Starbase
PureFingMagic 2020년 8월 29일 오후 8시 13분
this or dual universe?
Alright this game looks sweet but dual universe is out now. Is it worth waiting for starbase?
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Power 2020년 12월 4일 오전 9시 18분 
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Marku$님이 먼저 게시:
Hellion ? :shuttle1:
Hellion was a stillbirth. Devs now finally cut they loses and bailed out. As it was expected.

DU wont do better. At no time they can pull of the amount of concurrent players with their feature set properly synced over a network.

Pretty much the same goes for Starbase. No matter what level of staged PR fights they show us. Once clutter starts to accumulate connection latencies will crash down on performance like Thors Hammer. Simple basics of math and physics.
Actually it runs quite well and I'm surprised by what their servers can handle. It only lags in LUA heavy areas and only if you have a weak CPU.
Royal 2020년 12월 4일 오전 9시 23분 
Power님이 먼저 게시:
GG Capt. Ronnie님이 먼저 게시:
I looked into Dual universe and as much as it looking awesome, it looks swamped with issues at the moment like players not able to login or gain access at all to the game. If theyre smart they are ironing out there big issues before releasing it on early access as alot of steam players are very critical of a EA game regardless of disclaimers "There will be problems and bugs".
Message from the future. Dual Universe is currently Awesome and getting better all the time.

put me off after they changed direction of monetisation from one off payment to one off payment AND per month. Unsure if they are still going down that road but you end up paying them to test their own damn game and then paying them again per month when it releases lol
Mr. Extinct 2020년 12월 7일 오후 12시 02분 
BD님이 먼저 게시:
Alright this game looks sweet but dual universe is out now. Is it worth waiting for starbase?

This ofc :papyrus:
XxSTOZZYxX 2021년 1월 5일 오전 6시 01분 
Krampus the Gingerbread Man님이 먼저 게시:
Power님이 먼저 게시:
Message from the future. Dual Universe is currently Awesome and getting better all the time.

put me off after they changed direction of monetisation from one off payment to one off payment AND per month. Unsure if they are still going down that road but you end up paying them to test their own damn game and then paying them again per month when it releases lol

Yea that specifically left a bad taste in my mouth. Big boy backer cause I loved the concept, early alpha was promising, then it seemed to barely improve over time, then the alpha subs? I'm fully expecting cash grab vaporware at this point.

Starbase looks promising... just a cleaner Empyrion, imo, which is fine with me. Between this and ED: Space Legs Edition, think i'm set.

...so if y'all could go ahead and release me some Starbase that'd be greeeeeeat.
Royal 2021년 1월 5일 오전 8시 42분 
XxSTOZZYxX님이 먼저 게시:
Krampus the Gingerbread Man님이 먼저 게시:

put me off after they changed direction of monetisation from one off payment to one off payment AND per month. Unsure if they are still going down that road but you end up paying them to test their own damn game and then paying them again per month when it releases lol

Yea that specifically left a bad taste in my mouth. Big boy backer cause I loved the concept, early alpha was promising, then it seemed to barely improve over time, then the alpha subs? I'm fully expecting cash grab vaporware at this point.

Starbase looks promising... just a cleaner Empyrion, imo, which is fine with me. Between this and ED: Space Legs Edition, think i'm set.

...so if y'all could go ahead and release me some Starbase that'd be greeeeeeat.

I remember going to the DU website thinking hmm i might buy a pack today if I can get in, saw sub time and just laughed, you want £70 for me to test your game and I get 2 months of sub time when the game comes out after doing a QA job for you on it? no thanks.
Ex 2021년 1월 9일 오후 4시 11분 
So having played both, DU has 'factories' currently, planet mining with terrain deformation tool. You spend points to level skills to increase mining speed and crafting speed/efficiency/profitability. These are ONLY learned by setting them up like in EVE, afk time-gated skills. Balancing the weight on your ship is important but Starbase is definitely more in depth with ship engineering. Starbase factories look a lot more fun to work with when they're out.

DU allows interplanetary warping, planet-mining, atmospheric flight/gravity, factories. (Overall lacks content for me).

