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Mook 9/dez./2016 às 2:14
Jagged edges on very high settings?
Just wondering what affects this, because its kinda bothering me how jagged everything looks in the city.
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BOT Cecil 9/dez./2016 às 2:17 
Anti-aliasing? Can you post a pic?
Mook 9/dez./2016 às 2:22 
Escrito originalmente por Sl1ngShot:
Anti-aliasing? Can you post a pic?
I mean I have FXAA on, but if I touch multisampling the fps just tanks by 20-30 even on the lowest setting. Should i decrease things from very high to high and try to bump up the normal AA? Also would i have FXAA and normal AA or no?

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=814894029

Its easier to see the jagged lines when moving, because it all kinda flickers at the edge, i guess i could get used to it but its pretty annoying. Maybe it has to do with my display and res? 1080p 27"
It's almost like you've got Temporal Filtering on.
Última edição por OpalinePhantomQueen; 9/dez./2016 às 2:24
Mook 9/dez./2016 às 2:27 
Escrito originalmente por Elcivor:
It's almost like you've got Temporal Filtering on.
Its greyed out for me I cant even put it on lol

So what combo of MMAA and PPMA should I have? Because its weird if i preset it doesnt touch msaa at all
Última edição por Mook; 9/dez./2016 às 2:27
Escrito originalmente por ØniKanji:
Escrito originalmente por Elcivor:
It's almost like you've got Temporal Filtering on.
Its greyed out for me I cant even put it on lol

So what combo of MMAA and PPMA should I have? Because its weird if i preset it doesnt touch msaa at all

Do you have SLI in use by any chance? Because if Temporal Filtering is greyed out, it's most likely that.
But on-topic: I don't have an idea what to do to fix this then.
Blazing Storm 9/dez./2016 às 2:31 
There is no hardware currently out which can do MSAA/TXAA with Ultra/Very High . It tanks your fps by 20 .Also I didnt notice any difference with temporal filtering on or off .What does it even do?

Also Temporal is probably greyed out because you have enabled MSAA or TXAA.You cant use Temporal with MSAA or TXAA on
Mook 9/dez./2016 às 2:32 
Escrito originalmente por Elcivor:
Escrito originalmente por ØniKanji:
Its greyed out for me I cant even put it on lol

So what combo of MMAA and PPMA should I have? Because its weird if i preset it doesnt touch msaa at all

Do you have SLI in use by any chance? Because if Temporal Filtering is greyed out, it's most likely that.
But on-topic: I don't have an idea what to do to fix this then.
Yes I do have SLI, is that a bad thing?
Mook 9/dez./2016 às 2:34 
Escrito originalmente por Blazing Storm:
There is no hardware currently out which can do MSAA/TXAA with Ultra/Very High . It tanks your fps by 20 .Also I didnt notice any difference with temporal filtering on or off .What does it even do?

Also Temporal is probably greyed out because you have enabled MSAA or TXAA.You cant use Temporal with MSAA or TXAA on
Hmmm, I see. I think its greyed out because of SLI. But I am just wondering what the optimal settings are, because every preset and nvidia setting says no MSAA or TXAA but it has the terrible edges. Like even Ultra setting doesnt use MSAA or TXAA?

Thanks for the info though, my last questions would be which is better MSAA or TXAA and also what common settings people use? Like is it best to lower everything else for jagged edges to go away or something? Or do people just tough out the edges lol
Última edição por Mook; 9/dez./2016 às 2:39
SLI at the moment has worse performance in this game somehow than with it off. But when it comes to anti aliasing techniques, most people actually use Pixel Density settings higher than 1, or use Nvidia's DSR.

It basically does the same thing, but the ingame setting is just limited to 25% above your own resolution.

It gives a more crisper image with a little less performance impact than using regular MSAA.

TXAA however is a nice feature (especially since WD2 uses a different version now) but it obviously tanks the performance too much for most people.

So play around with Pixel Density, or force an even higher resolution through Nvidia's DSR.
Blazing Storm 9/dez./2016 às 2:46 
Escrito originalmente por ØniKanji:
Escrito originalmente por Blazing Storm:
There is no hardware currently out which can do MSAA/TXAA with Ultra/Very High . It tanks your fps by 20 .Also I didnt notice any difference with temporal filtering on or off .What does it even do?

