Linux Lamp Artefacts

[Thornok]

… on all tables lights on the playboard have artefacts with amd rx 5600, 5500 … these are new cards and drivers are up to date :)

[Sorthious]

I'm seeing graphics artifacts on all tables and not just around lights. Im on an rx5700xt btw. 1st time I've played in a long while. I remember long ago it took like 3 months to get a bug fixed last time. IIRC, it was lamps weren't working properly on Linux, and it made the games unplayable. Hopefully, it won't take long to get a fix. Guess I'll head back to FX3.

Linux Mint 20 ulyana
Ryzen 5 3600(6-C/12T(3.6-4.2GHz))
32gigs DDR4-3600MHz
Radeon RX5700XT-8gigs DDR-6(OpenGL 4.6, Mesa 21.1.0-devel)
Asrock Phantom Gaming x570
HP EX920 NVME M.2 (AVG 2.6Gb/s read time) 256G
ADATA SSD 240G

[Thornok]

seems to affect AMD only; the game however is still in early access :)

[Sorthious]

Originally posted by DarnoK:

seems to affect AMD only; the game however is still in early access :)

Yeah, that's what I was told last time I filed a bug report. It's been in Early Access for 4 1/2 years. They can just leave it in early access indefinitely and anytime someone complains that the game isn't working correctly, they can point to the early access designation. "What did you expect? The game is still in early access!" Anyway, maybe you won't have to wait months on end to get the game fixed. Another issue, I think I noticed it yesterday, was that there was a delay when I nudged a table. It happened almost a second after I hit the button, which in pinball can be costly. I would have to play a bit more to make sure.

[Thornok]

yes it's in early access since always :)

Linux might not be the most polupar gaming-platform but it used to work once.

[Sorthious]

Originally posted by DarnoK:

yes it's in early access since always :)

Linux might not be the most polupar gaming-platform but it used to work once.

I hear ya. I've been using LInux(various distros) exclusively for 5+years now. I only use Win when I'm trying to fix someones PC. Gaming is getting very good on Linux, and will only get better. We just need more companies to start supporting native Linux games. Steam has done a lot with Proton/Wine to work around incompatibilities.

[Thornok]

OpenGL & AMD is still no good experience however some games use Vulkan already and there performance is twice as fast compared to OpenGL.

Maybe they should switch to Vulkan too.

[Sorthious]

Originally posted by DarnoK:

OpenGL & AMD is still no good experience however some games use Vulkan already and there performance is twice as fast compared to OpenGL.

Maybe they should switch to Vulkan too.

I don't think Vulkan will make much difference on mid to higher end PC's, but might help with minimum requirements. I get a steady 195FPS(if I didn't put a limit on it I was getting 800+FPS and it was really overkill and puts an unnecessary strain on my GPU.) They just need to fix bugs like this. I also notice that sometimes a flipper won't respond(at the worst times too). I really hate the nudging on this game, as sometimes it doesn't do anything. When you nudge, the magnets do double duty and the nudging has no, or opposite, effect on the ball. So, basically, your whole game is dependent on how much the game wants to drain the ball. This, to me, isn't skill based pinball. It's a combination of skill and luck.

[Thornok]

no i tell you, vulkan is twice as fast.
i always use V-sync at 60 fps, also Vulkan is the future.

opengl and amd is a real disaster, still.

[Sorthious]

Originally posted by DarnoK:

no i tell you, vulkan is twice as fast.
i always use V-sync at 60 fps, also Vulkan is the future.

opengl and amd is a real disaster, still.

Vulkan is good, but it isn't twice as fast as OpenGL. You may find some instances which show Vulkan soundly beating OpenGL, but, from what I've seen that isn't the norm. In many games Vulkan does better, but not by a whole lot. CPU usage is generally lower using Vulkan API though. The Vulkan API has lower overhead than OpenGL. Go onto YouTube and you can watch some benchmarks that compare OpenGL/Vulkan.

[Thornok]

yes it is here on my system on Linux with AMD and OpenGl.
yes look it up on youtube and you will find these benchmarks.

it blows OpenGL out of the water.

for Pinball it might not be that important but for other games it is and there are a few Vulkan games for Linux.

Older OpenGL games still drop to 20-30 fps from time to time.


that's just the way it is.

[Thornok]

20 to 30 fps drops for olders games it simply bad.

also Vulkan games stay at stable 60 fps.



just to be clear, Vulkan is not just another OpenGL version.
it has a different design for many cores.

[Sorthious]

Originally posted by DarnoK:

20 to 30 fps drops for olders games it simply bad.

also Vulkan games stay at stable 60 fps.



just to be clear, Vulkan is not just another OpenGL version.
it has a different design for many cores.

Ok. I know what Vulkan is. I also know what OpenGL ES is.

[Thornok]

also Valve supports the development of Zink (if i am correct), which is an OpenGL implementation that is built on top of Vulkan. I've spent a lot of time with this because Vulkan was so much faster …

i've tried Zink but it's not quite ready yet for primetime.

[Thornok]

also the new update did not fix anything.

just another proof that gaming on Linux … well :/

[Sorthious]

Originally posted by DarnoK:

also the new update did not fix anything.

just another proof that gaming on Linux … well :/

Gaming on Linux?! The game was working on Linux. The problem is the programming, not Linux. Write a bug riddled program on any OS and see if it works properly.