Substance Painter 2

Substance Painter 2

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CrescentMoon 2017 年 6 月 22 日 上午 7:39
SP Steam vs officiall allegorithmic shop
Hi there!

Can somebody help me clear the differences of the Substance Painter versions.

Here is a post from the SP developer:
2) Purchase perpetual licenses

You can purchase a perpetual license of the software for $149. This includes 12 months of maintenance/new builds if you purchase it on the website.
If you purchase it on Steam, it will give you new builds up to September 30, 2017.
Once your maintenance is over, you can at any moment purchase a new maintenance of 12 months for $75 per software to get all the new builds.

If I'm getting it right:
- if I'm purchasing the perpetual licens from Steam I'm getting the SP 2 version for 168 € and I have to repurchase the license from October for 12 months for 75 € ,If I wish.
- SP form tha allegorithmic shop costs 149 $ and it gives me 12 months licens that can be upgradable with 75 $ for 12 months.

Ca somebody clear me out on what is the difference of the two options...

Thanks in advance!
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Ivan Xyev 2017 年 6 月 22 日 上午 7:58 
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nicolas.liatti  [開發人員] 2017 年 6 月 22 日 上午 9:03 
Hi,


Here is how it will work:
- if you purchase on Steam, you get Substance Painter 2 with updates up to September 30. Steam does not allow to make a "maintenance" depending on the purchase date.

- in October 2017, if you contact us we will give you a stand alone license with a maintenance depending on your purchase date: you would thus get the same rights than if you purchase on the website.


Cheers,
最後修改者:nicolas.liatti; 2017 年 6 月 22 日 上午 9:09
CrescentMoon 2017 年 6 月 22 日 上午 9:12 
引用自 nicolas.liatti
Hi,


You are exactly right about the differences.


Cheers,

Hi again!

Can you clarify the price difference from the two shops 168 € to 149 $.
Does the steam price include a "steam tax" or seomething? I don't get the price difference.

Thanks again and have a nice day!

nicolas.liatti  [開發人員] 2017 年 6 月 22 日 上午 9:19 
引用自 CrescentMoon
引用自 nicolas.liatti
Hi,


You are exactly right about the differences.


Cheers,

Hi again!

Can you clarify the price difference from the two shops 168 € to 149 $.
Does the steam price include a "steam tax" or seomething? I don't get the price difference.

Thanks again and have a nice day!


The price is $149 on our website, on top of what you will need to add the VAT when you are going to pay (depending on your country).

I believe that Steam already includes the VAT in the price.
CrescentMoon 2017 年 6 月 22 日 上午 9:54 
Thanks for the clarification. That makes more sense now.

And thanks again for your time!
Apos 2017 年 6 月 22 日 下午 12:14 
Hello,

I've got a question about purchase. Do I get VAT invoice if I buy it from Steam?
nicolas.liatti  [開發人員] 2017 年 6 月 22 日 下午 12:41 
引用自 Apos
Hello,

I've got a question about purchase. Do I get VAT invoice if I buy it from Steam?


I think Steam offers an option to get it, but I can't confirm at 100%.
Nota 2017 年 6 月 22 日 下午 3:17 
If bought from Steam will SD/SP/Indie license convert into a 2017 numberless version. Or will they have to be purchased additionally?

I own both SD and SP versions and until yesterday was renting a Live subscription, but I cancelled because none of this makes any sense to me.

It seems to me that there is ZERO (0) reason to buy Substance 6/ Substance Painter 2 when the rent to own 2017 subscription is cheaper and you get the newest version now.


Q: What is the least expensive way to /own/ a 2017 Substance Painter & 2017 Substance Designer license ?
最後修改者:Nota; 2017 年 6 月 22 日 下午 3:39
nicolas.liatti  [開發人員] 2017 年 6 月 22 日 下午 4:10 
引用自 Porter
If bought from Steam will SD/SP/Indie license convert into a 2017 numberless version. Or will they have to be purchased additionally?

I own both SD and SP versions and until yesterday was renting a Live subscription, but I cancelled because none of this makes any sense to me.

It seems to me that there is ZERO (0) reason to buy Substance 6/ Substance Painter 2 when the rent to own 2017 subscription is cheaper and you get the newest version now.


Q: What is the least expensive way to /own/ a 2017 Substance Painter & 2017 Substance Designer license ?


Substance Painter is already 2017.1 version on Steam.
Updates will go on in Substance Painter 2 up to September 30, 2017.



Regarding your last question, if you don't have any license the cheapest way is clearly with the monthly payment.
Nota 2017 年 6 月 22 日 下午 4:34 
I own Steam Substance Designer 6 and Painter 1.

引用自 nicolas.liatti

Substance Painter is already 2017.1 version on Steam.

Updates will go on in Substance Painter 2 up to September 30, 2017.

