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Rin 凛 Jan 11, 2018 @ 2:46am
Haven in Rotation
What is your opinion on current Havencraft? I'd been losing nearly every game to summit temple knight, stall until turn 7 and start slamming your face if you dont run ward. Its more broken than midshadow IMO.
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hrooza Jan 11, 2018 @ 7:08am 
its only good if the draw a summit tamble and manage to live tell they play knight 3 times

against ramp dragon their summit and knight will get baha to the face
against rune? they got to deal with daria high roll or get burned to oblivion (they lost their big aoe and most of their heal)
against mid shadow? good luck playing knight without getting eachtared next turn

its a good deck but really no where near broken as the trio
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Kirfhian Jan 11, 2018 @ 8:20am 
you dont need summit temple, just new jeanne and aegis
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Unforgiven Jan 11, 2018 @ 9:22am 
Haven is mediocre atm and not even close to shadow, if shadow goes 1-2-skullring-catacomb u can pretty much surrender
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Bishop Jan 11, 2018 @ 9:26am 
The good thing about haven is that it can deal with anything in this meta. It has aegis and tribunal against dragon, banish and aoe against shadow, heals and taunts against burn rune. The overall value of their cards is also above average. The problem is that is not particluarly good against anything, its just.. there.
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Unforgiven Jan 11, 2018 @ 9:27am 
Originally posted by Bishop:
The good thing about haven is that it can deal with anything in this meta. It has aegis and tribunal against dragon, banish and aoe against shadow, heals and taunts against burn rune. The overall value of their cards is also above average. The problem is that is not particluarly good against anything, its just.. there.

burn rune has 72% winrate against aegis and summit haven, just saying.
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Bishop Jan 11, 2018 @ 9:34am 
Originally posted by Unforgiven:
Originally posted by Bishop:
The good thing about haven is that it can deal with anything in this meta. It has aegis and tribunal against dragon, banish and aoe against shadow, heals and taunts against burn rune. The overall value of their cards is also above average. The problem is that is not particluarly good against anything, its just.. there.

burn rune has 72% winrate against aegis and summit haven, just saying.
Well summit/heavenly knight is not really necessary, its more tech choice/additional wincon than anything, some play version with curators instead that can deal with rune better.
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.VM8RA Jan 11, 2018 @ 10:08am 
haven isn't that good right now. the 3 best decks are ramp dragon (control), mid shaddow and dirt rune (aggro)

dirt rune is the cheapest of the 3 decks to get up and running, but shadow isn't much more, and you can actually get a lot of the cards from the set 2 shadow pre builts. If you buy the pre built 3 times, you will have most of the cards you need, only needing to craft a few more to finish the deck.
Last edited by .VM8RA; Jan 11, 2018 @ 10:09am
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.VM8RA Jan 11, 2018 @ 10:11am 
Originally posted by Bishop:
The good thing about haven is that it can deal with anything in this meta. It has aegis and tribunal against dragon, banish and aoe against shadow, heals and taunts against burn rune. The overall value of their cards is also above average. The problem is that is not particluarly good against anything, its just.. there.

I'm teching in 2 fall from grace for dealing with taunts and big bodies. I'm new to this game, so maybe it's not the best answer to it, but fall from grace seems like a great all round card for dirt rune right now, actually thinking about running 2 as it has helped me so much so far.
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Kirfhian Jan 11, 2018 @ 12:04pm 
Originally posted by VM8RA:
haven isn't that good right now. the 3 best decks are ramp dragon (control), mid shaddow and dirt rune (aggro)

dirt rune is the cheapest of the 3 decks to get up and running, but shadow isn't much more, and you can actually get a lot of the cards from the set 2 shadow pre builts. If you buy the pre built 3 times, you will have most of the cards you need, only needing to craft a few more to finish the deck.
well, aegis haven have 52% winrate, i think that is pretty solid
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Unforgiven Jan 11, 2018 @ 2:30pm 
Originally posted by Kirfhian:
Originally posted by VM8RA:
haven isn't that good right now. the 3 best decks are ramp dragon (control), mid shaddow and dirt rune (aggro)

dirt rune is the cheapest of the 3 decks to get up and running, but shadow isn't much more, and you can actually get a lot of the cards from the set 2 shadow pre builts. If you buy the pre built 3 times, you will have most of the cards you need, only needing to craft a few more to finish the deck.
well, aegis haven have 52% winrate, i think that is pretty solid

That's not aegis havens winrate that's havens winrate in general, aegis has 43% winrate and summit has 54%.
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hrooza Jan 12, 2018 @ 5:39am 
Originally posted by Bishop:
heals.
haven barely have any decent heal in rotation
i had to use happy pig as a heal card for my deck :steamsad:

even curate dont do much cus of being so late to the party
frog and pure are big tembo lose a mare 3/3 or 2/2 at 4 that does not give you appear hand is just bad
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Kirfhian Jan 12, 2018 @ 6:52am 
Originally posted by Unforgiven:
Originally posted by Kirfhian:
well, aegis haven have 52% winrate, i think that is pretty solid

That's not aegis havens winrate that's havens winrate in general, aegis has 43% winrate and summit has 54%.
aegis 43% ... where did u see that?
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Complete Domination Jan 12, 2018 @ 8:17am 
Originally posted by hrooza07:
its only good if the draw a summit tamble and manage to live tell they play knight 3 times

against ramp dragon their summit and knight will get baha to the face
against rune? they got to deal with daria high roll or get burned to oblivion (they lost their big aoe and most of their heal)
against mid shadow? good luck playing knight without getting eachtared next turn

its a good deck but really no where near broken as the trio

haven is natural enemy to baha thanks to their last words and the notorious tribunal,so no they are not scared of baha.

burn rune has consistency problem while needing rite synergy to get things going.

shadow is weak to haven thanks to banish.

Those three *broken* decks have nothing on haven. People just don't want to break their wallet for another class.

I'll give you that the lack of heals in rotation is a problem but so what ? Unless you're dragon you're not going to heal tons like you could in unlimited anyway.
Last edited by Complete Domination; Jan 12, 2018 @ 8:39am
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Unforgiven Jan 12, 2018 @ 10:37am 
Originally posted by Kirfhian:
Originally posted by Unforgiven:

That's not aegis havens winrate that's havens winrate in general, aegis has 43% winrate and summit has 54%.
aegis 43% ... where did u see that?

Shadowlog. Aegis 46% going first 42% going 2nd

Summit 53% going first 51% going 2nd
Last edited by Unforgiven; Jan 12, 2018 @ 10:37am
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starxlight Jan 13, 2018 @ 4:29am 
Originally posted by Unforgiven:
Originally posted by Kirfhian:
aegis 43% ... where did u see that?

Shadowlog. Aegis 46% going first 42% going 2nd

Summit 53% going first 51% going 2nd

Sorry? What? Are you sure you are looking at Rotation Aegis Haven? Because it is a very strong deck right now. I would say tier 1, same as Dragon, Shadow, and Rune.
https://shadowlog.com/trend/2018/1/0/710r

It beats Ramp Dragon, Midrange Shadow and Burn Rune. The top 3 decks in the meta.
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