Going Viking stinks, gimps your chars.

[deadsanta]

I just tried a viking playthrough after completing an "alliance" power game, and it just blows. From the very first town you get to, I ally with the Mercian traders and spare the nuns while robin hooding their hoarded gold, but that locks scarborough down, everyone attacks me on approach. That means no SP for:
Corpse quest
Father's expedition quest (the NPC is gone)
Wreckers quest
Poet from Lady Favors
and probably more that chain from there through Northumbria, because my rep went to -50. That's a lot of SP, and there's very few to be made up in Orkenjar (sp? whatever), and I didn't see much in my previous playthrough that justifies throwing away like 100 SP by locking out Northumbria and Scarborough.

Can someone who's completed viking side and trade/alliance weigh in here? I'm not really interested in a content-less playthrough.

[Armin]

You talk a lot of SP... besides the Wrecker Quest nothing is worth SP on the Coast. And what you do there doesnt change much of York i believe...

[Slim Shady]

all you get locked out of is wearth in the woods quest( you can still find out about your fathers expedition). you cant do wreckers(you mean peeps who diddmed the lights right ?) since you already solved the issue by helping mercians. What do you need SP for anyways game is easy as ♥♥♥♥ ?;p You overthink too much love ;p

[JurgenJuggernaut]

Yeah im with you deathsanta
If you attack the village (Viking path)
-You lose around 6 mission in town as you said, that translate in a lot of sp
-You lose the oportunity to get another companion
+6000 gold

(this should be balanced maybe by giving sp after each battle, correct me if im wrong but as far I know sp is not given here)

If you are nice and so (merchant path)
-You lose around 6000 gold
+1 Companion
+Sp

But I believe there is a way around not very nice but still there is, side with the village do theyre quests and then exit town do the quests of york and then pillage the monasteries.
This way I believe you get:
+6000 gold (plus gold of quests another things)
+1 Companion
+ Sp for the misions
-You miss killing the villagers and the villager chief

There is 1 Thing I want to know, If we help Northumbrians king do we alliance with them? so If I want to conquer them just have to fail or not do his quest?

[deadsanta]

Originally posted by Slim Shady:

all you get locked out of is wearth in the woods quest( you can still find out about your fathers expedition). you cant do wreckers(you mean peeps who diddmed the lights right ?) since you already solved the issue by helping mercians. What do you need SP for anyways game is easy as ♥♥♥♥ ?;p You overthink too much love ;p

No, everyone in village attacks me on approach, I get -50 north faction and maybe my diplo is too low. But there are 3-4 other quests in Scarborough alone, and this all happens if you choose to do the "right" thing by helping the Mercians, which is kind of messed up.

If I'm wrong, educate me, walk me through the way I help the mercians and go viking without locking myself out of a lot of SP, and content. It just doesn't seem like there's nearly as much there for a viking as for a peaceful explorer, which was unexpected to me.

[Slim Shady]

YEah mayb its the diplomacy then ;p I have it high ;p and When I went to York I was accused of robbing the Convent but I told them Noooo it was the MERCIANS!!!! ^^ and they belived :P and my reputations went back up ;p

I dont know what other quests than the ones you and me mentiond do you mean ?
Like I said you cant do the Wearth in the woods, and you cant help villagers with the poor family who causes trouble, all the rest of the quests will still work fine. You can talk to the poet and you can follow your fathers expedition trail, You can still do quests in york and all. Also I think you can all the way thru pretend to be a peaceful trader and if you gather 100 power you can still betray your alliance after you win the war for whichever the country you went with.

Edit: YEs Mayor and VIllagers will attack you but they dont include Poet :P

[Slim Shady]

Originally posted by JurgenJuggernaut:

There is 1 Thing I want to know, If we help Northumbrians king do we alliance with them? so If I want to conquer them just have to fail or not do his quest?

No you can still attack them afterwards.

[buchecker]

Originally posted by JurgenJuggernaut:

Yeah im with you deathsanta
If you attack the village (Viking path)
-You lose around 6 mission in town as you said, that translate in a lot of sp
-You lose the oportunity to get another companion
+6000 gold

You can still get the companion even when attacking the monastery. Not sure if a bug/oversight or working as intended tho.

[Slim Shady]

Originally posted by buchecker:

Originally posted by JurgenJuggernaut:

Slash

You can still get the companion even when attacking the monastery. Not sure if a bug/oversight or working as intended tho.

Yeah you can still froce the monk to follow you, its intended :P

[IlluminaZero]

The Monk has dialogue - The nuns don't have justification for not offering the stranded traders refuge and forcing them into banditry. Secondly the bandits or Monk (perhaps both?) request/demand that you don't kill any of the nuns when assaulting the monastary.

I actually consider it the most moral way of approaching this quest. The only reason I don't is to politk my relations with the natives for a later monastary invasion.

[radkar2]

Killed everyone - the village, the Mercians, the nuns... Was still able to do Father's expedition and question the Poet, as well as complete the Northumbrian questline. From what I see here you only lose a couple of quests, that's not much. As for the monk - I never missed him after Ketill had put an arrow into his brain.