This whole naming convention has me confused. Substance Painter 2 /is/ 2017.1?
If Substance Painter is already 2017.1, then current Steam owners of SP2 (aka 2017.1) have support up until Sep. 30 2017. Okay. I think I get it now.


引用自 nicolas.liatti
Regarding your last question, if you don't have any license the cheapest way is clearly with the monthly payment.

I currently own Substance Painter 1 (original). I still need to aquire substance Painter 2017.
I also own Substance Designer 6, which isn't 2017 yet, right? Obviously I want 2017 for both, but I still don't know the best approach.

[Honestly, both versions should have been renamed at the same time BEFORE the switch-over]
I contacted support yesterday about this and have yet to receive any help.
最後修改者:Nota; 2017 年 6 月 22 日 下午 4:35
nicolas.liatti  [開發人員] 2017 年 6 月 22 日 下午 4:37 
引用自 Porter
I own Steam Substance Designer 6 and Painter 1.

引用自 nicolas.liatti

Substance Painter is already 2017.1 version on Steam.

Updates will go on in Substance Painter 2 up to September 30, 2017.

This whole naming convention has me confused. Substance Painter 2 /is/ 2017.1?
If Substance Painter is already 2017.1, then current Steam owners of SP2 (aka 2017.1) have support up until Sep. 30 2017. Okay. I think I get it now.


引用自 nicolas.liatti
Regarding your last question, if you don't have any license the cheapest way is clearly with the monthly payment.

I currently own Substance Painter 1 (original). I still need to aquire substance Painter 2017.
I also own Substance Designer 6, which isn't 2017 yet, right? Obviously I want 2017 for both, but I still don't know the best approach.

[Honestly, both versions should have been renamed at the same time BEFORE the switch-over]


Substance Designer 6 is going to become "Substance Designer" (2017.x builds) next week. You will have updates up to June 30, 2018.

So in your case, you have 2 options:

- either go with the subscription for $9.95/m during 6 months, then $19.90 per month
- or upgrade to Substance Painter with 12 months maintenance for $75

For both of those cases, contact us at contact@allegorithmic.com so we can help you achieve this.
Nota 2017 年 6 月 22 日 下午 4:56 
I'll pick it up with support when they respond.
I'm still not clear on the perpetual licenses that will be available if I went the Live subscription route for X number of consecutive months. Thank you for clearing this up some. This software IS amazing!
nicolas.liatti  [開發人員] 2017 年 6 月 22 日 下午 5:12 
引用自 Porter
I'll pick it up with support when they respond.
I'm still not clear on the perpetual licenses that will be available if I went the Live subscription route for X number of consecutive months. Thank you for clearing this up some. This software IS amazing!


We usually answer in 24 hours on the support.
If you are subscribed for 12 months at least, when you cancel you have the possibility to get a license of all the software for $49. You would thus get a perpetual license of Substance Designer and Substance Painter, working will all the builds released previously. There is no maintenance though, so it won't work with the builds released after that date.
Mochi 2017 年 6 月 24 日 下午 2:49 
引用自 nicolas.liatti
Hi,


Here is how it will work:
- if you purchase on Steam, you get Substance Painter 2 with updates up to September 30. Steam does not allow to make a "maintenance" depending on the purchase date.

- in October 2017, if you contact us we will give you a stand alone license with a maintenance depending on your purchase date: you would thus get the same rights than if you purchase on the website.


Cheers,

Hi Nicolas, I'd also like to get some clarification on this, since I'm still a bit confused by the new versionless updates of both Painter and Designer.

Regardless of where I purchase the software - whether it is on Steam or the Allegorithmic site - I need to know what exactly will happen regarding our licenses and updates after September 30th if we purchased now? I've been seeing some conflicting information regarding this, so I'd like to get it straightened out before I purchase. On the Allegorithmicsite, it mentions that Substance Painter specifically will only be receiving updates until September 2017, which means only about 3 months more of support before transitioning to the "versionless" software model. What's more, there's no mention of what is happening with Substance B2M (which comes with the Substance Pack.) Since each piece of software is supposed to receive 12 months of support, this is something I'd like to make sure that I would receive for all of the software.

I saw that you mentioned though that people who buy the Substance Software on Steam should contact you by email in October, and their license will get transferred to a stand-alone license with a maintenance plan - essentially allowing the purchaser to receive the rest of the updates they were supposed to receive (example: if I purchased today from Steam or on your site, I would still receive the newer "version-less" stand-alone software in October as well as updates for that until June 24rd, 2018). I wanted to ensure that this information was correct before moving ahead with a purchase, because this really is excellent software and I'm eager to buy a pack if I can get my concerns clarified.
Jerc  [開發人員] 2017 年 6 月 24 日 下午 4:55 
@Necorama Your last paragraph is correct, you will receive 12 months of updates starting on your date of purchase on Steam. That includes SD, SP and B2M if you purchase the Indie pack.
最後修改者:Jerc; 2017 年 6 月 24 日 下午 4:56
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