Chieftain MK.6

[Stedera]

The thing you done to this previously great tank made it absolutely unplayabale. Why you keep nerfing tanks, which were received with customer's money? Please restore Chieftain MK6 to it's original shape.

[milan.mrlian]

is fair when super conquer give every 8 sec 400/450 dmg
and IS 4 every 10/12 sec 450 ?
how you balance game
e 100 - 15 sec 650 ?
and med t54 every 5 sec 350 ? 10 sec 700 dmg 15 sec 1000 ?? where is line of balance ??
wg are as company in hads of kids who have no brain and want money for nothing
15 year balance tier 10 and never finish

i have question how balance other tanks as BT-art who have no penetration ammo !
or harry hopkins (poter) who have armor as 6 tier meds and many time must 5 tier meds use gold shell

[Stedera]

Originally posted by milan.mrlian:

is fair when super conquer give every 8 sec 400/450 dmg
and IS 4 every 10/12 sec 450 ?
how you balance game
e 100 - 15 sec 650 ?
and med t54 every 5 sec 350 ? 10 sec 700 dmg 15 sec 1000 ?? where is line of balance ??
wg are as company in hads of kids who have no brain and want money for nothing
15 year balance tier 10 and never finish

i have question how balance other tanks as BT-art who have no penetration ammo !
or harry hopkins (poter) who have armor as 6 tier meds and many time must 5 tier meds use gold shell

You compare uncomparable. E100 has good armor, t54 is 9 lvl fast tank also with good armor for med tank. IS 4 is faster and is free tank. I genually do not understand question here

[Pie Cart]

Originally posted by Stedera:

The thing you done to this previously great tank made it absolutely unplayabale. Why you keep nerfing tanks, which were received with customer's money? Please restore Chieftain MK6 to it's original shape.

Yes exactly.

It was paid for with money - WG can't just change the nature of the tank - it's not actually what people paid for.

I didn't want a different type of cent 7/1 I wanted to buy a Chieftain Mark 6.

Now what I've paid for has been complelty changed for play style.

They are correct to re-balance tanks from time to time, but now this one has NO PEN at all from the front, forcing you to play it like a medium tank.

[MoyZ3]

Originally posted by Stedera:

Originally posted by milan.mrlian:

is fair when super conquer give every 8 sec 400/450 dmg
and IS 4 every 10/12 sec 450 ?
how you balance game
e 100 - 15 sec 650 ?
and med t54 every 5 sec 350 ? 10 sec 700 dmg 15 sec 1000 ?? where is line of balance ??
wg are as company in hads of kids who have no brain and want money for nothing
15 year balance tier 10 and never finish

i have question how balance other tanks as BT-art who have no penetration ammo !
or harry hopkins (poter) who have armor as 6 tier meds and many time must 5 tier meds use gold shell

You compare uncomparable. E100 has good armor, t54 is 9 lvl fast tank also with good armor for med tank. IS 4 is faster and is free tank. I genually do not understand question here

DITTO. I COMPARE ALSO VK28 SO FAST AND THE VK168. BOTH TANKS HAVE NUMBER 8 BUT ONE HAS ARMOUR AND OTHER DOES NOT. WG MAKES NO SENSE. I COMPARE

[MoyZ3]

Originally posted by Stedera:

The thing you done to this previously great tank made it absolutely unplayabale. Why you keep nerfing tanks, which were received with customer's money? Please restore Chieftain MK6 to it's original shape.

The tank is fantastic, in skilled hands. No other tier 10 has this gamestyle. Why would you want to remove the 1 thing that makes it great? Just play a different tank.

You are probaly angling the tank in open play, rather than hull down with prammo HESH loaded. You are most likely set up wrong and getting into the wrong spots. Yes you can go with the meds, depending on the other tanks, this works well. Yes, its not a front line heavy. But playing behind a maus is great. Basically you need skill/experience. Your rant says you lack in at least one of these two. If not both. Most likely both

[Stedera]

Originally posted by MoyZ3:

Originally posted by Stedera:

The thing you done to this previously great tank made it absolutely unplayabale. Why you keep nerfing tanks, which were received with customer's money? Please restore Chieftain MK6 to it's original shape.

