design. I doubt that the people at Dimps even like or play videogames themselves. Which videogame-fan would come up with so many poor design decisions.

None of that is 100% its 2/3rds try again.

Those parts make sense at least. The TP needed to buy the clothes is kind of nonsense.

Which is funny you bring up them not playing video games themselves because many games had content locks.

Contradicting yourself all over the place.

[Dana.]

Originally posted by Leeric:

None of that is 100% its 2/3rds try again.

The 100% weren't meant "literally". It was just a number to explain my point. Doesn't matter if these things represent 20,30, 50% of the game. Most people only play the parts that they enjoy, not to complete the game to a certain degree.

Originally posted by Leeric:

Which is funny you bring up them not playing video games themselves because many games had content locks.

Sorry. Didn't know someone would take everything I write "literally". I meant they never played good games, because only trashy ones or hardcore asian-grind-simulators have such content locks.

[Leeric]

Originally posted by domi_nique:

Originally posted by Leeric:

None of that is 100% its 2/3rds try again.

The 100% weren't meant "literally". It was just a number to explain my point. Doesn't matter if these things represent 20,30, 50% of the game. Most people only play the parts that they enjoy, not to complete the game to a certain degree.

Originally posted by Leeric:

Which is funny you bring up them not playing video games themselves because many games had content locks.

Sorry. Didn't know someone would take everything I write "literally". I meant they never played good games, because only trashy ones or hardcore asian-grind-simulators have such content locks.

Soooo Super Smash bros is garbage?

You can hide behind me being too literal all you want. Your comment made no sense. Period. Just easier to point it out literally.

Most older games had content unlocks. Even the good ones. Maybe you are too young to have played or remember those.

[Dana.]

Originally posted by Leeric:

Soooo Super Smash bros is garbage?

If you need to match some stupid requirements to unlock the stuff like in Bojack's case, then yes.

Originally posted by Leeric:

Most older games had content unlocks. Even the good ones.

It's not about having to unlock stuff or not. It's about the requirements.

- Need to complete a quest to get move or clothing piece X? Fine.
- Need to do A, B, C, D and E, even though everything except A is boring crap? Not fine.
- Need to do the same boring, 8+ minutes long, quest 15 times over and over again and get only duplicates instead of that one outfit piece that is missing thanks to randomness? Not fine.

Games with these mechanics can never be called "good".

[Baklavah]

Originally posted by Leeric:

Originally posted by domi_nique:

The 100% weren't meant "literally". It was just a number to explain my point. Doesn't matter if these things represent 20,30, 50% of the game. Most people only play the parts that they enjoy, not to complete the game to a certain degree.


Sorry. Didn't know someone would take everything I write "literally". I meant they never played good games, because only trashy ones or hardcore asian-grind-simulators have such content locks.

Soooo Super Smash bros is garbage?

You can hide behind me being too literal all you want. Your comment made no sense. Period. Just easier to point it out literally.

Most older games had content unlocks. Even the good ones. Maybe you are too young to have played or remember those.

There is no asian-grind to Smash Bros... what the hell are you talking about? The content is very quickly accessible, especially on lower difficulties.

[Leeric]

I see we got a bunch of people with terrible reading skills.

In smash bros you needed to complete a lot of stuff to access additonal chracters. Aka content locks.

Originally posted by domi_nique:

Originally posted by Leeric:

Soooo Super Smash bros is garbage?

If you need to match some stupid requirements to unlock the stuff like in Bojack's case, then yes.

Originally posted by Leeric:

Most older games had content unlocks. Even the good ones.

It's not about having to unlock stuff or not. It's about the requirements.

- Need to complete a quest to get move or clothing piece X? Fine.
- Need to do A, B, C, D and E, even though everything except A is boring crap? Not fine.
- Need to do the same boring, 8+ minutes long, quest 15 times over and over again and get only duplicates instead of that one outfit piece that is missing thanks to randomness? Not fine.

Games with these mechanics can never be called "good".

Aside from the TP medal system plenty of "good games" have a similar system.

Originally posted by Baklavah:

Originally posted by Leeric:

Soooo Super Smash bros is garbage?

You can hide behind me being too literal all you want. Your comment made no sense. Period. Just easier to point it out literally.

Most older games had content unlocks. Even the good ones. Maybe you are too young to have played or remember those.

There is no asian-grind to Smash Bros... what the hell are you talking about? The content is very quickly accessible, especially on lower difficulties.

That wasn't a response to what you specifically said. Learn to read.

[Baklavah]

Originally posted by Leeric:

I see we got a bunch of people with terrible reading skills.

In smash bros you needed to complete a lot of stuff to access additonal chracters. Aka content locks.

Originally posted by domi_nique:

If you need to match some stupid requirements to unlock the stuff like in Bojack's case, then yes.


It's not about having to unlock stuff or not. It's about the requirements.

- Need to complete a quest to get move or clothing piece X? Fine.
- Need to do A, B, C, D and E, even though everything except A is boring crap? Not fine.
- Need to do the same boring, 8+ minutes long, quest 15 times over and over again and get only duplicates instead of that one outfit piece that is missing thanks to randomness? Not fine.

Games with these mechanics can never be called "good".

Aside from the TP medal system plenty of "good games" have a similar system.

Originally posted by Baklavah:

There is no asian-grind to Smash Bros... what the hell are you talking about? The content is very quickly accessible, especially on lower difficulties.

That wasn't a response to what you specifically said. Learn to read.

Wow, someone's on a pedestal today. Get off your high horse. You aren't even remotely intimidating. "Learn to read" he says... you said something about smash bros, and I commented on it. Who the $&#@ cares if it wasn't a response to what I specifically said?