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rottielover 2018 年 10 月 4 日 下午 11:49
Seasons: Bad year?
Is my seasons mod messed up or is it possible to get a “bad year”?

I’m playing on the Abandond Forest map, apparently nortorius for its harsh GEO. My first year I waited all spring and the ground never thawed. First day of summer the ground thawed out and I had 3 days to get the corn in. Did so but at the time didn’t notice the soil temps. When the crop popped up it was in the harvested state. The soil temps never got high enough for corn all summer long ??

Seems pretty odd. My snow disappeared in the winter in this map and now this...
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dogwalker1 2018 年 10 月 5 日 上午 5:21 
I've just started experimenting with this map... I'm not completely in a position to answer your question, but I have come to the conclusion that on this map you should pretty much stick to 'winter crops' (wheat, barley, canola), and not expect to get a harvest in the 1st year.
rottielover 2018 年 10 月 5 日 下午 12:01 
Might be right. Turns out the let’s play I have been watching on YouTube stated in a later video that he was issuing a different Geo than the one built into the map. I had just thought I’d try and replicate what he was doing but that attempt basically killed me.

I spent the entirety of winter and spring logging and clearing and stockpiling equipment before the ice layer went away (way easier to get stuff up there to the farm). Basically a week of real time playing for me

When it got to be the last day of spring right before the ice went away I went all in on the bank of h mod and took out a 400g loan, now I’m -50g plus owing the loan with a totally failed crop.

I’m going to seed grass real quick and start logging again and selling equipment to hope I stay afloat but I set myself back a couple years on a gamble that didn’t pay off.

I LOVE THIS MAP!!!
dogwalker1 2018 年 10 月 5 日 下午 12:35 
Yep, it's a beauty! I plan to get back to it after a little more time on Oakfield Farm (some business there I want to finish before really getting into this one).

Consider investing in a snowblower attachment if you haven't already. (eg: mod: "Biobeltz SB300 Snowblower" - sorry, don't recall where I downloaded that one from.) Rather painstaking work clearing the road with it, but then you can get up to the farm or to good logging areas earlier, without too much of a substantial cash outlay.
最后由 dogwalker1 编辑于; 2018 年 10 月 5 日 下午 12:39
rottielover 2018 年 10 月 5 日 下午 12:45 
For reasons I still haven’t figured out my snow disappeared on day 2 and the only snow I got after that accumulated in tippers or buckets. I was going to see if next winter I get snow on the ground or not. If not I might have to restart my game, which would entirely suck cause it took me days and days of real time play clearing and logging
rottielover 2018 年 10 月 5 日 下午 12:48 
Anyway now that I think about it I’ll probably do oilseed radish so I can grab an extra fert state before I can try to plant wheat again
dogwalker1 2018 年 10 月 5 日 下午 1:18 
On my trial run I ran the game at mostly 120x until the snow was all gone... did not see the issue you mention with the snow disappearing - no idea what happened there.

Regarding the oilseed radish, you'll be waiting a long time for the soil to reach germination temp (7C or 45F)... do you know it even will? I didn't run the map long enough to see. Even if it does you may risk the soil then dropping to below germination temp for any cash winter crop before you have the chance to plant it (which, if I understand Seasons, you would then lose if it hadn't started to grow before the ground freezes). I may be wrong of course.
最后由 dogwalker1 编辑于; 2018 年 10 月 5 日 下午 1:20
rottielover 2018 年 10 月 5 日 下午 1:26 
In the summer my soil temp hit low 50’s F. But like I said even though I planted the last day of planting season (still inside the window), it took forever for the the soil temps to hit over 45 ?germ temp) anyway.

I *think* that because it didn’t warm up in time that’s why it sprung up in the harvested state.

