Alumon or Calibretto?

[Naso]

Im running with monika and gully, who suits best for healing with these two?

[lastbreath]

I like Calibretto more. It has good quick healing skill.

[Koby]

Bretto, Gully, and Garrison are by far the strongest 3 characters to have together in game.

Alumon, Knolan, and Monika are much slower at wiping out mobs.

If you build your perks up correctly, Gully stops pretty much all damage from ever touching your HP, while Garrison 1-shot-kills everything including the final boss.

[Naso]

just got ohko on that catacombs dungeon, im on lv17-18 and im having a bad time trying to clear mobs, playing on middle difficulty, gave all my books to monika so i suppose i did a mistake if garrison is better :/

[Nito]

Knolan.....

Mostly because of burst like heal even more on crits....and the second special skill recovers mana....and chilling enemies(buffed version and 3 times) mainly bosses hahahah i have over 12 turns before a boss act once hahahahahhaha

[Koby]

Originally posted by Nito:

Knolan.....

Mostly because of burst like heal even more on crits....and the second special skill recovers mana....and chilling enemies(buffed version and 3 times) mainly bosses hahahah i have over 12 turns before a boss act once hahahahahhaha

With a good party setup boss battles don't last 12 turns.

Gully shields the entire party, while Garrison can one-shot everything including the final boss if he hits a critical.

[Nito]

Originally posted by Koby:

With a good party setup boss battles don't last 12 turns.

Well on my boss fights after chilling the 3 times the bosses act only 1 or 2 times while each character i have can act each 2 or 3 times

[Koby]

Originally posted by Nito:

Originally posted by Koby:

With a good party setup boss battles don't last 12 turns.

Well on my boss fights after chilling the 3 times the bosses act only 1 or 2 times while each character i have can act each 2 or 3 times

The point was that's a lot of added turns though for something that could have been taken out on the very first attack.

You're talking about spending 3 turns chilling the bosses, allowing them to attack twice, and having each of your characters go 2 to 3 turns... When I'm talking about a character one-shotting the boss on his very first turn of the fight.

Characters like Knolan and Monika just slow the entire battle down because they focus on status effects and damage over time; while Garrison focuses on just wiping everything out in a single hit with high critical percentages.

[Nito]

Originally posted by Koby:

The point was that's a lot of added turns though for something that could have been taken out on the very first attack.

You're talking about spending 3 turns chilling the bosses, allowing them to attack twice, and having each of your characters go 2 to 3 turns... When I'm talking about a character one-shotting the boss on his very first turn of the fight.

Characters like Knolan and Monika just slow the entire battle down because they focus on status effects and damage over time; while Garrison focuses on just wiping everything out in a single hit with high critical percentages.

Well i am doing Critical Garrison and i am doing relentless assault + berserk and yes you can kill but normally i need 3 turns

[☕ Grüntherspöth 🍟]

Originally posted by Koby:

Bretto, Gully, and Garrison are by far the strongest 3 characters to have together in game.

Alumon, Knolan, and Monika are much slower at wiping out mobs.

If you build your perks up correctly, Gully stops pretty much all damage from ever touching your HP, while Garrison 1-shot-kills everything including the final boss.

Typicial "my build is the best" answer... did you actually try with other group?
In this game you can basically make any group feel like OP, as long as you put enough effort to it.

I've seen some videos where Monika too can one shot anyone... some other where Even Knolan can be used as main healer...

especially if you farm much...
because I hardly doubt you can "one shot anyone" with Garisson on a regular dungeon displaying a "medium/hard" difficulty... same for Gully "preventing every damage".

Of course if you do a lvl 20 dungeon at level 30, it may seem OP

[Koby]

Originally posted by ☕ Grüntherspöth 🍟:

Originally posted by Koby:

Bretto, Gully, and Garrison are by far the strongest 3 characters to have together in game.

Alumon, Knolan, and Monika are much slower at wiping out mobs.

If you build your perks up correctly, Gully stops pretty much all damage from ever touching your HP, while Garrison 1-shot-kills everything including the final boss.

Typicial "my build is the best" answer... did you actually try with other group?
In this game you can basically make any group feel like OP, as long as you put enough effort to it.

I've seen some videos where Monika too can one shot anyone... some other where Even Knolan can be used as main healer...

especially if you farm much...
because I hardly doubt you can "one shot anyone" with Garisson on a regular dungeon displaying a "medium/hard" difficulty... same for Gully "preventing every damage".

Of course if you do a lvl 20 dungeon at level 30, it may seem OP

Of course I have tried other builds. I've played through the game 3x now while attempting to shake things up party-wise every time and try to make it more challenging. My very first play through the game, the last three bosses I went up against were one-shotted by Garrison, so in subsequent plays I opted not to use him for dungeon runs as much.

Also my statements have practically been universally agreed on in these forums with almost everyone repeating this statement in threads over the last 2 years besides like two people who continually push that Monika can out damage Garrison despite the numbers simply proving this isn't the case. Just look it up, all of the posts are here on the board.

The problem with Monika and Knolan is that they can't generate and maintain OC nearly as efficient. The Synergy the first three party members have with their abilities simply can't be matched. They just work so well together. Of course you can be OP with other party setups as well, but overall it's slower, more work, and more turns.

If you doubt Gully can prevent all damage, then you've not played the game with a good setup of perks and abilities used. By mid-way into the game you'll be starting battles with fair good Damage Shields and can easily build them up higher before the enemies get a chance to go to the point that at times I had more Shield than actual HP to the point that I could keep building shield at a higher rate than enemies could damage. On my first run I remember having Gully with 30K HP and an estimated 35K Shield at one point. You tell me what enemy can hit for that kind of damage.

I do believe the developers nuked some stats since that run though in 2018. As there is some posts mentioning that and subsequent runs I swear that my stats didn't end up nearly as massive. But that doesn't change my experience of the first run I did through the game.

As for the difficulty. I always opt play on the hardest option available to me. I'm not talking about level 20 dungeons at level 30. I'm literally talking the final boss on the hardest difficulty option. In the very first playthrough I did, Garrison hit the boss that had 35K HP.... for nearly 60K damage on his first attack.

Doubt all you want, but there is no need for the hostility. Go read through the last dozen pages of threads from other users who talk about the same experiences with the game.

[space0pilot]

Just started NG+ (beat first dungeon on Mythic, on way to second one) - I decided to run Gully Garrison Alumon

[Legato Bluesummers]

Alumon is excellent with his blood boil, it's very fast and does extra damage if someone is on fire. Using the fire bomb of Red and the Fire explosion of Knolan can wreck really high level opponents in no time. 2 rounds of this gets them to level 4 fire which just takes them out. Especially nice to have these three for the Arena if you need to level them up. They can go pretty damn far with just stacking status effects and healing in the meantime.