Book of Demons
boodee Dec 26, 2018 @ 12:55pm
Which cards are lost in Nightmare/Massacre?
Hi, until now my Rogue is still a Daredevil (zero deaths on normal Difficulty) right at the end of Freeplay Nightmare. I'm a bit scared of losing my cherished 3*Legendaries on massacre, so i wonder which items will be lost in case of death.
Will it be a card from my ten slots or randomly from all cards?
Furthermore: will i only lose the card "on-top" (i.e. the active legendary and upgraded variant), all variants (including magicals and commons) or is it possible - if i'm lucky - to lose one of the not used common or magical variants?*

Btw i have to say, the game is a total blast. I love it. Have played over 31 hours in two days and looking forward to the next hours. :) I was curious if this little game could satisfy my "diablo-addiction" between the d3 seasons and after the last d2 ladderreset. And it totally does. Great job and i love all these little (or bigger ;)) nods to Diablo.

*Edit:
If the last case is right, i would obviously change the "activated" but currently "not slotted" cards to variants, that wouldn't bother me to lose. :D
Last edited by boodee; Dec 26, 2018 @ 1:00pm
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Darkness Dec 26, 2018 @ 1:05pm 
Tried to find something but couldn't, but I *think* you can lose any of your 10 equipped cards, precisely their selected/active variants.

EDIT: https://steamcommunity.com/app/449960/discussions/0/1742220359681837117/
Last edited by Darkness; Dec 26, 2018 @ 1:08pm
boodee Dec 26, 2018 @ 1:10pm 
Meh. That could be a reason to me, not to play massacre and forget about the daredevil status... then first level up to 50 and then go to massacre... :D hmmm...

Edit: ah, thanks a lot for the link. Couldn't find it myself... :)
Could someone verify, that wasn't changed in any patch, since that post is from september? :D
Last edited by boodee; Dec 26, 2018 @ 1:15pm
Darkness Dec 26, 2018 @ 1:15pm 
Well, if you're not into losing stuff (haha), a few alternatives:

1. Use the "save scumming" method: disable steam cloud, manually back up your save. If you die, reload your oldest save.

2. I *think* playing on casual difficulty instead of normal won't cause loss on death? Unsure, though.

3. Use more "disposable" cards instead of their legendary variants to start with. Not a fan of this, though.

4. Just go all-in blind and hope for the best. Losing cards is hurtful, but it'll certainly leave a wound that when healed, will make you play safer and better.
Last edited by Darkness; Dec 26, 2018 @ 1:15pm
boodee Dec 26, 2018 @ 1:28pm 
hmmm...
1. will see... :D when i step down to massacre, i'll backup the save. The dardevil status will be lost, but the cards should be restored, right? if i'm in the mood to go the lazy way then.. i'll see.^^

2. naah. The difficulty is exactly right for me. don't need weaker monsters or "no imposed cards". Just don't wanna lose any precious items. :D (don't know though what exactly is different on casual mode^^)

3. that came to my mind too... :D but then i cannot use them too.. that's not cool either. ^^

4. yeah well.. probably gonna go with that. ^^ if it's too hurting, the Daredevil is gone anyways and i can go for nightmare again....
oldrocker99 Dec 26, 2018 @ 5:28pm 
I play Casual, and just when a rushing enemy would kill me, 5 stars dance around the screen, and hitting all 5 (it's not hard) will resurrect you. I like to have fun, not curse my mistakes or the game itself.

Haters of a 70 year oldrocker,:steammocking:
Secanho Dec 26, 2018 @ 6:10pm 
You lose what is in your hand (from the 10 slots). The variants remains. It is really frustrating. I'm trying to do those nudists achievements, but I guess I will wait to get lvl 50 to see if it helps.
Last edited by Secanho; Dec 26, 2018 @ 6:11pm
Shindragan Dec 26, 2018 @ 6:26pm 
Originally posted by LINUXoldrocker99:
I play Casual, and just when a rushing enemy would kill me, 5 stars dance around the screen, and hitting all 5 (it's not hard) will resurrect you. I like to have fun, not curse my mistakes or the game itself.

Haters of a 70 year oldrocker,:steammocking:

You get the stars minigame when you get stunned, not when you are about to die.. or is this a casual mechanic? hmm
boodee Dec 26, 2018 @ 6:27pm 
Originally posted by LINUXoldrocker99:
I play Casual, and just when a rushing enemy would kill me, 5 stars dance around the screen, and hitting all 5 (it's not hard) will resurrect you.
that works on Normal difficulty, too.^^ And also that "Death Rage" that can rescue you once every level. :)

Until now "Massacre" isn't as hard as i thought. The imposed cards were bad, but my remaining favorized cards did the job anyways without big problems. Nice. :D (if Leap gets blocked by a boss, it's getting tough, but the rest is fresh meat.)
oldrocker99 Dec 26, 2018 @ 7:09pm 
This game is a lot deeper than the cute grapihcs would make you think. In a way, it's an action game's equivalent of Dominions 5, a TBS which is as deep as the Marianas Trench.
Darkness Dec 27, 2018 @ 2:50am 
Originally posted by boodee:
Until now "Massacre" isn't as hard as i thought. The imposed cards were bad, but my remaining favorized cards did the job anyways without big problems. Nice. :D (if Leap gets blocked by a boss, it's getting tough, but the rest is fresh meat.)
Hold on until you get a really useless hand of imposed cards and the good stuff locked by bosses!
boodee Dec 27, 2018 @ 11:18am 
and so she died today... :( and my 3* legendary Epic Hail and Slippers are gone... gotta cry a bit now... ;)
at least i got to Season Rank 24 on Rogue's list. ^^
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