So I might have no choice but to go with grass and produce silage to attempt to recover
dogwalker1 2018 年 10 月 5 日 下午 1:38 
You've touched on one detail I'm not clear on about seasons: does the soil temp have to be warm enough for germination at any point in the sub-season (like day 1 of 3) for growth to occur, the whole sub-season, or does it have to be there the last day before the growth trigger (ie: day 3 of 3)?
rottielover 2018 年 10 月 5 日 下午 3:12 
afraid I don't know. In this case it's the first time I've ever had a crop failure before for me (inoright)... And my planting season never got high enough soil temps...

I ASSUME that it's just a trigger, meaning that if your soil temp is ever = or > then it triggers the growth.

If that is the case then my crop failure is because the soil temp was always < temp for the whole of planting season, When it changed over to summer and the soil warmed to temp, it was then "out of season" and the mod killed the crop....

Can anyone confirm that assesment? Or did I screw up my seasons game somwhere along the way, I just today learned that I'm not supposed to be using the CTRL+R mod to fast forward nights but instead use ALT +N (I think that's it) to tell seasons to skip the night..... learn somethign new all the time!
Sandhill 2018 年 10 月 5 日 下午 6:30 
From the Seasons Manual, italics mine:
"The growth happens at midnight when there is a change in transition (change between early, mid, late). The growth is distributed between planting and harvesting and since most crops have only 4 visible growing growth stages there can be several transitions between each time you see crops growing.
Winter will wither certain crops grass will be knocked back to stage 2 in the winter. If you plant crops in a transition that is not within the planting window in the calendar, it will die. Another factor which determines whether your crops will germinate is the germination temperature of crops and the current soil temperature. The germination temperature for all crops can be seen in the Seasons menu and the current soil temperature is shown in the HUD. If the soil temperature if below the germination temperature, then the sown crops will not germinate. They will not die though as long as you are within the planting window. For example, spring barley has a planting window of early, mid and late spring. So, if you plant barley in early spring, but the soil temperature is too low, it will only grow in mid or late spring, or in the worst case, in early summer."

I take this to mean that the ungerminated crop will not die due to soil temperature as long as you planted it during a planting window. It will remain dormant until 12:01 am on the first day of a new (early, mid, or late) "transition" when the soil temp has risen to the required germination temperature, so you need both day 1 of a transition period and passing the temp test for the crop to germinate.
The crop then needs enough growth transitions to become harvestable before winter instantly withers it, so if the first transition that meets the termp test is the transition to winter, it essentially germinates as withered. Seems a bit far fetched, but if the soil temp did not get high enough until during late fall, it would explain the corn popping up in the harvested state.
I suppose a harsh enough GEO could do that...
最后由 Sandhill 编辑于; 2018 年 10 月 5 日 下午 6:39
rottielover 2018 年 10 月 5 日 下午 6:41 
OK so here's my situation... ON this map's Geo planting season for Corn is days 1-3 of Summer. I saved this game on Day 4 of summer. It's 07:24, and Corn says it needs 50F to germinate. My soil temp is 41 F.

Fastforwarding
rottielover 2018 年 10 月 5 日 下午 6:42 
Day 5 of summer at noon the soil temps hit 45 F Corn still says "seeded" fastforwarding....
rottielover 2018 年 10 月 5 日 下午 6:43 
Noon day 6 soil temps still 45, even though air temps are now in the high 60's and it's sunny. I'm suspecting that I bugged out my map early on in my game (I accidently removed seasons at one point and put it back)
Sandhill 2018 年 10 月 5 日 下午 6:44 
As long as you planted during days 1-3 of summer it should just hang dormant until the first transition (not necessarily day) when the soil temp is highh enough,
rottielover 2018 年 10 月 5 日 下午 6:45 
Day 7 and the soil temp is still 45, my corn just popped directly into the harvested state, soil temps never hit the germination temp of 50...

So either this geo is messed up, the map savegame is messed up, or the seasons documentation is not correct because if I am reading that right then this never should pop until the temp hits 50. In other words the way that doc reads as long as you seed in the proper time, the seeds will remain dormant, even over winter, until the soil temps hit the correct temp... ? correct??
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