Game is boring because it will always revolve around uninteractive cards

[Konoko]

1. D-Shift
2. Face decks (Roach / Albert / storm haven / aggro blood)

Most games are auto-pilot mode as they are already decided based on your deck and what you're up against.

[ばるるん]

Unforgiven の投稿を引用：

And which country would that be? Basically what you're saying is that the game is supposed to be complicated because on paper u have to actually read the cards? Wow such high level complicated mechanics....That's how it is for any card game, not just yugioh, try playing mtg on paper and then come back again and tell me yugioh is complicated or has any kind of complexity nowadays

Do I really need to state my nationality? Are you that ignorant?
Obviously you have never been taking your time into it for proper playing. If you played the game you would know it's not that easy. Peace.

Ah, oh, I forgot, I'm talking to a german (ﾉ∀`)

[his1roguenation]

World Lock'd

[Silviechan]

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I LITTERLY mention that I played paper aka NON ads for ..what 12+years or even longer before i even tried it on any type of ads and I thought people IN REAL LIFE not on an ads..and also I got 4th in europe alot years ago so its not like "i was playing the game differently" then intended :|

I don't know when your time to shine was, but you could try to research further about it. I also don't know about european tournaments. But in my country people were strict serious about it, not to mention about the judges.
But believe me, if you checked the rules and effect's for each card, you will notice either 1. you would have done it differently due to your understanding or 2. you have done it already differently.
Even my folks are struggling with that part.

I also did a test abaout ruling and got a diplomacy somewhere from konami that i could be counted as an "offical judge" for turnaments if needed but sure..i dont know anything at all even thought by just straight up logic i learned most things even the special rulings on most cards..but yeah sorry I gues your country know better then konami too because why would the creators of the game know anything abaout it-shrugs- i gues your country probely know better then cygames too..(ﾉ∀`)

[Unforgiven]

ばるるん の投稿を引用：

Unforgiven の投稿を引用：

And which country would that be? Basically what you're saying is that the game is supposed to be complicated because on paper u have to actually read the cards? Wow such high level complicated mechanics....That's how it is for any card game, not just yugioh, try playing mtg on paper and then come back again and tell me yugioh is complicated or has any kind of complexity nowadays

Do I really need to state my nationality? Are you that ignorant?
Obviously you have never been taking your time into it for proper playing. If you played the game you would know it's not that easy. Peace.

Ah, oh, I forgot, I'm talking to a german (ﾉ∀`)

Sadly i'm not a german but nice try to be racist.

As mentioned multiple times, i've played it during ygopro times and was quite high ranked there in the tcg ladder and yes your nationality does matter if u say yugioh was big in ur country because yugioh was never big/serious in any country besides japan, which u're obviously not from. It's funny enough that u try to make one of the easiest card games which was aimed at an audience of under 12 look like rocket science while you're probably some low-tier player in any card game around, because the way you talk about this makes it kinda obvious that you're the one who literally has no clue about yugioh tournaments or ladder play, i suggest you look up some 2016/17 tournaments and see for yourself how "complex" your game is now and then compare it to SV, fanboy :)

[his1roguenation]

(at Umbreon)*

Can someone explain to me why the people with the most distorted points of view and most autistic arguments are always the guys who ranked high in ominous tournaments, played said game for decades and participated successfully in the ESL in various other games, yet somehow hide all information behind a "pm me" wall.

Even if you actually were anyhow partaking in YGO events with money prizes, which I'm sure you didn't, it wouldn't change anything about the juvenile familial amaurotic idiocy you are spreading in every direction. If you were capable of anything worthwhile, your english wouldn't be superlatively broken and I wouldn't disapprove of every single thing you say. How does my opinion on your statements matter? Take a wild guess.

And this:

An Umbreon の投稿を引用：

did a test abaout ruling and got a diplomacy

is gold man, I think I will forward to 4ch an.

You can leave now.

