The Webley seems under powered .

[TECHNO_MAGE]

I have shot a Webley in real life. I have seen what the .455 round does to an old oak stump. Very large holes comparable to .45 acp. What the round may lack in penetration it greatly makes up for in mass. This would make the round under powered by today's standards as most infantry men wear body armor. However when there was no body armor the slow moving hard hitting old .455 round was feared. Again I have shot .455 and .45 acp and see no reason why the .455 Webley should do less damage than the .45 acp 1911. I would love to see the webley kill in 1-2 shots instead of 3-6. I feel like at this point there is no reason to even spend the 3 points (4 with speed loaders) on the gun. I would very much like to see this gun become what it should be.

[Mark33]

I think we have the webley .38 in game at the moment.

Would be nice to have a choice between a Webley.455 or an Enfield .38 (and the Browning HP of course)

[BlackCockDown]

One portrayed in-game is the No 2 Mk I in .38/200
Cos the British decided that the .455 was too large to be practical.

[TECHNO_MAGE]

I had thought this might be the case but was not sure. Besides .455 was still the standerd round. We NEED the .455. It is bad enoupgh that we cant get a decent revolver in insurgency (.38spl is not exactly a powerhouse) but it is understandable as not very many revolvers are still in service for miltiary or police. That being said they should consider the Manurhin MR 73 for insurgency. We have Brit guns and Isreali guns why not an old french warhorse that is still in service.

[Mark33]

Would be nice to have the high callibre version in game.

[zombiecrc]

The Browning Hi-Power is confirmed.

[BlackCockDown]

Originally posted by TECHNO_MAGE:

I had thought this might be the case but was not sure. Besides .455 was still the standerd round. We NEED the .455. It is bad enoupgh that we cant get a decent revolver in insurgency (.38spl is not exactly a powerhouse) but it is understandable as not very many revolvers are still in service for miltiary or police. That being said they should consider the Manurhin MR 73 for insurgency. We have Brit guns and Isreali guns why not an old french warhorse that is still in service.

But then the Brits figured that .455 was pretty impractically big and chose to sub it out in favour of the .38 Mk IV. It's better to keep it at that.

The Model 10 is an old war horse too, and the MR73 is just as capable of firing .38 Special. I heard the MR73 is more of a police weapon though (correct me if I'm wrong) and it makes less sense than a model 10 that has been everywhere. Good news though, there's a workshop model for you.

The Galil is old somewhat and belongs in the theatre as a gun soon to be subbed out, especially the ARM. The L1A1 is only for Security as it's just there in the files, just needed an update to the model.

[Mark33]

Let's face it though guys, with the Hi Power in game there really wont be a reason to take the .38 webley. It makes sense to introduce the .455 version if only for the officer.

[Jonnydodger]

Originally posted by Tavington:

Let's face it though guys, with the Hi Power in game there really wont be a reason to take the .38 webley. It makes sense to introduce the .455 version if only for the officer.

Depends on weather they limit the HP to certain classes, like the P08 only being avaliable for the officer, machinegun and sniper classes.

[Mark33]

I can see this happening, they were probably not too common apart from special troops or senior officers, In the movie a bridge too far you only see the generals with them.

[BlackCockDown]

The Hi-Power was more widely used than the Mk IV in the first place or so I hear, so maybe they can leave the Webley with the useless classes (*cough*, sniper) and officer as a show of rank.

[TECHNO_MAGE]

The webley mkIV was more commanly used and most often chambered in .455. That being said the high power will be fun.

[anon_omis]

I think it's main issue is the cost (unless that's changed). For rifleman it would cost something like 3 points +1 for the speed loader. That's way too much.

Was it at all common for the British to have M1911A1 semi-autos?

[TECHNO_MAGE]

no

[TECHNO_MAGE]

I dont care if the webley is exspensive to purchase I just want it to be a viable option

[anon_omis]

Originally posted by TECHNO_MAGE:

I dont care if the webley is exspensive to purchase I just want it to be a viable option

Well part of making it a viable option is making if cheap