Starbase is asteroid mining currently, in depth ship building/tweaking. You can also get steady progression as bigger ship = more asteroid cargo you can haul. Requires more engines, power, cooling, lasers, collectors, potentially yolol code to make life easier. Can make Stations and if it was in EA I would likely be working with my company to build one.

To be fair both games lack content currently at their current stages that would make me play them religiously like some other games I've played it the past. DU seems to have fairly slow content updates compared to SB (plus the monthly sub has put a lot of people off). I was a backer of DU and essentially just have my skills training, if skill xp was based (at least in part) by actual actions like ship building, mining and crafting I would likely spend more time. But I can just queue up a year of skills and come back when they add more content, while being able to make profit crafting anything.

For me I spent more time in Starbase writing scripts, reinforcing my ship and setting up forms of automated laser mining patterns. Plus each time you come back with ore you can work on creating a bigger ship to haul more material back. Ship building is also easier aesthetic wise, more in depth and somewhat more difficult setting all the components up to run efficiently, potentially tweaking your control settings to change speed and level speeds. You can also make towing ships, cargo-locked holds, or just asteroid haulers. You have more freedom in ship designing and features, plus you wont pull your hair out trying to make smooth designs with voxels from hell like in DU.

I'm excited for EA as you will have a lot more active player base to group with and things like collectively working to build a station and haul parts seems pretty enjoyable.
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MrBrewed 2021년 1월 10일 오후 5시 58분 
I just bought dual universe, im bored as hell. I would do anything to get access to this game here.
Doofy 2021년 1월 10일 오후 10시 15분 
MrBrewed님이 먼저 게시:
I just bought dual universe, im bored as hell. I would do anything to get access to this game here.

Same haha. I didn't expect dual universe to basically just be eve but with a voxel tool.
Asmodeos 2021년 1월 13일 오후 11시 27분 
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MrBrewed님이 먼저 게시:
I just bought dual universe, im bored as hell. I would do anything to get access to this game here.

Same haha. I didn't expect dual universe to basically just be eve but with a voxel tool.

DU is not bad but not so good like Starbase i think.
OldNox 2021년 1월 24일 오후 5시 16분 
4 hours to make a small box in DU every tiny component without perks to speed it up can be any where 1-5 min to craft,, mining is on a global que,, someone other side planet spamming his mining drill your mining exp is gonna be crap.. du is not worth it right now give it nother few years
radkid10 2021년 1월 27일 오전 1시 25분 
I don't recommend dual Universe cuz the company currently running that game makes it nearly impossible for you to unsubscribe if you if you wind up hating the game it's nearly impossible to prevent them from billing you again
PureFingMagic 2021년 1월 27일 오전 7시 58분 
radkid10님이 먼저 게시:
I don't recommend dual Universe cuz the company currently running that game makes it nearly impossible for you to unsubscribe if you if you wind up hating the game it's nearly impossible to prevent them from billing you again
Actually so true tbh its kinda dumb
That1Dude 2021년 2월 2일 오전 5시 56분 
While I haven't tested Starbase yet, I have played during a few Dual Universe alpha testings, and I'd say it depends on your play style. DU is very difficult to get started on and takes a LOT of grinding of mats. It is very tedious and repetitive for just tier one crafts. If you're into that, cool, but I don't want 85% mining tunnels and only 15% of actual game play.

From everything I've seen of Starbase, it seems more like Space Engineers. By that, I mean that it seems like a good balance of grab some mats, build a ship and go. If you want a bigger ship, get some more mats, and go. It seems like you can have a barebones ship in just a couple hours. This is more of what I look for. I like to grind, but I hate feeling like that is all I'm doing.
Vaupell 2021년 2월 8일 오전 12시 18분 
Well DU is out :p and came out when promised, but it is a ♥♥♥♥ game.

I like this game sofar, but i have also been lied to sofar, meaning i do not trust the developers.
Explicable 2021년 2월 9일 오전 12시 38분 
I backed DU, its garbage imo. A game people only play if they are obsessed with the idea, not because its actually good. Its choppy and the UI sucks, the tutorial sucks, the graphics are hideous.
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