[ばるるん]

An Umbreon の投稿を引用：

I also did a test abaout ruling and got a diplomacy somewhere from konami that i could be counted as an "offical judge" for turnaments if needed but sure..i dont know anything at all even thought by just straight up logic i learned most things even the special rulings on most cards..but yeah sorry I gues your country know better then konami too because why would the creators of the game know anything abaout it-shrugs- i gues your country probely know better then cygames too..(ﾉ∀`)

If you were really that good at ruling, then you would know the rules are not easy to handle when it comes to individual effect. But since you completely ignored that fact, I highly doubt your statement. And yeah, my country probably know much better than your european Konami. Guess why? Because it's the homeland of that game, dear.

Unforgiven の投稿を引用：

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Germans always abuse this word "racist". You should know better what it means. Upon my experiences germans are ignorant, so are you. It has nothing to do with being a racist at all.
And obviously you are really ignorant. Not taking your time to do researches and just say stuffs based on your insufficient experiences - probably because you disrespect that game.
Any yugioh player knows that a 12 years old kid will never be able to fully comprehend the rules and interactions the game offers.
Why do you think I'm not a japanese? Because I can speak english and waste my time talking to you guys on this forum? What is this if you don't call it ignorance.

[Silviechan]

ばるるん の投稿を引用：

An Umbreon の投稿を引用：

I also did a test abaout ruling and got a diplomacy somewhere from konami that i could be counted as an "offical judge" for turnaments if needed but sure..i dont know anything at all even thought by just straight up logic i learned most things even the special rulings on most cards..but yeah sorry I gues your country know better then konami too because why would the creators of the game know anything abaout it-shrugs- i gues your country probely know better then cygames too..(ﾉ∀`)

If you were really that good at ruling, then you would know the rules are not easy to handle when it comes to individual effect. But since you completely ignored that fact, I highly doubt your statement. And yeah, my country probably know much better than your european Konami. Guess why? Because it's the homeland of that game, dear.

Unforgiven の投稿を引用：

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Germans always abuse this word "racist". You should know better what it means. Upon my experiences germans are ignorant, so are you. It has nothing to do with being a racist at all.
And obviously you are really ignorant. Not taking your time to do researches and just say stuffs based on your insufficient experiences - probably because you disrespect that game.
Any yugioh player knows that a 12 years old kid will never be able to fully comprehend the rules and interactions the game offers.
Why do you think I'm not a japanese? Because I can speak english and waste my time talking to you guys on this forum? What is this if you don't call it ignorance.

Japanese players accualy place quite poorly in most world turnaments the last years and just because a country made the thing doesnt mean they automaticly become "the best"
on avrage japanse players(imo koreans usually do better then japanse players in most games) place quite high but when it come to yugioh japan never been that strong lol and also
"If you were really that good at ruling, then you would know the rules are not easy to handle when it comes to individual effect." alot effects either use common sence or compleatly breaks the game so they have to write invidual rulings thats why they started making more and more erratas because alot of the most "complicated" mechanics was just BAD design..if you had keept up with the news you would known this too.
And im just saying your overestimate how complicate yugioh is and wastely underestimate how complicate shadowverse can be

[Unforgiven]

ばるるん の投稿を引用：

An Umbreon の投稿を引用：

I also did a test abaout ruling and got a diplomacy somewhere from konami that i could be counted as an "offical judge" for turnaments if needed but sure..i dont know anything at all even thought by just straight up logic i learned most things even the special rulings on most cards..but yeah sorry I gues your country know better then konami too because why would the creators of the game know anything abaout it-shrugs- i gues your country probely know better then cygames too..(ﾉ∀`)

If you were really that good at ruling, then you would know the rules are not easy to handle when it comes to individual effect. But since you completely ignored that fact, I highly doubt your statement. And yeah, my country probably know much better than your european Konami. Guess why? Because it's the homeland of that game, dear.

Unforgiven の投稿を引用：

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Germans always abuse this word "racist". You should know better what it means. Upon my experiences germans are ignorant, so are you. It has nothing to do with being a racist at all.
And obviously you are really ignorant. Not taking your time to do researches and just say stuffs based on your insufficient experiences - probably because you disrespect that game.
Any yugioh player knows that a 12 years old kid will never be able to fully comprehend the rules and interactions the game offers.
Why do you think I'm not a japanese? Because I can speak english and waste my time talking to you guys on this forum? What is this if you don't call it ignorance.

