WTF?

[Follery]

30 card pack, 0 legendary cards... WTF! HOW!

Very bad luck.

[Complete Domination]

Depsyy님이 먼저 게시:

This game and its meta is hardly gonna convince anyone who is F2P to pay for card packs.

They won't convince you to pay for card packs - they never have to. Their business model has always been friendly to F2P players. Contrary to stingystone,you can quickly assemble a meta deck in this game even if you play casually and cygames just keep giving. Just now you can get a legendary pack that guarantees legendary pull just by playing through story mode. Plenty of players choose to pay because unlike with certain greedy company in the west, they agree that good will deserves good will.

[Der Rabattrammler]

SinWolk님이 먼저 게시:

HS gives you only 5 cards per pack, where shadowvere 8 and it cost 50% less compared to HS. Stop being entitle people, enjoy what are you getting.
I personally had enough to open 140 free packs.
Good luck getting that in HS.

Your argument is very flawed, my friend
Sure, in SV you get 3 additional cards per pack and overall get more free packs, I'll admit that.
BUT in SV you need THREE copies of every wanted card for your deck and that INCLUDES Legendaries!
In HS you are set with only one copy of a legendary card and all the other cards only need two copies for a complete deck.
Funny how you forgot to mention that

All in all, especially considering the tripled costs for legendaries due to more copies needed, building top tier decks in SV is MUCH more expensive in relation to HS.
HS needs about 10k arcane dust for that, while SV reportedly needs about 30k - 40k vials.
And you don't get so much more vials in SV than arcane dust in HS to compensate that increased cost.

SinWolk님이 먼저 게시:

And i love special snowflakes who think world spins around them. Hhahahah.

I love how people who are not able to participate meaningfully in a discussion just slam out stupid generalisations and insults, mostly in the form of shallow one-liners saying nothing.
Just troll trash I guess... you must be a special snowflake in your perfect snowflake world where SV is a perfect game and just beyond reproach.
Damn, I just can't refrain from feeding trolls, bad habit

[Der Rabattrammler]

BTT:
I am almost sorry to post this seeing how unlucky the OP got with his packs, but I have just opened all my free Omen of the Ten card packs and my drop rate is still great so far.
Got whopping four legendaries out of 17 packs and one of them even was a premium leggie

That still does not revoke anything I have said before about SV desperately needing a pity timer aka a pack limit for a legendary drop to protect customers from extreme bad luck frustration and possibly money loss.
Just because I am still lucky with my drop rate (maybe because I am still a new player and still have a pretty small collection) does not mean that people like the OP or the other OP from another thread (one legendary out of 50 card packs, holey moley) should not be protected from those very rare bad luck streaks.
That is just disrespectful and unfair towards your customers.

[SinWolk]

King Keef님이 먼저 게시:

SinWolk님이 먼저 게시:

HS gives you only 5 cards per pack, where shadowvere 8 and it cost 50% less compared to HS. Stop being entitle people, enjoy what are you getting.
I personally had enough to open 140 free packs.
Good luck getting that in HS.

Your argument is very flawed, my friend :emofdr:
Sure, in SV you get 3 additional cards per pack and overall get more free packs, I'll admit that.
BUT in SV you need THREE copies of every wanted card for your deck and that INCLUDES Legendaries!
In HS you are set with only one copy of a legendary card and all the other cards only need two copies for a complete deck.
Funny how you forgot to mention that :grin:

All in all, especially considering the tripled costs for legendaries due to more copies needed, building top tier decks in SV is MUCH more expensive in relation to HS.
HS needs about 10k arcane dust for that, while SV reportedly needs about 30k - 40k vials.
And you don't get so much more vials in SV than arcane dust in HS to compensate that increased cost.

I'm sorry but thats just smokes and mirrors what you just said. I know some people don't have enough time to do research on topics they want to talk before they do but speculations just makes pointless discussion. So lets talk about HS vs SV cost.

In HS average dust amount per pack is 102.71
In SV average vial amount per pack is 471.38

Let's compare popular meta deck cost in both games.

