Battle Chasers: Nightwar

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Dorok 2017 年 10 月 14 日 上午 8:55
Any game like this?
As the final parts of the game are closer I'm a bit sad to finish my play and I wondered if there's any game like that.

Understand that usually I don't like JRPG, but those last years there's 2 I really enjoyed, first Trails In The Sky and Battle Chasers: Nightwar.

No clue what's the link between both, a guess is none force to a lot of grinding, at worse only a bit. And, sigh, both main hero is female character (I consider Gully is almost a main character) which perhaps was a change with the male teen hero JRPG cliche I'm totally tired of.
最后由 Dorok 编辑于; 2017 年 10 月 14 日 上午 8:56
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「Choobs」 2017 年 10 月 14 日 下午 9:10 
This game atually reminds me the most of South Park: The Stick of Truth, but that game is oversimplified in comparison.

In terms of actual JRPGs, The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky bares some similarities. It's a little more involved, but the flow and strategy of battles is similar.
Viz 2017 年 10 月 14 日 下午 9:15 
The art, gameplay and music in I am Setsuna are all fantastic but the story and characters are super generic and forgettable.
VandalVortex 2017 年 10 月 15 日 上午 3:54 
Final Fantasy X is the only thing I can think of. It's why I bought Battle Chasers in the first place. Divinity Original Sin is another but the story feels very cliche and generic as well as annoyingly whimsical at times.
最后由 VandalVortex 编辑于; 2017 年 10 月 15 日 上午 3:56
Dorok 2017 年 10 月 15 日 上午 4:36 
引用自 Eninya
Unsure if you're looking only for something modern, so I'll recommend some older console stuff.
I played/tried some Final Fantasy, Some Dragon Quest, Golden Sun, Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy Tactics, Tactic Ogres, Vagrant Story, a Fire Emblem, a Valkyria Chronicles, more.

I didn't finished much, and even the few I finished, it wasn't like Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky and even less like Battle Chasers: Nightwar.

So I was wondering if someone experienced in JRPG could see if they have key differences with other JRPG and that they share, and if there's other JRPG matching.

Myself, I don't know, I'd say:
- Almost no grinding, a few but very few.
- Good combats with a fairly good diversity.
- Ok writing, doesn't abuse of teens cliches.
- Otherwise overall quite good but that's not a criteria.

This game atually reminds me the most of South Park: The Stick of Truth, but that game is oversimplified in comparison.

In terms of actual JRPGs, The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky bares some similarities. It's a little more involved, but the flow and strategy of battles is similar.
South Park crash on launch on my computer, problem never solved.

That said I don't like much the cartoon, it got me tired past 10/20 episodes, I have doubts the game works that well for a non fan of the cartoon. Moreover it has real time elements that have a good chance to bore me, and even more I never ever enjoyed RPG using sarcasm about RPG.

Final Fantasy X is the only thing I can think of. It's why I bought Battle Chasers in the first place. Divinity Original Sin is another but the story feels very cliche and generic as well as annoyingly whimsical at times.
That you mention DOS makes me think we aren't on the same track, I can't see any single link with DOS1.
最后由 Dorok 编辑于; 2017 年 10 月 15 日 上午 4:39
Morgalad 2017 年 10 月 15 日 上午 6:38 
Most final fantasies befor XVIII, Phantasy Star, Chrono Trigger, there's a lot of them. Just google best old school jrpgs and you'll find a pretty decent list.

However, a Jrpg not based around a group of teens is kind of as common as a manga or anime not based around a bunch of 15 year olds. (Even Guts is younger than 15 in the Golden Age ark)
最后由 Morgalad 编辑于; 2017 年 10 月 15 日 上午 6:41
VandalVortex 2017 年 10 月 15 日 上午 6:43 
Battle Chasers and DOS1 are...

Turn based/ strategy
Isometric
Not to grindy

I have never played Trails in the sky, maybe one day. lol

I would still suggest FF over anything else though
最后由 VandalVortex 编辑于; 2017 年 10 月 15 日 上午 6:43
Morgalad 2017 年 10 月 15 日 上午 6:45 
Battle Chasers and DOS1 are...