LOL that is exactly what racist means, saying "all germans are ignorant" is racist indeed.
Whatever you say, insufficient experience, lmao. Should read my previous comments and yes my 12 year old cousin did play yugioh and understood all the rules and effects perfectly fine.
3 ppl telling you you're wrong and u still argue about it, i'm starting to think that you're the one here who hasn't rly played yugioh on a decent enough level to actually comment on this.#
And no, you're not japanese, u might pretend to be japanese but i can tell 100% that you're not japanese.

[ばるるん]

An Umbreon の投稿を引用：

Japanese players accualy place quite poorly in most world turnaments the last years and just because a country made the thing doesnt mean they automaticly become "the best"
on avrage japanse players(imo koreans usually do better then japanse players in most games) place quite high but when it come to yugioh japan never been that strong

The difference between japanese players and others is just that japaneses tend to play decks and combinations they like, while the others tend to copy eachothers op decks for no reason.
Koreans maybe better, but that doesn't concern you in anyway.

An Umbreon の投稿を引用：

alot effects either use common sence or compleatly breaks the game so they have to write invidual rulings thats why they started making more and more erratas because alot of the most "complicated" mechanics was just BAD design

This common sense will fail on you once you research the effect resolving for any single cards in your deck, because it often doesn't work that way. Might be a bad design, but it represents a difficulty in a way. Damn I'm repeating myself here just because you guys fail to recognize it.
I'm not overestimating it, it's the other way around: you are underestimating it and overestimating Shadowverse. I have seen hundreds of people messing up yugioh's rules while practically zero who can't comprehend Shadowverse.

Unforgiven の投稿を引用：

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If you say you cousin can understand it 100% then you yourself don't understand it. That's enough for me.
But your ignorance is real. Like you know? There is no english speaking asians. I am sorry for you.

[Silviechan]

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An Umbreon の投稿を引用：

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yet entier top 8 japan there was 6 d/d decks and 1abc and 1 phantomroid deck
all 3 decks was super meta at the time and also 5 of those 6 d/d decks was 100% copy from an american player.. sorry I will just agree to disagree with you then :) and just by reading discussions here on steam you should relise that " zero who can't comprehend Shadowverse" is not true at all
And also its kinda stupid compairing the 2 since one is paper and one is auto-mechanic
if both was paper(they had turnament with "real cards" once in japan when it come to cygames) shadowverse would be way more complicated
and if both was mechanical then alot of the "complicated" stuff from yugioh would automaticly dissapear because it would be programed how the cards would work and not a guesing game(for example horus the flame dragons ruling as been changed 7 times during the last 8 years..thats not really a "consistant" ruling and more of a bad design)

[ばるるん]

An Umbreon の投稿を引用：

yet entier top 8 japan there was 6 d/d decks and 1abc and 1 phantomroid deck
all 3 decks was super meta at the time and also 5 of those 6 d/d decks was 100% copy from an american player.. sorry I will just agree to disagree with you then :)l

Obviously it's the other way around lol

An Umbreon の投稿を引用：

and just by reading discussions here on steam you should relise that " zero who can't comprehend Shadowverse" is not true at all

I have never seen someone not understanding the rules in this game. Most of those people who complained only didn't comprehend the not obvious mechanics, where common sense failed.

An Umbreon の投稿を引用：

And also its kinda stupid compairing the 2 since one is paper and one is auto-mechanic
if both was paper(they had turnament with "real cards" once in japan when it come to cygames) shadowverse would be way more complicated

I'm not the one starting to compare both. You should look back who did.

An Umbreon の投稿を引用：

and if both was mechanical then alot of the "complicated" stuff from yugioh would automaticly dissapear because it would be programed how the cards would work and not a guesing game(for example horus the flame dragons ruling as been changed 7 times during the last 8 years..thats not really a "consistant" ruling and more of a bad design)

The truth is: everything stays the same, nothing changed, and still individual cases need to be clarified officially to be played right. I know you don't have such services overseas.
The only things changed for cards are only the texts for a better description or nerfs.