Token Druid - 7680
Deathrattle Hunter - 10940
Tempo mage - 6700
Odd Paladin - 5980
Control Priest - 8280
Odd Rogue - 7960
Even Shaman - 10900
Zoo Warlock - 4800
Even Warlock - 7720
Odd Warrior - 11680
Average cost of deck: 8264

Disdain Dragon - 46260
Darkfeast bat Blood - 36500
Midrange Sword - 59900
Gchimera Rune - 25700
Mysteria Rune - 20450
Lishennas puppet Portal - 28550
Artifact Portal: 21200
Arcus Shadow - 59150
Tenko Heaven - 60650
Aggro Forest - 36800
Average cost of deck: 39516

SV decks cost 4.78 more than HS decks, but SV gives you 4.71 crafting materials more than HS. So its clear decks in HS and SV cost the same amount of card packs.

So no @King Keef your argument is very flawed, my friend :(

Why SV is cheaper game compared to HS.

For F2P users you get ~150 gold in both HS and SV, but in HS you need to win 30 games on daily basis where in SV you only need to win 8-12 games to finish all daily quests. So in HS you spend 3 times more to get same rewards as in SV. It was never a question what game is more f2p friendly.

As for cash shop, if you buy only 1 pack per day everyday SV is 50% cheaper than HS, but if buy unlimited amounts, both cost around the same.

[Slava]

King Keef, I whant to add something as a player who never played HS from GaG (Goblin and Gnoms, if u dont know) since June 2015, never reached legend, havent gold heroes and so on.

If u are new player in HS, means lesser then half a year playing(including arens and brawlers, and dayliks) u need to bought starter pack if new event apeears. And it will be good if u bough it twice or like recent changes were 80 packs deal. This good thing cost pretty much, i dont know how in other countries but in my u need to work half a months or more for it.
U can easely reach GM in SV in one monce if u play it somewhere 10 hours a day and grind whatever u can without paying. U cant reach legend in HS in less then 3 or more months without donate if u are new.

So what i whant to state: PLZ USE YOUR BRAIN BEFORE WRITING STRANGE THINGS.

[Slava]

Needt to add that u will recive more profit from SV dayliks. Packs are way better, cuz u can recieve more free heroes then in HS.
Yes, there arent any brawler wich is sad, it is interesting to fight agains Ragnaros or Nefarian, or play other different way.
Drop rate is greatly better if put up the topic. I get 1 animated legendary in second day of playing, while in HS i recieve it in third year, somewhere 3 weeks ago i recieve second Gold legendary in HS, while having multiply in SV. So, drop rate in SV is better.
There also presents gold fish function (not top deck), but it is also better, MUCH BETTER. If u have played HS u know what i am talking about.
Drawning is the same, i mean very good.
Card voice is also better, cuz cards interact with some other cards, like Raven - Vania, or Order-Chaos valkyrie.
Story mode is also interesting thing, in HS it presents forget that word in both languages, Frozen Throne, Cobolds, and now Boom lab. I think they are also equal.
They need to improve field in SV.
May be i forget something.

[hrooza]

Depsyy님이 먼저 게시:

This game and its meta is hardly gonna convince anyone who is F2P to pay for card packs. Im sorry Cygames I know you are probably trying your best but sometimes its just not enough. There are always going to be people who don't spend money on F2P games and that doesn't give paying players right to attack them on the forums.

im f2p who only vial extra cards and nerfed non animated cards and i would say ppl are so untitled around here (not op he just say some bad luck which is fully fine) and would aggre with (the attacks) from sinfolk and margaret.

i had a lot of times where i go 50 or somethings packs without leggo but whatever i had also times with 4 leggos per 10 packs pretty easily.

compared to many games thats super amazing, way more better then the so called (grunted leggo per X packs) because the drop rate there is garbage compared to here besides vials come like suger and i right now only buy packs looking for leader cards and thats it because i already have tons of decks in unlimited and already some decks in rota without even saving much for new exp.

also for meta decks i build a 20K vial something deck back in the days without even vialing any crafts at all in no time and even created a lot of other decks in short time after and thats without all the events SV have these days you can easily have a t1 deck day 1 and join some gps/chest events and will flood in resorces .
i mean i freaking fight D rank players who know nothing about the game but still have a freaking t1 deck (do many bad mistakes tho) in every gp stage 1 and sometimes stage 2