Turn based/ strategy
Isometric
Not to grindy

I have never played Trails in the sky, maybe one day. lol

Ye but they are quite different. Jrpgs usually have a pretty linear path with some sidequests that don't really affect the main quest. DOS1 and 2 are literally the tabletop dungeons and dragons translated into a videogame. Speaking plainly, in DOS there's are as many ways to complete a quest as to ♥♥♥♥ it up. In jrpgs you can't really ♥♥♥♥ up.
最后由 Morgalad 编辑于; 2017 年 10 月 15 日 上午 6:48
VandalVortex 2017 年 10 月 15 日 上午 6:48 
引用自 S4ndm4n
Battle Chasers and DOS1 are...

Turn based/ strategy
Isometric
Not to grindy

I have never played Trails in the sky, maybe one day. lol

Ye but they are quite different. Jrpgs usually have a pretty linear path with some sidequests that don't really affect the main quest. DOS1 and 2 are literally the tabletop dungeons and dragons translated into a videogame. Speaking plainly, in DOS there's are as many ways to complete a quest as to ♥♥♥♥ it up. In jrpgs you can't really ♥♥♥♥ up.

Ah, I see. I own them but have not got far in either, especially battle chasers as I'm currently playing prey. Mainly wanted to see if battle chasers would run without any problems and then proceed to wait for updates before I fully play it.
最后由 VandalVortex 编辑于; 2017 年 10 月 15 日 上午 6:49
Eninya 2017 年 10 月 15 日 上午 7:13 
引用自 Dorok
引用自 Eninya
Unsure if you're looking only for something modern, so I'll recommend some older console stuff.
I played/tried some Final Fantasy, Some Dragon Quest, Golden Sun, Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy Tactics, Tactic Ogres, Vagrant Story, a Fire Emblem, a Valkyria Chronicles, more.

So I was wondering if someone experienced in JRPG could see if they have key differences with other JRPG and that they share, and if there's other JRPG matching.

Myself, I don't know, I'd say:
- Almost no grinding, a few but very few.
- Good combats with a fairly good diversity.
- Ok writing, doesn't abuse of teens cliches.
- Otherwise overall quite good but that's not a criteria.
JRPGs, by genre definition, tend to be grindy. Breath of Fire games can have some grind, but usually not much.

BoF2 has a place in the game that gives insane experience, but most people avoid it until the very end of the game where the second-to-last boss is INSANELY harder than the rest of the game and requires a huge amount of levels to even be doable. (Since I last played on an emulator, and used the infinite strength trick for Katt, it took me over 125 savestates and meticulously playing out that fight to beat it, at level 46-47 (recommended at 50+). Last dungeon is entered around the 40s, so it was a bit ridiculous. Even had most of the easier to obtain ultimate gear by that point.

BoF3 never really requires a lot of grinding in any one place. The fishing minigame can be annoying, but also isn't required. The master system was introduced in this game, which gives some cool character leveling options for stats and perks. I can't really recall how BoF4 stacks up, but I don't have fond memories of it.

Valkyrie Profile's combat is actually the most attractive part of the game. Learning each character, and who you'll keep in your main line up when you can, is cool. It's got a decent difficulty curve without being overbearing. Some of the dungeons can be confusing or hard, especially on hard mode where I feel a guide is necessary for some of the later, puzzle-like ones. The story is interesting to say the least and I've been dying for a third game in the series.

Personally, despite liking most of the Final Fantasy series, I hated FFX. Like, cannot stand that game at all. I've played it start to finish (minus superbosses/extras), but I honestly enjoyed FFX-2 more, because of the active combat system.

Since you mentioned Chrono Trigger, I highly recommend pushing through and beating that game. It's so worth it, and absolutely deserves all of the praise it's received over the years.
Talana 💃 2017 年 10 月 15 日 上午 7:24 
My fav older turn-based jrpg ( before FFX ) will forever be Breath of Fire III. That game has it all, story, gameplay, fun, character developement, strategy, some nice puzzles - I really wish it could come to Steam .
And it sure has the best fishing sidequest ever , in any game I have played .
You need to grind a bit, but not overly much . I guess all rpg`s usually has some grinding.
Maybe the game closest to Battle Chaser - I believe BC has been inspired a lot by this old gem.
最后由 Talana 💃 编辑于; 2017 年 10 月 15 日 上午 7:26
Death Inferno 2017 年 10 月 15 日 下午 5:46 
My favorite is Chrono Cross. A turn-based game with three characters in the party, special abilities, weapon upgrades, visible enemies on the screen while roaming the submap/dungeon, has a supermap as well on which you have to save since there was no autosave back then. The game kind of has two main characters. Sadly you'll need an emulator and the ISO file of the game with the correct region in order to play it without any problems.
Anacra 2017 年 10 月 15 日 下午 5:58 
If you want something with zero grinding and good combat system, try Cosmic Star Heroine.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/256460/Cosmic_Star_Heroine/

