3D printed weaponary in WD2 sounds sketchy...?

[/k/ILLDOZER]

I don't know about you, but I used to be on an IRC channel that discussed and worked on 3D printed guns. I wonder if any of you are familiar with the FOSSCAD community. Funny how a good majority of them align themselves as "Liberal gun owners" (not Conservative, but Liberal gun owners lol?) which is quite ironic if you ask me.

Politics aside, I'm not too sure if Ubisoft fully understands how 3D printed guns work. If I'm correct, you're going to have a hard time shooting anything higher than .22lr with a plastic barrel and a gun that is 99% plastic.

The "Grizzly 2.0" is a rifle that is 99% 3D printed plastic with the 1% being a metal pin to strike the bullet. According to Wikipedia, it can shoot up to 14 bullets until it becomes dangerous to operate (rapid wear and tear of the internals).

For an urban warfare like game such as WD2, 14 shots are going to run out quick.

But okay, what if the game allows you to 3D print a gun with parts that only metal can significantly increase the life of the gun? I don't think I've seen an "actual successful" 3D printed pistol that can shoot anything higher than .22lr. Maybe the lower frame, but the slide has to be metal? I really don't know myself considering I haven't been on FOSSCAD for 2-3 years now. And last time I checked, there's no such thing as a plastic slide for real steel pistols, was there? Maybe for .22lr, but anything higher I'm not too sure.

Many of the firearms created by the FOSSCAD community, especially the ones made by Warfairy and Deuce, and further tweaked by the community to improve durability, are based on an AR-15 lower receiver. Heck, they even made a lower receiver for the vz. 61 Scorpion SMG. Surprisingly, it works pretty well on semi and semi-auto rapid fire. I don't know how durable it is, but I'm going to assume they fired 1000 rounds and it still hasn't broken (2 years after my initial question on YouTube, OP said "it's still going strong.")

He even claims that two 3D printed AR-15 lower receiver models that are still being refined today can fire 1500+ rounds with filament that cost only $4~10 according to OP.

You can read the comments here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdhZ9-bdEfc

But like most of the designs created by the community, it requires a real steel upper receiver commonly bought from gun stores and the internals are all real steel if I'm correct.

There is an AR-15 based 3D printed gun that is 95% plastic but fires 9mm. That would the be Shutty MP-1.

https://3dprint.com/118279/shuty-mp-1-semi-automatic/

Some parts still need to be metal, such as the barrel for example.

But for higher calibre ammo such as 5.56×45mm, only the lower receiver is really 3D printable, and of course, externals/accessories such as the stock and foregrips should be a-okay. I don't know about the RIS/handguard, though. Oh, and the magazine can also be 3D printed as well.

So in a setting like WD2, criminals who 3D print their guns would have to get a bulk of their real steel parts through black market/illegal channels since you need a gun license to purchase firearm parts. And no, using parts from airsoft or paintball is literally impossible. I've seen a homemade gun that used paintball parts on the internet before, but I can't comment on its reliability until breakage. Criminals could probably fabricate their own parts via CNC using 7075 and 6061 aluminums, but I wonder where they would get that kind of metal from? Lower end metals is a possibility, but like I said, "durability and reliability" is questionable.

And according to the game's story/setting, Marcus is convicted of a crime he didn't commit, so it's going to be very hard for him to buy anything firearm related without being caught except for external parts.

If Ubisoft goes full bullocks and ignores what today's 3D firearm printing capabilities can not do then I'm going to laugh my ass off.

And sure, you can print a firearm using high-end plastics used in real steel firearms, but good luck spending a fortune on industrial grade 3D printers. But then again, Marcus can hack into anyone's bank account and he can easily afford an industrial grade 3D printer in no time. :/

Why Ubisoft puts such an emphasis on 3D printed firearms, I don't really understand. I guess they're trying to be hip or something? It's probably a lot more durable and safer if you fabricate a firearm through CNC and welding.

I also forgot to mention the Shutty MP-1 has real big kick/recoil to it according the clip posted in the article above, so good luck with accurate successive fire.

What are everyone's thoughts?

[J4MESOX4D]

Ubisoft don't understand anything of this nature but that doesn't stop them adding features because they think it exists. The game has cars from the 70s, 80's and 90's yet ''all cars can be hacked'' according to the developers which doesn't make reasonable sense based on common sense and logic.

They probably included the 3D printed weapons feature becuase someone at the studio skimmed over an article on BBC News 2 years ago whist highlighted the possibility of this happening.

If they are presenting Watch Dogs 2 as a realistic title as opposed to a fantasy game aimed at teenagers; they've made some grave errors of judgement without any research or regard.

[PocketYoda]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJyf1IrHtcE

Its .45 caliber

[Mysterion]

That is all home made, imagine a multi million dollar US military project?

[/k/ILLDOZER]

Originally posted by DanteYoda:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJyf1IrHtcE

Its .45 caliber

Come on, goyim. That's 3D printed with METAL filament and your average goy can't even afford a 3D printer of that scale and price. You're looking at an INDUSTRIAL GRADE printer right there.

Our Hero can easily buy a printer like that by hacking into people's bank accounts... but the paper work (is paper work even needed to begin with?) needed to own a printer of that size and grade... how is he going to do it?

Of course, he can always purchase one from the Black Market for a lucrative fee from the Mexicans...

