is there an up to date "safe to vial" guide?

[.VM8RA]

been looking for a "safe to vial" guide. I found a spreadsheet, but it has the 2 most recent expansions missing from it, so syrely is bad advice given that any card can be given new life if it gains some synergy bonus from newer cards that are released.

I understand that the new expansion is very new, and that there probably hasn't been time to analyse all the cards, but then surely we should at least have the star forged legends cards dialed by now.

If anyone can point me in the direction of some relevant info, it would be appreciated.

thanks

[Rin 凛]

if you familiar with the meta, you will know which card is useless, and just dust any card you dont ever play

[.VM8RA]

Publicado originalmente por PάиDá_𐌀ddїctёD:

if you familiar with the meta, you will know which card is useless, and just dust any card you dont ever play

only started playing this game a few days ago, so not really sure yet.

[Afropanda202]

Publicado originalmente por VM8RA:

Publicado originalmente por PάиDá_𐌀ddїctёD:

if you familiar with the meta, you will know which card is useless, and just dust any card you dont ever play

only started playing this game a few days ago, so not really sure yet.

same, just started today, and i got a couple of legendaries out of the free packs, i dunno if i should keep em, or dust em

[rcuajunco]

the general rule on legendary is you should never dust them, because you end up creating them again later when the meta changes. But if you can't wait like most people when a new set comes out wait one week till the meta has been established dust everything not related to the meta deck, then use the meta deck to grind score so you can earn more packs from score and lvling the faction that is the new meta faction to lvl 150.

[Faolchu]

Or just focus on one class, maybe two that you like to play and you'll have an overall good deck. After a while you can expand anyway. I only play runecraft, bloodcraft and now recently portalcraft. Go to what you prefer so you will have fun playing while tinkering your deck. After 166 hours i have 3 full decks atm and 20k vials. Saving those for the next expansion.

[BOWSER]

If you aren't going to spend money, you need to pick a class and make a solid deck by reasearching which cards you need or else you'll be holding those cards for a really long time with no good decks. They don't make it easy and ranked matches will crush you without a good deck. increasing in difficulty as you go higher.

Most popular card games have websites with decks that you can build. I personally use https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/all-decks. I will give you some examples. This website will present you with Deck Archetypes.

One of these Archetypes is called Aegis Havencraft which means it revolves around building a deck that uses the Legendary follower card, Heavenly Aegis, as the final blow if your opponent isn't already dead.

Another Archetype is called Seraph Havencraft, which uses the Legendary amulet card, Enstatued Seraph, as your game winning move.

The focus of each Archetype varies and some aren't even Legendaries at all, like Elena Havencraft, which is a Gold amulet card that stays on the board forever once you play it, unless your opponent has a card to remove it.

All of the Archetypes revolve around a certain card that is the main focus and all other cards assist and support that card or keep you alive until you win. As you look through all the Archetypes in each class, you will recognize this pattern. If you notice a Legendary that none of the decks use, you should liquify it because it's probably not viable in any competitive build.

Before you start building a deck, play all the classes against AI with the generic prebuilt decks and get a general feel for each class. Then pick a class and a deck. It's kind of risky because there's no going back once you liquify, but if you want to constantly win and get to the highest ranks without paying money, you don't have a choice.

[Brave Sir Robin]

100% safe to vial legendaries at this point:

Forest - Rose Queen, Fairy Princess (the Standard set one, not the new one), Fairy Dragon, Deepwood Anomaly

Sword - Aurelia, Tsubaki Otohime, Alexander

Rune - Merlin (not even dshift runs her anymore), Erasmus, Mythril Golem, Pascale

Dragon - Zirnitra (again, the Standard set one not the new one), Fafnir, Dragonsong Flute, Python

Shadow - Pluto, Lord of the Flies, Mail of Obliteration

Blood - Beast Dom, Queen Vampire, Soul Dealer

Haven - Jeanne (once again, only the Standard set one), Skullfane, Eidolon of Madness, Lion of the Golden City

Neutral - Gabriel

Maybe someone will disagree, but none of the cards I listed see play anymore in any format. Many were never played, while some have just been powercreeped so hard there's no reason to keep them (ie Tsubaki and Queen Vampire). There are some others than are probably safe (Jabberwock, Wyrm God, etc.) but could have some value as better cards rotate out or new cards combo with them.