You don't have to grind a single fight. Enemies don't respawn, and they are visible on the screen. The devs really care about the players' time, and have made it so that IF you want to grind, you can do so in a very clever way. I played the game on the hardest difficulty (not for the faint of heart btw), and didn't have to grind once.

The combat system is also great, with fights having a flow and you needing to time your abilities based on when the characters get Hyper (you'll understand when you play). It gives the system enough strategy that will keep the combat entertaining till the end.

The story is fairly basic, but the game is only about $15. It's a steal at that price, really.
Dorok 2017 年 10 月 15 日 下午 6:27 
Battle Chasers and DOS1 are...

Turn based/ strategy
Isometric
Not to grindy

I have never played Trails in the sky, maybe one day. lol

I would still suggest FF over anything else though
Lol even you is realizing your explanation is a cheat. :-)

No I played both or I'm closing to finish first play for BNC, and they are hugely different. That said in their different genres I had a lot of fun with both.
Dorok 2017 年 10 月 15 日 下午 6:37 
引用自 Eninya
引用自 Dorok
I played/tried some Final Fantasy, Some Dragon Quest, Golden Sun, Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy Tactics, Tactic Ogres, Vagrant Story, a Fire Emblem, a Valkyria Chronicles, more.

So I was wondering if someone experienced in JRPG could see if they have key differences with other JRPG and that they share, and if there's other JRPG matching.

Myself, I don't know, I'd say:
- Almost no grinding, a few but very few.
- Good combats with a fairly good diversity.
- Ok writing, doesn't abuse of teens cliches.
- Otherwise overall quite good but that's not a criteria.
JRPGs, by genre definition, tend to be grindy.
Not be grindy doesn't remove to a JRPG to be a JRPG. It would be like saying that the Japanese male teen cliche are required in JRPJ, nope. Plenty JRPG are grindy and repeat ton of teen cliches again and again, but it's not a requirement in the genre.

引用自 Eninya
Breath of Fire games can have some grind, but usually not much.
BoF2 has a place in the game that gives insane experience, but most people avoid it until the very end of the game where the second-to-last boss is INSANELY harder than the rest of the game and requires a huge amount of levels to even be doable. (Since I last played on an emulator, and used the infinite strength trick for Katt, it took me over 125 savestates and meticulously playing out that fight to beat it, at level 46-47 (recommended at 50+). Last dungeon is entered around the 40s, so it was a bit ridiculous. Even had most of the easier to obtain ultimate gear by that point.

BoF3 never really requires a lot of grinding in any one place. The fishing minigame can be annoying, but also isn't required. The master system was introduced in this game, which gives some cool character leveling options for stats and perks. I can't really recall how BoF4 stacks up, but I don't have fond memories of it.

Valkyrie Profile's combat is actually the most attractive part of the game. Learning each character, and who you'll keep in your main line up when you can, is cool. It's got a decent difficulty curve without being overbearing. Some of the dungeons can be confusing or hard, especially on hard mode where I feel a guide is necessary for some of the later, puzzle-like ones. The story is interesting to say the least and I've been dying for a third game in the series.

Personally, despite liking most of the Final Fantasy series, I hated FFX. Like, cannot stand that game at all. I've played it start to finish (minus superbosses/extras), but I honestly enjoyed FFX-2 more, because of the active combat system.

Since you mentioned Chrono Trigger, I highly recommend pushing through and beating that game. It's so worth it, and absolutely deserves all of the praise it's received over the years.
thanks for the comments, I don't think I tried Breath of Fire and Valkyrie Profile, I quoted Valkyrie Chronicle but it could be Profile. The grinding aspect is major for me, so it's good to know.
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