Where the Water Tastes Like Wine

Where the Water Tastes Like Wine

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lpostini Dec 7, 2022 @ 5:17pm
PLS DEVS FIX THE IMPOSSIBLE ACHIEVEMENT BUG
please devs fix the last unobtenible achievement
Last edited by lpostini; Dec 7, 2022 @ 5:43pm
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Roodle Dec 11, 2022 @ 5:44am 
I made a post here like a year ago about this exact thing and no one from the devs has ever said anything. Their used to be a way around it by taking the train or something (you can find the guide on older posts) but whenever i try it, it does not do anything :(
Dahl Dec 11, 2022 @ 6:32am 
It's not a bug. Lead designer mentioned it was intentional in an interview.

Johnnemann Nordhagen is WtWTLW’s lead designer and he implemented this nefarious achievement system in order to drive home WtWTLW’s core message.

... and having a big, “You finished the game!” achievement, as most games do, bothered him."
Source:
https://kotaku.com/impossible-steam-achievement-has-a-great-story-1847363203
(More details there).

Looking around there's a post from 2018 talking about it the month after release. Combined with the interview being in 2021 kind of suggests developers standing firm to their design decision. But there's always hope a mind will change one day.
Last edited by Dahl; Dec 11, 2022 @ 6:49pm
vinirockman Dec 11, 2022 @ 9:46pm 
Originally posted by Dahl:
It's not a bug. Lead designer mentioned it was intentional in an interview.

Johnnemann Nordhagen is WtWTLW’s lead designer and he implemented this nefarious achievement system in order to drive home WtWTLW’s core message.

... and having a big, “You finished the game!” achievement, as most games do, bothered him."
Source:
https://kotaku.com/impossible-steam-achievement-has-a-great-story-1847363203
(More details there).

Looking around there's a post from 2018 talking about it the month after release. Combined with the interview being in 2021 kind of suggests developers standing firm to their design decision. But there's always hope a mind will change one day.


That's one of the dumbests moves I've ever heard by developers... Right next to Rockstar lawsuits against modders.
Given how much reaction it's getting out of all y'all, I think it was genius move to make it intentionally impossible to achieve.
Mael413 Jan 19, 2023 @ 4:35pm 
Originally posted by The dragophage:
Given how much reaction it's getting out of all y'all, I think it was genius move to make it intentionally impossible to achieve.
its not genius at all. just lame. how can a 'you finished the game' achievement bother him so much?
Originally posted by Mael413:
Originally posted by The dragophage:
Given how much reaction it's getting out of all y'all, I think it was genius move to make it intentionally impossible to achieve.
its not genius at all. just lame. how can a 'you finished the game' achievement bother him so much?
Most intelligent gamer's media critique
Originally posted by Crystal:
Originally posted by The dragophage:
Most intelligent gamer's media critique
right up there with with movies that dont let you know how long they are and books that capitalize every second letter. yes, im a very sophisticate intelligent person. praise me
Thank you, I'm indeed the most intelligent person in this thread by a country mile
RustedUrsa Feb 12, 2023 @ 3:25pm 
GUYS.[/h1/El Dorado, Big Rock Candy Mountain, the Place Where the Water Tastes Like Wine, et al... these places do. Not. Exist. That's the point of it being unachievable. It recreates the feeling of searching for these places. The emotions that real people experienced when they were trying to dig themselves out of whatever misery they were mired in by hunting for a fantasy land with no problems! The game is going for an experience that is just more complicated than "I did the thing. Dopamine, please." There's nothing wrong with walking away to play something else, but you're just not entitled to have every single game give you the same rote experience.
Every time someone repeats this point the intention of this design decision is further vindicated :P
Kek Topus Feb 16, 2023 @ 2:50am 
this is stupid, I will just cheat it so I can get 100%
game is already just walking simulator, I don't even read the text cause it's all cringe (HOW THE HECK YOU MANAGED TO MAKE INTERACTIONS WITH THE DEVIL CRINGE?), just click next, then walk towards next bonfire
teh Stach Mar 18, 2023 @ 5:40am 
Originally posted by Maciosz (Kek):
this is stupid, I will just cheat it so I can get 100%
game is already just walking simulator, I don't even read the text cause it's all cringe (HOW THE HECK YOU MANAGED TO MAKE INTERACTIONS WITH THE DEVIL CRINGE?), just click next, then walk towards next bonfire
Why bother playing? Or buying? You could've just jumped in cookie clicker and satisfy all your mindless clicking cravings. If a narrative-driven adventure is a walking simulator to you, I can Imagine you criticizing Euro Truck Simulator for absence of lovable characters.
MukiEX Jun 11, 2023 @ 6:52pm 
The developer: "but you're just not entitled to have every single game give you the same rote experience."

Narrator: The developer was just not entitled to have every single game give him the same return on investment.

https://www.polygon.com/2018/4/2/17188726/video-game-flops-where-the-water-tastes-like-wine-sales
Last edited by MukiEX; Jun 11, 2023 @ 6:52pm
Hexalotte Jun 21, 2023 @ 12:57pm 
This is a bad move from the developer. In the future I will first look at the forum before I buy a game...
Damn, do people really feel the need to get 100% that badly? I know about completionists but if you straight up avoid games with impossible achievements, it seems like some serious OCPD.
Which, to be fair, if you have, then makes sense. Developers should maybe include some manner of disclaimer for that. Trying to play Ubisoft titles must be even bigger torture though, I imagine, lol
JediWithADragon Aug 17, 2023 @ 4:26pm 
Originally posted by Those Bloody Badgers:
Damn, do people really feel the need to get 100% that badly? I know about completionists but if you straight up avoid games with impossible achievements, it seems like some serious OCPD.
Which, to be fair, if you have, then makes sense. Developers should maybe include some manner of disclaimer for that. Trying to play Ubisoft titles must be even bigger torture though, I imagine, lol
I like collecting achievements and 100% games, but I dont need to do so with every game (I played AC 1 and 2 on Steam). But with games like these, where there are achievements just because, and there is no legit way to get them, it just feels like the developer thinks they achieved some moral high ground or something. Like, it does nothing but drive off people who would buy this game if it had functional chievs.
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