[Silviechan]

ばるるん の投稿を引用：

An Umbreon の投稿を引用：

yet entier top 8 japan there was 6 d/d decks and 1abc and 1 phantomroid deck
all 3 decks was super meta at the time and also 5 of those 6 d/d decks was 100% copy from an american player.. sorry I will just agree to disagree with you then :)l

Obviously it's the other way around lol

An Umbreon の投稿を引用：

and just by reading discussions here on steam you should relise that " zero who can't comprehend Shadowverse" is not true at all

I have never seen someone not understanding the rules in this game. Most of those people who complained only didn't comprehend the not obvious mechanics, where common sense failed.

An Umbreon の投稿を引用：

And also its kinda stupid compairing the 2 since one is paper and one is auto-mechanic
if both was paper(they had turnament with "real cards" once in japan when it come to cygames) shadowverse would be way more complicated

I'm not the one starting to compare both. You should look back who did.

An Umbreon の投稿を引用：

and if both was mechanical then alot of the "complicated" stuff from yugioh would automaticly dissapear because it would be programed how the cards would work and not a guesing game(for example horus the flame dragons ruling as been changed 7 times during the last 8 years..thats not really a "consistant" ruling and more of a bad design)

The truth is: everything stays the same, nothing changed, and still individual cases need to be clarified officially to be played right. I know you don't have such services overseas.
The only things changed for cards are only the texts for a better description or nerfs.

no..things def changed..xD and they NEVER changed the card description or changed the text in new prints of the card
but lets just agree to disagree on this subject :) your a clever and smart person and frankly we probely never going to agree because we see it from diffrent point of view
So have a nice day

[ばるるん]

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they NEVER changed the card description or changed the text in new prints of the card

http://blog-imgs-64.fc2.com/d/o/m/dominogardenrule/20140415231315fe7.jpg
What did you say about them not changing card description?

[Unforgiven]

ばるるん の投稿を引用：

An Umbreon の投稿を引用：

Japanese players accualy place quite poorly in most world turnaments the last years and just because a country made the thing doesnt mean they automaticly become "the best"
on avrage japanse players(imo koreans usually do better then japanse players in most games) place quite high but when it come to yugioh japan never been that strong

The difference between japanese players and others is just that japaneses tend to play decks and combinations they like, while the others tend to copy eachothers op decks for no reason.
Koreans maybe better, but that doesn't concern you in anyway.

An Umbreon の投稿を引用：

alot effects either use common sence or compleatly breaks the game so they have to write invidual rulings thats why they started making more and more erratas because alot of the most "complicated" mechanics was just BAD design

This common sense will fail on you once you research the effect resolving for any single cards in your deck, because it often doesn't work that way. Might be a bad design, but it represents a difficulty in a way. Damn I'm repeating myself here just because you guys fail to recognize it.
I'm not overestimating it, it's the other way around: you are underestimating it and overestimating Shadowverse. I have seen hundreds of people messing up yugioh's rules while practically zero who can't comprehend Shadowverse.

Unforgiven の投稿を引用：

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If you say you cousin can understand it 100% then you yourself don't understand it. That's enough for me.
But your ignorance is real. Like you know? There is no english speaking asians. I am sorry for you.

not about speaking english or not, u have no japanese friends or tags, only some 3rd world EU wannabe weebs with anime profile pics and just the way you talk makes it obvious.
Dude, in yugioh there is not much to understand, u read the card descriptions and play it, if u want more u go to tournaments or w/e and there the gameplay is totally different.
It's the same with LoL, watch bronze players play and then pro's play, my definition of understanding a game is very different from yours.

[ばるるん]

Unforgiven の投稿を引用：

not about speaking english or not, u have no japanese friends or tags

You are blind or don't know how to browse. It's just you being an ignorant.
And obviously you have never played it correctly so you don't know about the depth of it.
Germans, really.