Looks like an illegal ripoff of Hearthstone

[Aurjay]

I'm no Hearthstone fanboy by any means. I dont care for the game at all, but I can see why others are into it.

With that said, this looks too much like Hearthstone to not make me question if this is even legal. Yes, I seen in the video you added the little story chatting stuff, okay okay. But the board design, the player's character design, the card designs with the attack and health...it looks like you copied another game and pasted different artwork on it. Developers who do this piss me off. Be original, and do not steal other people's work. Or if you are going to improve on a game's idea that is already released, make your game stand out as different.

Best of luck to you when Blizzard Entertainment sees this though. I'm 95% certain you will get sued. Not a wishful thinking, just know how they work, and I actually support them for it.

[Aurjay]

Sir Fluffykins님이 먼저 게시:

Divinion (Aurjay)님이 먼저 게시:

Thankfully, at least a few people have let me know they get what I was saying, and understand that I'm not saying the game should be banned, as they put it.

I'm confused now, I just wrote up how Shadowverse is not a copy and listed things and you made two replies; 1 repeating your original statement that it's a blatant copy and saying people having insulted you and 1 saying "I" get what you're saying?

I can't tell if you're just ignoring what people have typed, or trying to say something I'm not getting through the language barrier.

You should be confused if you believe I said it is a copy, because I have not ONCE said it is a copy. THAT'S a big problem in this read. People change my words to say what they want it them to so they can argue with me. I said the similarities between the games are NOT staples of the genre but that of what is owned by Blizzard. Enough so that if Blizzard ever did want to, they could sue, and would win, without a doubt. It's not a question, that is fact. Blizzard choosing not to at this time, or ever, is not a the discussion (just filling you in on a lot of other things that has been discussed as well, to prevent it from being brought up again.) The whole topic is based on the FACT that Blizzard COULD sue, and if they did, they would win.

I am not saying this game is a clone and being a fool saying that just because there are similar features that are found in every single card game, which is what makes them card games, no.

I have no ignoring anyone's comments. In fact I have thoroughly explained things to everyone, I believe. If I missed anyone, I am sorry.

And the "language barrier" I am not sure. If you understand English as your first language, then you should not have a hard time reading the words as they are written and not reading words that are not there. (sorry but you deserved that insult right there, because you got confused by anything I said.)

[Repliku]

I sure hope blizzard sues wizard of the coast. MtG stole the attack and defense, and the board and they even stole the name of some mechanics.

Too bad people can't be like blizzard and not copy other genres. By the way when is Blizzard suing Riot Games and Valve ?

[Aurjay]

SkylXTumn님이 먼저 게시:

Divinion (Aurjay)님이 먼저 게시:

Basically, if you took the UI borders of SV, and just put the card artwork of HS inside of them instead. People would play the game and would be non the wiser. That's an issue to the point where Blizzard COULD, I can't stress that enough, COULD not WILL!, sue them. And if they ever did do that, Blizzard would win without a doubt.

Everyone wants to assume I'm a fanboy out to piss people off, when in reality I'm speaking facts, then top it off with ending remarks of an opinion about the lack of creativity of the developers to make ever so slight alterations that could make the game be easily distinguishable at first glance.

That is all. And well also verbally slapping around the trolls who think they can phase me by calling me underage, dumb, or whatever other grade school insults they can throw out in forums, with intelligent remarks. Gotta do better than that against someone who has been an online gamer since 1996 in MUDDs on AOL Games. (not directed to all, but the few who know who they are.)

But it won't, and that's what everyone is trying to tell you... especially the 2 posts above your this post. The games play very differently and you have pretty much a different mindset when playing both. Hearthstone and Shadowverse skills don't transfer to each other 1:1.

Doing what you said would be akin to skinning League of Legends as DotA 2, or DotA 2 as League of Legends. You play both games differently, or well, you should, if you want to win. If you were to remake DotA 2 completely using just League of Legends assets, would a player be able to recognize they were playing DotA 2 instead of League of Legends? Of course they would, yes? They share common core mechanics, and that's where it generally ends.

It's the same here. There are very obvious differences between the two games. Mechanics present in one that are absent in another, such as evolving, amulets etc (detailed in the 2 posts above) make it a very blatantly different game. I would honestly urge you to play Shadowverse for a few hours, and then play Hearthstone once more, and see if you still think the same way.

I'm actually quite sick of ignorant fools who keep trying to say that I'm not understanding what GENRES ARE! READ WHAT I WROTE PEOPLE! I am the one who has been explaining the damn differences. geezus people.

And stop with the MOBA references. This has NOTHING to do with any likeness due to genre of game. It's the likeness of the actual game itself. The visuals of another game.

If someone tried to write a college paper with as much likeness to another's work, as this game has to the likeness of HS, they would get an instant F for plagiarism. If that example helps people understand a bit easier. If you are too young to have knowledge of what plagiarism is, it's copying another's written work. You do not have to copy it in it's entirity to get in trouble for it. And talking about the topic with the same notion as the source for your references does not equate to plagiarism. But taking their exact words, without giving them credit for those words by quoting them, or even using mostly their exact words and changing it ever so slightly (still not using your own words) is considered plagiarism. That's what this game's UI artwork design is like. Changing the design ever so slightly, but it still looks almost exactly the same. Features of the game can be similar, but the visual appearances CANNOT look this much alike.

