Oilseed radishes worth using?

[bocner1]

i was wondering if anyone knows if planting oilseed radish is worth using or should i just stick with regular fertilizer?

[Acies Zenora]

I would like to know as well because personally I don't see the point in using oilseed radish rather than using other fertilizer.

[Willow Rivers]

Just for realism and preference. It just adds 30% for one of the fertilization steps. If you want to be a green farm and use all natural fertilization it is one step you can use to do it.

[bocner1]

that makes sense

[Thyriel]

It's also a nice option for 3 step fertilization so you can have 3rd fertilization right after seeding what you want to grow and don't need to care again until it's fully grown.

[Frutz]

I don't think it's worth it. One it's exchanging fertilizer for seeds, it's also adding more time inbetween harvests. You're also using one of your slowest methods especially early game with the cultivator as a swap for an otherwise fast method of fertilizing. If you're hiring a worker to do this that means you're goign to be paying more wages and you're going to be accruing more hours on the implements used.

[Ferrus]

If you use the radish method as well as a combi seeder like the pronto then you really never need any other method. you can plant the radish and fertilise when you do so, and when the crop is grown you can plant whatever crop and also fertilize again while digging in the radish basically doing it twice in one go

[t4chy]

and radish seed seems to be very efficient, at least until you got manure and slurry from your own animals.

[Tard Wrangler]

It adds 4-6 hours onto your days work cycle though and the harvest will be ready that much later the next day, that is the down side.
this will be up in an hour or so, explains it...
https://youtu.be/1_wiQ931xVI

[Greenman]

I tested it and noted that you cannot fertilise further after you chop the tops off the oilseeds, so where you would have 3x30% fert stages in this you only get 1x30%. I guess this because it becomes dark blue on the fert map and you cannot further fert it.

Correct me if I am wrong but this is a massive loss in time and yield?

[Frutz]

Originally posted by Ferrus:

If you use the radish method as well as a combi seeder like the pronto then you really never need any other method. you can plant the radish and fertilise when you do so, and when the crop is grown you can plant whatever crop and also fertilize again while digging in the radish basically doing it twice in one go

Let me see if I get this correct, you're saying you get 3/3 fert from using pronto seeder/drill to plant it and then after it grows stage 1 to plant your actual crop?

My understanding of fertilizing is that you are only able to fert once per stage, so you get the first fertilizer when you plant the radish, then you get the second once you cultivate it. I can see the 2/3 but where I am struggling to figure out is how it goes to 3/3 because the ground is already fertilized for that stage once the radish is cultivated so that would negate the on board fertilizer for the planting of your actual crop requiring you to still fertilize after the next growth stage.

Is this actually verified to be 3/3 or are people assuming based on theory?

[Jayshua_Lyn]

Originally posted by BG79:

Originally posted by Ferrus:

If you use the radish method as well as a combi seeder like the pronto then you really never need any other method. you can plant the radish and fertilise when you do so, and when the crop is grown you can plant whatever crop and also fertilize again while digging in the radish basically doing it twice in one go

Let me see if I get this correct, you're saying you get 3/3 fert from using pronto seeder/drill to plant it and then after it grows stage 1 to plant your actual crop?

My understanding of fertilizing is that you are only able to fert once per stage, so you get the first fertilizer when you plant the radish, then you get the second once you cultivate it. I can see the 2/3 but where I am struggling to figure out is how it goes to 3/3 because the ground is already fertilized for that stage once the radish is cultivated so that would negate the on board fertilizer for the planting of your actual crop requiring you to still fertilize after the next growth stage.

Is this actually verified to be 3/3 or are people assuming based on theory?

Yeah. 3/3 Verifed. I saw it happening.

1/3 Fert with Radishes planting
2/3 Cultivating Radishes
3/3 Fert with your New Seeds

[Supra]

Originally posted by Murder Boner:

I tested it and noted that you cannot fertilise further after you chop the tops off the oilseeds, so where you would have 3x30% fert stages in this you only get 1x30%. I guess this because it becomes dark blue on the fert map and you cannot further fert it.

Correct me if I am wrong but this is a massive loss in time and yield?

It is a time increase however it is not a loss in yield, do not fertilize the radishes. If you use them, once you seed over them with a normal crop you can fert again. It is almost a free fertilization step, it barely uses seed compared to normal crops so it is fairly cost efficient.

[Frutz]

Originally posted by joshmiller83:

Originally posted by BG79:

Let me see if I get this correct, you're saying you get 3/3 fert from using pronto seeder/drill to plant it and then after it grows stage 1 to plant your actual crop?

My understanding of fertilizing is that you are only able to fert once per stage, so you get the first fertilizer when you plant the radish, then you get the second once you cultivate it. I can see the 2/3 but where I am struggling to figure out is how it goes to 3/3 because the ground is already fertilized for that stage once the radish is cultivated so that would negate the on board fertilizer for the planting of your actual crop requiring you to still fertilize after the next growth stage.

Is this actually verified to be 3/3 or are people assuming based on theory?

Yeah. 3/3 Verifed. I saw it happening.

1/3 Fert with Radishes planting
2/3 Cultivating Radishes
3/3 Fert with your New Seeds

Well, i'll take your word for it. Seems like a bug though with you not supposed to be able to fertilize more than once on the same stage. If it stays though I can certainly see it being worthwhile then with the pronto seeder. I know on the map I am playing on "silvercrest" hired workers are not properly fertilizing but they can seed/cultivate just fine.

In the case of this you're just doing two total passes with a 9meter seeder and getting 3/3 fert, not bad provided you got the 270hp capable tractor to pull that seeder.

[Thyriel]

Originally posted by Supra:

Originally posted by Murder Boner:

I tested it and noted that you cannot fertilise further after you chop the tops off the oilseeds, so where you would have 3x30% fert stages in this you only get 1x30%. I guess this because it becomes dark blue on the fert map and you cannot further fert it.

Correct me if I am wrong but this is a massive loss in time and yield?

It is a time increase however it is not a loss in yield, do not fertilize the radishes. If you use them, once you seed over them with a normal crop you can fert again. It is almost a free fertilization step, it barely uses seed compared to normal crops so it is fairly cost efficient.

You can even get the whole fertilizing for free (or 2/3 if you want one step lesser with the big cultivator/seed/fertilizer all on one machine) if you use the big harroweeder as it fertilizes and plants oilseeds plus it can fertilize without seeding. Only downside is then that you need to use a seperate cultivator so have you these steps:
- cultivator or plow
- harroweeder + oilseeds (+1 fertilize)
- cultivator + seed + fertilizer combi (2nd and 3rd fertilizing in one)

(optional last step was only cultivator+seed and you want all 3 fertilizers for free)
- harroweeder without seeding

But, i think it's a bug that you can use the harroweeder as often as you like for fertilizing regardless of the growing state like every other fertilizer. At least it's description says it works only in 1st grow stage.

[caseydwilder]

The big use for them would be with the crop destruction mode. Since you're capable of getting all three sessions in before your final crop even sprouts, you don't have to worry about any destruction while fertilizing. That is one advantage I see in it.