Is Grimnir...(Spoilers)

[Whitman1855]

Odin?

[Cao Cao Mengde]

Yup. It's the classic story of Odin as the wandering traveller.

[Time Crowdfunding for Elder]

Yep. If you read into Norse mythology, you will see the connection how Odin likes to pull that wandering traveller thing. I thought it was going to be a Gandalf reference because of the Grimnir picture lol.

[Whitman1855]

Also is Kyre Freyja

[IgnoreSandra]

Yeah. Like, obviously Odin or Wodan. Of course, it's also possible he's just a random traveler and your character is prone to nervous breakdowns in their dreams.

Something I respected in Conquistador that seems to be holding steady here: The game is staying quiet on whether or not stuff is explicitly supernatural.

[Dissonant]

Tangentially related question: if you kill the scouts does your uncle still die? I mean we're talking about the guy who shows up, talks to you about the gods and then you wake up in Hel right? So if you're uncle isn't dead is someone else in there to give you a lesson about consequences?

[AnneFrankFanfiction]

Originally posted by BurningLegion:

Yeah. Like, obviously Odin or Wodan. Of course, it's also possible he's just a random traveler and your character is prone to nervous breakdowns in their dreams.

Something I respected in Conquistador that seems to be holding steady here: The game is staying quiet on whether or not stuff is explicitly supernatural.

...in Conquistador you could meet walking, talking gods that were able to do magic like vanishing/appearing out of thin air or killing a single person out of a group by pointing at them.

[AnneFrankFanfiction]

Originally posted by Dissonant:

Tangentially related question: if you kill the scouts does your uncle still die? I mean we're talking about the guy who shows up, talks to you about the gods and then you wake up in Hel right? So if you're uncle isn't dead is someone else in there to give you a lesson about consequences?

Sometimes, but I'm 99% sure it's a bug. On my first time through I killed them and met him much later in the village where he explained he had somehow deduced their purpose and thanked me with a chainmail shirt. On my second playthrough I killed them but they still killed him, somehow.

I wasn't aware that he takes Grimnir's place in your dreams if he dies.

[Whitman1855]

Originally posted by BurningLegion:

Yeah. Like, obviously Odin or Wodan. Of course, it's also possible he's just a random traveler and your character is prone to nervous breakdowns in their dreams.

Something I respected in Conquistador that seems to be holding steady here: The game is staying quiet on whether or not stuff is explicitly supernatural.

I know that Odin's later depictions were that of an old man with a large brimed grey cap, carrying a spear (also the one eye thing). But Rig/Heimdall was also a traveler, as is told in the Norse myth about the birth of their caste sytem. So I wasn't 100% sure. lol

[Dissonant]

Originally posted by TrumpenReich:

Originally posted by Dissonant:

Tangentially related question: if you kill the scouts does your uncle still die? I mean we're talking about the guy who shows up, talks to you about the gods and then you wake up in Hel right? So if you're uncle isn't dead is someone else in there to give you a lesson about consequences?

Sometimes, but I'm 99% sure it's a bug. On my first time through I killed them and met him much later in the village where he explained he had somehow deduced their purpose and thanked me with a chainmail shirt. On my second playthrough I killed them but they still killed him, somehow.

I wasn't aware that he takes Grimnir's place in your dreams if he dies.

He doesn't take his place but he does show up in addition to. IIRC Odin said something about this place being populated by the innocents that die because of your actions, ie it's a lesson or whatever but it seems somewhat self-undermining if there's no one there to illustrate. Which is why I wondered whether nuncle would wind up dead regardless of what you do with the scouts.

Good to know he doesn't, necessarilly. Probably still going to let him die though, feels like a good lesson and gives my character more reason to hate Skule.

[AnneFrankFanfiction]

Originally posted by Dissonant:

Originally posted by TrumpenReich:

Sometimes, but I'm 99% sure it's a bug. On my first time through I killed them and met him much later in the village where he explained he had somehow deduced their purpose and thanked me with a chainmail shirt. On my second playthrough I killed them but they still killed him, somehow.

I wasn't aware that he takes Grimnir's place in your dreams if he dies.

He doesn't take his place but he does show up in addition to. IIRC Odin said something about this place being populated by the innocents that die because of your actions, ie it's a lesson or whatever but it seems somewhat self-undermining if there's no one there to illustrate. Which is why I wondered whether nuncle would wind up dead regardless of what you do with the scouts.

Good to know he doesn't, necessarilly. Probably still going to let him die though, feels like a good lesson and gives my character more reason to hate Skule.

Ah, okay. When I went there no named characters were present besides Grimnir and myself. I wonder if there's anyone else who can end up there.

[liVetoair]

Originally posted by The Mogician:

Yep. If you read into Norse mythology, you will see the connection how Odin likes to pull that wandering traveller thing. I thought it was going to be a Gandalf reference because of the Grimnir picture lol.

Griminir is actually one of the many names Odin uses throughout norse mythology. This particular one is used in the Grímnismál, an epic poem found in the Poetic Edda.

[vimundr]

I'm curious as to why Odin is willing to give that lesson about the innocents at all. It is not like he should care. He is after all the god of deceit and carnage, he eagerly welcomes fallen heroes to his hall, and even had Freya incite wars so that more of these warriors would perish at the time of their prime.

[Feudal_OrganTrader]

Grimmnir is another name of Odin, so yep he is 100% Odin

[Slim Shady]

Originally posted by Whitman1855:

Odin?

Noooo its Gandalf cant you all see... >.<

[Slim Shady]

Originally posted by atreju:

I'm curious as to why Odin is willing to give that lesson about the innocents at all. It is not like he should care. He is after all the god of deceit and carnage, he eagerly welcomes fallen heroes to his hall, and even had Freya incite wars so that more of these warriors would perish at the time of their prime.

Its like saying Hitler didn care about germany because he was the BAD man :P