And for those who want to try throwing MOBA's down my throat again. The map designs are different between all MOBAs, most do use the 3 lane system, but the shape of those 3 lanes,and "jungles", if there is any jungle in the game, are all different. Had they looked exactly the same, they would be in the same trouble, unless getting the legal permission from the developers of the actual map they copied exactly. I truly do not want to hear another comment about MOBAs in this discussion as that will instantly tell me the person didn't take the time to read anything I wrote and is wasting my time.

[Aurjay]

Repliku님이 먼저 게시:

I sure hope blizzard sues wizard of the coast. MtG stole the attack and defense, and the board and they even stole the name of some mechanics.

Too bad people can't be like blizzard and not copy other genres. By the way when is Blizzard suing Riot Games and Valve ?

Troll who doesn't know how to read. Move along child.

Let me edit this to add something else. You are level ZERO on steam. So is this your troll account? Is that why you are set to private and never play any games to level up? Yeah, get the hell outta here.

[Repliku]

I ain't level 0, and by the way, err "not a child hashtag online gamer since 1996", can you tell me where you found the patents and stuff that confirm that blizzard owns and invented whatever they should be suing people about ?

I just wonder, because you sound really secure about what you say despite linking to absolutely no source.

[Mochasky]

So you finally admitted it. The thing that jumps at you right out is the UI design and the arrangement of everything in the game.

You think that if Blizzard sues them for this, they will win for sure? You want us to argue over this? I don't know man, it sounds to me like you're trying to tell us that something that hasn't happened will happen for sure (i.e Blizzard WILL win if they sue). I don't know how to argue against this. It's just pure conjecture on your part...

You keep talking about similarities and going in circles about how this game is so similar to HS, and when prompted you keep silent, until now only saying that the surface UI design of the game looks way too similar. And that's all you can say about it, yet give the example of a college paper plagiarizing another, which directly means plagiarizing pure content, which is not the case of HS and SV.

You keep reiterating how Hearthstone and Shadowverse are so damn similar to each other, but all you can say, and have continuously said so far is just UI, placements and core mechanics. If you want to give a statement of college papers with plagiarism, you sure as hell better play both games first, before you point out such things. You can't claim that a paper plagiarizes another if it's content is not the same.

But you will likely tell me it's the same and say I'm ignorant again, once more ambiguously just saying they are similar to each other in extreme ways, while only talking about the surface design of the 2 games.

If you think they can and WILL win if they sue them for this surface design, great for you. You can see how many people think otherwise.

I'm out, it's clear that you won't listen to what other people are saying at all, and just continuously ignore and claim everything as perspective, when your whole thread is one huge perspective too, only somehow is a "fact" from... your future-reading skills.

[Ayaka]

People seem to really not get the difference between iteration, building upon a concept, and outright ripping off without any type of innovation. Yes, this game does borrow some concepts from Hearthstone, but that doesn't mean they've copied it whole cloth.

[Azardflip]

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/making-magic/twenty-years-twenty-lessons-part-1-2016-05-30

Psychology can help understanding why such similarities between games occur. Now is it similar enough for Cygames to be sued? I'm no lawyer but if it was, well it would be ongoing already.

OP: In 2016, it is very hard to believe that someone taking so much time argueing isn't a troll. Any sane person looking for a real discussion, I believe, wouldn't have chosen this media (steam) and would have given up way before it came full circle... for the 10th time.

[Sir Fluffykins]

Writes in a jumbled way, so I think English isn't his main language, says I deserve to be insulted for not understanding English, while still writing in incorrect sentence structure.

:/

I'm sorry you feel this is such a Hearthstone rip-off, but I'm afraid you're trying to make a point that just isn't there.

[Ghost👻]

just stop

[Hskw]

If you think its a rip off of somthing everything is a rip off from somthing. Sorry but your thread makes no sense. Every dungeon crawler, every fps, every RPG game all of them rip off from somthing if this is your thought process.

If I use your logic I might as well say all FPS is a rip off, they just replace 3D models on the chracthers but they all DO THE SAME THING. Shoot to kill the end. Maybe adding a few twist here and there.

In my words I think it is more of a game that is inspired by somthing else not a rip off. Of couse there are blatant rip offs but I dont see anything wrong here.

And nahh they wont be sued this game is on the appstore for quite some time. It was orginally released for mobile

[idk]

Divinion (Aurjay)님이 먼저 게시:

You should be confused if you believe I said it is a copy, because I have not ONCE said it is a copy. THAT'S a big problem in this read. People change my words to say what they want it them to so they can argue with me. I said the similarities between the games are NOT staples of the genre but that of what is owned by Blizzard. Enough so that if Blizzard ever did want to, they could sue, and would win, without a doubt. It's not a question, that is fact. Blizzard choosing not to at this time, or ever, is not a the discussion (just filling you in on a lot of other things that has been discussed as well, to prevent it from being brought up again.) The whole topic is based on the FACT that Blizzard COULD sue, and if they did, they would win.

I am not saying this game is a clone and being a fool saying that just because there are similar features that are found in every single card game, which is what makes them card games, no

I agree with you. Blizzard owns the entire TCG genre, they even own Solitaire. Hell, they own EVERY genre actually (just look at that Paladins copy-off that came out not too long ago). This game is a rip-off and I'm not saying it's a copy, it's a rip-off which is like a copy but not a copy. This is completely illegal and they should be punished for their horrible actions, copy-ripping another game isn't cool at all.

[Sharknado]

This is an extremely poor attempt at trolling. You see, you should bait people into arguing with each other, not argue with them yourself.