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Oh boy. Where do i start. The confirmed lists are only rumours because i do not know all the vehicles giants put in fs17 ?
The lists are compiled by hard undeniable evidence and direct information from the developers. You have seen more or less everything on the fanmade lists IN GAME videos. JCB and holmer are real life brands. What do you want them to do ? make their own futuristic tractors so we get something new ?
Do you honestly think the trailer from CnC is not been improved upon and that its pure gameplay ? If you say that farming sim 17 will look nothing like the trailers, guess what. Neither will CnC. CnC is soon as overhyped in the farming game community as no mans sky was. See how well that turned out.
What i have said about mods,mm apparently you havent been paying attention to anything ive wrote at all. I never said that mods doesnt work. I have over 150 mods in my game. What i have said is that you can't compare a modded fs15 to a unmodded fs17. Cause that would be unfair. Thats all ive said about mods. Drive control and terrain and dirt control is not great mods. They are still better than FE17's ground physics.
You say here again and again that i am a FS fanboy. Thats up to you, but you are wrong. I don't give one ♥♥♥♥ about giants and if CnC or pure farming turns out to be the better game. Then i will play them without looking back to fs.
The reason i write all i have in this forum is because of people like you saying that there is nothing new, its just copy paste and as late as today, they lists are rumours and they are lying hurrdurr.. Even tho you have 100% legit solid evidence that everything on the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lists are in the game. Yet, you deny it. Undeniable evidense and you just ignore them. I guess you believe the earth is flat aswell and that Trump is just a lizard in disguise.
I hope that CnC is a great game. But its almost worth it to be worse than proffessional farming, just to see your face.
i still don't think your seeing the whole point me and many others a saying in regaurds of copy and paste.
The termCopy and paste in words today can mean more than taking a mouse on a pc and highlighting something then paste it some where. It can also mean that I see something you have done (copy) and then use it as my own (paste). We see this term used every day by people in this type of matter.
I know some say that CnC has just copied and pasted to. And in some way yes they have as its also a farm sim game. But since CnC has never released a game, so we can't say CnC has copied from the last game or mod for that game as none are avalible.
Saying that its unfair that you can't compare a modded fs15 to a unmodded fs17 is dumb as hell! If it was a mod in a previous game and the dev used as a new feature in the next game it still the same this. If I take a tire of a used car and put it on a new car, does that make that tire new? Of couse not. Its called sugar coating a old cookie.
I can asure you that CnC's trailer is strait from the alpha game. The launch trailer from FS17 was a CGI trailer and not from the actual game. I never said that the trailers from the FS17 game were change to look better.
Unless your with the FS tean in some way or just a fanboy, there is no reason to prop up FS17 or defend it. Its just another FS game made by the same dev who makes more money selling it. Do you always defend and prop up things you have never used?
Do you always put down or berate a product you have never used?
They have made a successfull game, fs15. Why would they not take what works in that game and put it into the new one ? At the end of the day. They are making games to make money. Nothing else. You don't try a lot of new things when you already have a product that works and is a good earner. This is the same for more or less every game series. Fifa, Call of duty, battlefield and the lsit goes on. There is a reason why they are doing it.
When you have fs15. You have downloaded mods for 2 years. Then a new game comes out. Fs17. Then no. You can't go there and say "hurrdurr my fs15 got more content than 17. Because guess what. Your fs17 with 2 years of mods will have more and better content than your modded fs15. And that is what i am talking about. Not taking mods from the previous game and putting them in. Which they have and i can guarantee you the quality is better. Look at the dynamic heaps you get in fs17 compared to the tip anywhere mod. The one they have added is miles better than the mod. And the same goes for everything. Its implemented with the same quality as the rest of the game. Not many modders manage to get that quality in their mods. A few, but not many.
And no. I do not always defend stuff ive never used. I hardly ever do it. But the thing is. On this forum, there have been so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ many idiotic statements that is 100% wrong. And they bash the game for reasons that doesn't exist. And then i come in to make it right.
You said it yourself way back. That we wouldnt get straps to strap down stuff. I said it was confirmed and suddenly i was the idiot and the fanboy. And look now who was correct. For the second time. This is just _1_ example.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/447020/discussions/0/350543951938263798/