Originally posted by J4MESOX4D:

They probably included the 3D printed weapons feature becuase someone at the studio skimmed over an article on BBC News 2 years ago whist highlighted the possibility of this happening.

Remember Goyim, (((BBC))). ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[PocketYoda]

Originally posted by Switch-kun:

Originally posted by DanteYoda:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJyf1IrHtcE

Its .45 caliber

Come on, goyim. That's 3D printed with METAL filament and your average goy can't even afford a 3D printer of that scale and price. You're looking at an INDUSTRIAL GRADE printer right there.

Our Hero can easily buy a printer like that by hacking into people's bank accounts... but the paper work (is paper work even needed to begin with?) needed to own a printer of that size and grade... how is he going to do it?

Of course, he can always purchase one from the Black Market for a lucrative fee from the Mexicans...

Originally posted by J4MESOX4D:

They probably included the 3D printed weapons feature becuase someone at the studio skimmed over an article on BBC News 2 years ago whist highlighted the possibility of this happening.

Remember Goyim, (((BBC))). ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Why would he need to hack money why not just hack the business at the weekend and make his own, that said it may take a good month to make and this ubisoft so reality goes right outta the window..

Either way i don't care as i wont be buying the game, i was just saying its possible.

[Witch ~]

Wait the game is actually going to have 3D printed guns?

[VacBanned ^]

Originally posted by J4MESOX4D:

Ubisoft don't understand anything of this nature but that doesn't stop them adding features because they think it exists. The game has cars from the 70s, 80's and 90's yet ''all cars can be hacked'' according to the developers which doesn't make reasonable sense based on common sense and logic.

They probably included the 3D printed weapons feature becuase someone at the studio skimmed over an article on BBC News 2 years ago whist highlighted the possibility of this happening.

If they are presenting Watch Dogs 2 as a realistic title as opposed to a fantasy game aimed at teenagers; they've made some grave errors of judgement without any research or regard.

3d guns been an thing

[/k/ILLDOZER]

Both trailers suggest we will be able to 3D print weapon upgrades or actual firearms themselves.

@DanteYoda
3D printing takes a while to print... maybe a good 8~12 hours for a lower reciever / lower reciever with fixed stock combo like some of the FOSSCAD designs out there.

I don't really get what you mean by "hack the business at the weekend and make his own." If you mean make your own 3D printer, it's counterproductive to make your own ethusiest grade 3D printer without a team of engineers at your disposal.

And industrial grade 3D printer? Ugh... I rather obtain a blueprint from the Chinese hackers from Mainland China.

If you have a good counter-argument, I'm all ears.

[PocketYoda]

Originally posted by Switch-kun:

Both trailers suggest we will be able to 3D print weapon upgrades or actual firearms themselves.

@DanteYoda
3D printing takes a while to print... maybe a good 8~12 hours for a lower reciever / lower reciever with fixed stock combo like some of the FOSSCAD designs out there.

I don't really get what you mean by "hack the business at the weekend and make his own." If you mean make your own 3D printer, it's counterproductive to make your own ethusiest grade 3D printer without a team of engineers at your disposal.

And industrial grade 3D printer? Ugh... I rather obtain a blueprint from the Chinese hackers from Mainland China.

If you have a good counter-argument, I'm all ears.

Many large businesses have serious industrial 3D printers these days, all he has to do is hack their business software and make his own.. while no one is there.. just saying hes supposedly some op hacker..no need for money..Instantly knows the 3D printing talent

But 3D printing takes ages in reality..

[J4MESOX4D]

Originally posted by Victorious ✔️:

Originally posted by J4MESOX4D:

Ubisoft don't understand anything of this nature but that doesn't stop them adding features because they think it exists. The game has cars from the 70s, 80's and 90's yet ''all cars can be hacked'' according to the developers which doesn't make reasonable sense based on common sense and logic.

They probably included the 3D printed weapons feature becuase someone at the studio skimmed over an article on BBC News 2 years ago whist highlighted the possibility of this happening.

If they are presenting Watch Dogs 2 as a realistic title as opposed to a fantasy game aimed at teenagers; they've made some grave errors of judgement without any research or regard.

3d guns been an thing

I know but the guns just can't be produced willy-nilly by a bunch of hipsters as it sounds farcical especially as it's not quite that simple like the OP outlined. I was merely focusing on how Ubisoft have implemented such features without a care in the world or explaining how they came to be just like the fact you can hack cars from the 1970's.

[Witch ~]

okay that's really dumb

It's almost like the devs heard of it in some silly article and thought it was the next best thing ever building it into the game without informing themself correct just for the sake of being "hype"

[Gordonklepit The Depraved]

In the trailer the devs said it 3D printed metal guns

[Gordonklepit The Depraved]

Originally posted by JDMSTER:

In the trailer the devs said it 3D printed metal guns

Also the organization has 100000000 followers don't you think one or 2 of them may be wealthy and have access to new tech especially in Silicon Valley

[Al Gore]

Originally posted by DanteYoda:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJyf1IrHtcE

Its .45 caliber

That comes out of a big laser-welding machine, not out of the little plastic extrusion machine shown in the trailer. The one shown in the trailer is the kind that can only print .22 guns that break after a few shots.

[FallenDumbledore]

I find it funny that this discussion is talking about the reality of the game.....umm the game isn't suppose to be a reality ....I have yet to see someone use a phone to hack a traffic light and right after doing that , hack a barrier and then hack a camera while blowing up an explosive .....