R.I.P. my win rate

[Knightmær]

Probably not just mine, many people have their win rate taken by noobs who has high tier tanks but doesn't know how to use them. And heck sometimes I thought I am still playing with bots.

Come here and share with me your opinion on win rates, does it matter? Or is it just a statistic to make you as a player look good?

[Catweazle]

Win rate matters!
Of course, there are other factors, like collected mastery badges, ratios like kills/death and the ranking in e.g. blitzstars. But a decent player with 10k+ battles, should have a win rate over 50%, because he can turn a battle around or deal huge damage or... you name it.
While player with low win rates, for example 45% and below, can perform great in a battle, but in most cases they do not.

[carelessjet2]

Catweazle a écrit :

Win rate matters!
Of course, there are other factors, like collected mastery badges, ratios like kills/death and the ranking in e.g. blitzstars. But a decent player with 10k+ battles, should have a win rate over 50%, because he can turn a battle around or deal huge damage or... you name it.
While player with low win rates, for example 45% and below, can perform great in a battle, but in most cases they do not.

thank you for bringing up the last part.
i have a lifetime win rate of 40% with over 10k battles. win rate alone tells you vary little. for me i used too play this game with a ping of 700 on a good day. my winrate was crushed by lag, "not that i'd know i'd only ever played with high ping". 7000 battles in i had a winrate of 34% and fixing my winrate is just impossible now.
i do know how too play, but looking at my stats you would never know it.

if you are wondering about a player use blitz stars, and go by 30day avg.

[Catweazle]

carelessjet2 a écrit :

i have a lifetime win rate of 40% with over 10k battles. win rate alone tells you vary little. for me i used too play this game with a ping of 700 on a good day. my winrate was crushed by lag, "not that i'd know i'd only ever played with high ping". 7000 battles in i had a winrate of 34% and fixing my winrate is just impossible now.

just to make sure that i understand you, for thousands of battles you were playing with such a high ping, that you could not provide your part to your teams success? And now, where your 30, 60 and 90 days victory rate is under 50%, you complain about still be recognized as a bad player?

[carelessjet2]

Catweazle a écrit :

carelessjet2 a écrit :

i have a lifetime win rate of 40% with over 10k battles. win rate alone tells you vary little. for me i used too play this game with a ping of 700 on a good day. my winrate was crushed by lag, "not that i'd know i'd only ever played with high ping". 7000 battles in i had a winrate of 34% and fixing my winrate is just impossible now.

just to make sure that i understand you, for thousands of battles you were playing with such a high ping, that you could not provide your part to your teams success? And now, where your 30, 60 and 90 days victory rate is under 50%, you complain about still be recognized as a bad player?

yes that's what im saying.
i still tier jump playing way too many tanks in a day, that's bad.
as far as ping yes that is also true. i don't live in a city, i have never had high speed internet before so i had no idea what difference it makes. i do miss high ping day's some time's simple things like crossing a bridge would have me timing 3 seconds in advance. leading shots was crazy.

last point i said i can play never said i was a super player, just that i know how too play.

[EL_Din_46]

Catweazle a écrit :

just to make sure that i understand you, for thousands of battles you were playing with such a high ping, that you could not provide your part to your teams success? And now, where your 30, 60 and 90 days victory rate is under 50%, you complain about still be recognized as a bad player?

Just to clarify a couple things, a winrate of 48-49% is usually considered to be an average winrate. Being average may not be cosiderered “good” or “great” but by no stretch of the imagination should it be considered “bad.” (It’s not what the words mean). But saying that in Blitz is a trap that a lot of people fall into without intending to do so.

Secondly, I’ve platooned with Careless and he really did not act like a bad player. Like myself he seemed pretty average. We are better than about a third of the players but worse than another third. Hopefully we will both improve and be able to say something different in the future.

[EolSunder]

Just have fun, worrying about your win rate with "who knows what" going on your team really means nothing. Sure, its nice to have it high, but its not a big thing these days. With changes in the past, playing higher tiers doesn't mean you'll leave the bad players behind anymore.

sometimes you just need to go play a game and have fun without worrying about win rate. If your decent it will be up there no worries, even if its a bit lower than normal. Long ago back when i tried to keep mine about 62%, but with the changes over the years i found it very hard to do that as in the past, so while im down i think to like 59-60% now, the games are more fun i think.

[SKYeXile]

a good player will have a good winrate, if you want to get better. you should try to:
- keep your gun active. be doing damage, sitting back hiding isnt helping
- help that retard that rushes off into 5 dudes, get some shots off while they're distracted.
-focus fire & finish off low HP players first. they can still do damage so they should be the priority target,. if you have a choice of targets.
- stick with your allies, if you can overwhem a lone tank, do it.

[Knightmær]

SKYeXile a écrit :

a good player will have a good winrate, if you want to get better. you should try to:
- keep your gun active. be doing damage, sitting back hiding isnt helping
- help that retard that rushes off into 5 dudes, get some shots off while they're distracted.
-focus fire & finish off low HP players first. they can still do damage so they should be the priority target,. if you have a choice of targets.
- stick with your allies, if you can overwhem a lone tank, do it.

Now that you mention it, there are SOO many of those type of noobs:
1. Those who pushes and get screwed by 5 or more tanks
2. Non-TD tanks that decided to CAMP behind
3. TDs that CAMP behind but doesn't do any support
4. and more...