[Afropanda202]

Publicado originalmente por LBG:

100% safe to vial legendaries at this point:

Forest - Rose Queen, Fairy Princess (the Standard set one, not the new one), Fairy Dragon, Deepwood Anomaly

Sword - Aurelia, Tsubaki Otohime, Alexander

Rune - Merlin (not even dshift runs her anymore), Erasmus, Mythril Golem, Pascale

Dragon - Zirnitra (again, the Standard set one not the new one), Fafnir, Dragonsong Flute, Python

Shadow - Pluto, Lord of the Flies, Mail of Obliteration

Blood - Beast Dom, Queen Vampire, Soul Dealer

Haven - Jeanne (once again, only the Standard set one), Skullfane, Eidolon of Madness, Lion of the Golden City

Neutral - Gabriel

Maybe someone will disagree, but none of the cards I listed see play anymore in any format. Many were never played, while some have just been powercreeped so hard there's no reason to keep them (ie Tsubaki and Queen Vampire). There are some others than are probably safe (Jabberwock, Wyrm God, etc.) but could have some value as better cards rotate out or new cards combo with them.

animated legendaries? vial or nah?

[Brave Sir Robin]

Your call on animated golds and legends. You will quite likely never get one again unless you burn 30k vials on a globe or get one from Master's rewards; but if the card is unplayable trash it's 2500 vials you could use on something useful.

[Icku]

I have a question on my own. I also just started and I would like to know how to spend the starting gold. Let's say I want to make a necromancy rotation deck. Should I buy packs from the expansion with the most expensive cards I need (and pray to rngjesus) and craft the cheaper ones? Aim for the cheaper ones and craft the more expensive ones? Or just buy the packs from the newest one and craft everything else.

[Brave Sir Robin]

If you want to play rotation I'd avoid buying the set that's going to rotate out next (RoB), and just craft whatever you need from it. I'd suggest buying packs for whatever set has the most core cards you need from classes you want to play, and craft from there. Never count on pulling a specific gold or legendary, I opened around ~150 CG packs total and got 0 Forest legends for instance.

For rotation reanimate shadow I'd focus on ToG and CG packs. You can also use the one-time 600 crystal purchase to get a Set 2 Shadow prebuilt, which has almost everything you'd want to get started with rotation Shadow.

[.VM8RA]

Publicado originalmente por Afropanda202:

Publicado originalmente por LBG:

100% safe to vial legendaries at this point:

Forest - Rose Queen, Fairy Princess (the Standard set one, not the new one), Fairy Dragon, Deepwood Anomaly

Sword - Aurelia, Tsubaki Otohime, Alexander

Rune - Merlin (not even dshift runs her anymore), Erasmus, Mythril Golem, Pascale

Dragon - Zirnitra (again, the Standard set one not the new one), Fafnir, Dragonsong Flute, Python

Shadow - Pluto, Lord of the Flies, Mail of Obliteration

Blood - Beast Dom, Queen Vampire, Soul Dealer

Haven - Jeanne (once again, only the Standard set one), Skullfane, Eidolon of Madness, Lion of the Golden City

Neutral - Gabriel

Maybe someone will disagree, but none of the cards I listed see play anymore in any format. Many were never played, while some have just been powercreeped so hard there's no reason to keep them (ie Tsubaki and Queen Vampire). There are some others than are probably safe (Jabberwock, Wyrm God, etc.) but could have some value as better cards rotate out or new cards combo with them.

animated legendaries? vial or nah?

I vialed all my animated ones. I don't care about that and it's a lot of vials.