Also Temporal is probably greyed out because you have enabled MSAA or TXAA.You cant use Temporal with MSAA or TXAA on
Hmmm, I see. I think its greyed out because of SLI. But I am just wondering what the optimal settings are, because every preset and nvidia setting says no MSAA or TXAA but it has the terrible edges. Like even Ultra setting doesnt use MSAA or TXAA?

Thanks for the info though, my last questions would be which is better MSAA or TXAA and also what common settings people use? Like is it best to lower everything else for jagged edges to go away or something? Or do people just tough out the edges lol
Which cards do you have and what is your CPU?

Ultra setting does not include AA .You have to set ambient occlusion and AA manually.If you want to eliminate all jaggies then TXAA is the best but there is a huge performance drop.I would instead use the resources on PCSS shadows but thats just me
Última edição por Blazing Storm; 9/dez./2016 às 2:46
Mook 9/dez./2016 às 3:03 
Ok, I thought it was fine but it seems at night time it drops to 30 fps ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
Mook 9/dez./2016 às 3:05 
Escrito originalmente por Blazing Storm:
Escrito originalmente por ØniKanji:
Hmmm, I see. I think its greyed out because of SLI. But I am just wondering what the optimal settings are, because every preset and nvidia setting says no MSAA or TXAA but it has the terrible edges. Like even Ultra setting doesnt use MSAA or TXAA?

Thanks for the info though, my last questions would be which is better MSAA or TXAA and also what common settings people use? Like is it best to lower everything else for jagged edges to go away or something? Or do people just tough out the edges lol
Which cards do you have and what is your CPU?

Ultra setting does not include AA .You have to set ambient occlusion and AA manually.If you want to eliminate all jaggies then TXAA is the best but there is a huge performance drop.I would instead use the resources on PCSS shadows but thats just me
What is PCSS exactly? I mean, is this just me or something or wouldnt everyone get jagged edges on the same settings as me?

970's and i7 5930k
Última edição por Mook; 9/dez./2016 às 3:06
FeilDOW 9/dez./2016 às 3:35 
Escrito originalmente por ØniKanji:
Escrito originalmente por Blazing Storm:
Which cards do you have and what is your CPU?

Ultra setting does not include AA .You have to set ambient occlusion and AA manually.If you want to eliminate all jaggies then TXAA is the best but there is a huge performance drop.I would instead use the resources on PCSS shadows but thats just me
What is PCSS exactly? I mean, is this just me or something or wouldnt everyone get jagged edges on the same settings as me?

970's and i7 5930k
I'm on my phone and the screenshot doesn't really look that bad at all even when I zoom in.

It's could look worse for you because you are sitting in front of a 27" 1080p monitor when most run a 22-24" 1080p monitor or 27" 1440p/4K.
Última edição por FeilDOW; 9/dez./2016 às 3:36
Blazing Storm 9/dez./2016 às 3:42 
Escrito originalmente por ØniKanji:
Escrito originalmente por Blazing Storm:
Which cards do you have and what is your CPU?

Ultra setting does not include AA .You have to set ambient occlusion and AA manually.If you want to eliminate all jaggies then TXAA is the best but there is a huge performance drop.I would instead use the resources on PCSS shadows but thats just me
What is PCSS exactly? I mean, is this just me or something or wouldnt everyone get jagged edges on the same settings as me?

970's and i7 5930k
.I told you AA was unusable. Its unplayable even on 1080. Here is the detailed write up and performance analysis
http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/guides/watch-dogs-2-graphics-and-performance-guide#watch-dogs-2-shadows

You have a 27 inch 1080P monitor which lowers the PPI so you could notice more jaggies than me as I have the same resolution on a 24 inch monitor.Hence the image will be sharper for me'


I am on a single 970 and it runs at 40-60 fps at any setting.Lowering or increasing res or settings doesnt affect fps at all
Última edição por Blazing Storm; 9/dez./2016 às 3:43
Drowning witch 9/dez./2016 às 4:06 
use SMAA, use downsampling. create a custom resolution in your nvidia cpanel, like, if you are on 1080p, create 1440p (you can also create any of the inbetween true 16:9 resolutions you find on this list if 1440p is too demanding for you https://pacoup.com/2011/06/12/list-of-true-169-resolutions/ ), stay under 4gb vram with the settings, don't use extra detail sliders or nvidia shadows. start with ultra preset, and adjust stuff up or down, with uncapped fps, till you reach the FPS you want. make sure to do this while driving, don't set your FPS on foot.
Última edição por Drowning witch; 9/dez./2016 às 4:06
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