These type of people hurts my win rate so much. Don't get me wrong I make that kind of mistake once in a while, but my god every day it would be a 1:10 ratio when it comes to win and losses.

(BTW I'm playing in Asian server, that's right, the WORST kinds of people. You cannot disagree until you try playing there)

[SKYeXile]

I just started on blitz and chose NA too, im in australia. was debating between asia. i might have to check it out for lols. but i went 100% win rate until about 40 games start on NA, i dont know whats going on in those 5v5 game matches, but i think people wear their pants on their heads. But im still pretty high in the lower tiers, my tier 6 and 5 tanks are ~70%

you are going to get stuck with some players that dont want to work as a team, but you just gotta make it work for you.

So i think in blitz that medium tanks are better than heavies and TDS, atleast for me, they allow me to react to the small battlefield better, get to the target of opportunitys faster and reinforce my derpy team mates. not sure how that will change in higher tiers, HP and DPS may just win out.

But on ♥♥♥♥ teammites ill make that AFK guy work for me, ill make him draw the tanks fire or spot for me while i shoot the enemy, that TD camping? same thing, ill draw enemies into his fire. if theres one other guy left vs 4 of them ill rejoin him on the map, as you stand a better chance to win together. just gotta roll with what you got and do all you can to turn the tide.

[EL_Din_46]

SKYeXile a écrit :

I just started on blitz and chose NA too, im in australia. was debating between asia. i might have to check it out for lols. but i went 100% win rate until about 40 games start on NA, i dont know whats going on in those 5v5 game matches, but i think people wear their pants on their heads. But im still pretty high in the lower tiers, my tier 6 and 5 tanks are ~70% …

The tutorial system has been reworked and the 5x5 battles added recently. RibbleStripe explained Wargaming’s thinking this way:
“The purpose of the updated tutorial is to teach a newcomer with basic game skills in conditions close to real ones. We want to interest them, help them go through the first steps to success. Bots, hints, small maps, 5v5 battles make the assimilation of "educational material" more feasible.”

In your case it sounds like some of that is working better than it is with your teammates.
It wasn’t clear to me exactly when new players would be moving into 7x7 battles but looking at your battle history it may happen fairly soon. If the new system is similar to the previous one you’ll be matched against other new players when possible until you’ve had around 5,000 battles. I’ve also seen replays where bots were still added to those battles when they were needed to round off new player teams. Other times MM may lump new and experienced players together if it can’t quickly form two seperate battles.

Although not common, smaller teams can happen even with experienced players. The matchmaking system is allowed to form smaller teams if that is what is needed to have somewhat balanced teams get into a battle quickly. I’ve even had a few 3x3 battles recently but that is pretty unusual.

Here is where the tutorial system was explained: https://discord.com/channels/481445776178806785/502017295107883008/827164277491499068

[Knightmær]

Just had a pathetic match today, my teammates have below 50% win rates while the others have above 55%...

Any thoughts?

[EolSunder]

just keep playing and stop worrying about stats. When your battle is done, jump in a 2nd tank and start a new battle. Don't nitpick over your teams stats, the other teams stats. Battle is done, take a quick look at what you did in the fight, hit yourself in the head if you jump up front fast while your noobs team sat hiding behind buildings and you died fast because you actually wanted to shoot something lol.

Keep back, keep safe. Do damage.

[Astaroth]

you're not alone, i've lost .10% these days, defeat after defeat after defeat. every tier. in tier 9/10 there's even more human bots. with this chance to buy a direct x tier tank, there's even more human bots than before. most of them are under 42% WR, which is awful enough, not to say i've a lot of matches with 1 afk, most of the time, 2 with 0 dmg in game(e100, is7), platoons with 2 monkeys who did under 1000 dmg combined in tier x....things like that. Awful, just awful ! Most of them doesn't even look on the minimap, heck, i'd say prolly 75% of them. Chat ?! What's that ? Russians who can't read/comprehend basic english.

[Otabaro]

I do not care that much about winrate, but I care about the competence and a will to cooperate of those players. In most cases there is zero cooperation and when you ask for help, they will ignore you. Just like now. I wanted my teammates, that were not so far away, to help me kill one tank that was cyrcling around me. I got no response. Total ignorance. And watching the aftermath they have 49% and bellow. So if I have team full of those, then I know I can't trust them at all. Which is a big problem if I am playing support tanks and TDs without mobility. It's 50/50 with those people. The only thing you can is to pray, that their 49%s are worse than yours...

[Mernik]

You can't take this game seriously with children playing that have no clue how to play a tank really. the AI isn't any better they usually have a certain pattern they run. The lag causes shots to hit the ground or another part of the tank you were shooting or just plain miss. For a game that is based on accuracy that is not good. The game match maker well it isn't good either. RNG makes your shots if you do manage to hit the tank in the right spot worthless. The damage system is really stupid, you can track a tank without damage, this is what happens to your shots too. Since this game is based on damage to gain research points to get better eq/tanks/ crew xp your screwed . And crew xp, wow that exp gain is soooo slow it is unreal . my WR is 52% I don't pay nothing, never have never will. I've played Blitz and regular WOT . both games blow they oppress better players, you have to buy damage. Your team will be of children with no game skills and AI that is just there to fill the game slot. DON'T PLAY THIS GAME, IF YOU DO YOUR HATE FOR YOURSELF WILL BE WELL DESERVED. .