The tank is fantastic, in skilled hands. No other tier 10 has this gamestyle. Why would you want to remove the 1 thing that makes it great? Just play a different tank.

You are probaly angling the tank in open play, rather than hull down with prammo HESH loaded. You are most likely set up wrong and getting into the wrong spots. Yes you can go with the meds, depending on the other tanks, this works well. Yes, its not a front line heavy. But playing behind a maus is great. Basically you need skill/experience. Your rant says you lack in at least one of these two. If not both. Most likely both

You are probably around 45% wr and 1000 avg dmg, if you say this. Let's go 1 v 1, you on Chief and I am on super conqueror.

[Pie Cart]

Originally posted by MoyZ3:

Originally posted by Stedera:

The thing you done to this previously great tank made it absolutely unplayabale. Why you keep nerfing tanks, which were received with customer's money? Please restore Chieftain MK6 to it's original shape.

The tank is fantastic, in skilled hands. No other tier 10 has this gamestyle. Why would you want to remove the 1 thing that makes it great? Just play a different tank.

You are probaly angling the tank in open play, rather than hull down with prammo HESH loaded. You are most likely set up wrong and getting into the wrong spots. Yes you can go with the meds, depending on the other tanks, this works well. Yes, its not a front line heavy. But playing behind a maus is great. Basically you need skill/experience. Your rant says you lack in at least one of these two. If not both. Most likely both

Ok for a start... the tank as it is now is NOT WHAT I PAID FOR...

I paid for a a premium tank that has a play style, you get it? WG can put an alternative gun in there for people who like premium HESH and low pen HE, but this would be an addition to the high pen APCR / cheap HESH with ~110mm pen...

You get it? It's what we PAID FOR!

[anytime]

Originally posted by Pie Cart:

Originally posted by MoyZ3:

The tank is fantastic, in skilled hands. No other tier 10 has this gamestyle. Why would you want to remove the 1 thing that makes it great? Just play a different tank.

You are probaly angling the tank in open play, rather than hull down with prammo HESH loaded. You are most likely set up wrong and getting into the wrong spots. Yes you can go with the meds, depending on the other tanks, this works well. Yes, its not a front line heavy. But playing behind a maus is great. Basically you need skill/experience. Your rant says you lack in at least one of these two. If not both. Most likely both

Ok for a start... the tank as it is now is NOT WHAT I PAID FOR...

I paid for a a premium tank that has a play style, you get it? WG can put an alternative gun in there for people who like premium HESH and low pen HE, but this would be an addition to the high pen APCR / cheap HESH with ~110mm pen...

You get it? It's what we PAID FOR!

I find WG's rebalance rule for premium and collector tanks baffling. Why they decided they can do one and not the other...??? I'm not really asking for the reason...I don't really care. But yeah, as far as changing the fundamentals of a tank which was "bought" is just part of what makes WG trash.

I don't play too many games, and really try to avoid F2P/P2W games.

I think Steel Aces WILL BE a different experience, even with it being a F2P game. They are targetting so many things WG is doing wrong.

[Stedera]

Originally posted by anytime:

Originally posted by Pie Cart:

Ok for a start... the tank as it is now is NOT WHAT I PAID FOR...

I paid for a a premium tank that has a play style, you get it? WG can put an alternative gun in there for people who like premium HESH and low pen HE, but this would be an addition to the high pen APCR / cheap HESH with ~110mm pen...

You get it? It's what we PAID FOR!

I find WG's rebalance rule for premium and collector tanks baffling. Why they decided they can do one and not the other...??? I'm not really asking for the reason...I don't really care. But yeah, as far as changing the fundamentals of a tank which was "bought" is just part of what makes WG trash.

I don't play too many games, and really try to avoid F2P/P2W games.

I think Steel Aces WILL BE a different experience, even with it being a F2P game. They are targetting so many things WG is doing wrong.

The reason is simple. 80% of the game are around 45-55% winrate and 500-1200 average dmg, but their battle count is well above 10k. These type of tanks usually are only good in skilled player's hands, as they are generally not able to take many hits, but are fast and have nice gun. Average player is just unable to use them properly, especially when they usually play IS-7 or E100. But skilled players are able to do lots of damage with these tanks, they know how to use it, they like it - they destroy avg players. And that's where game target audience is starting whining and screaming, that they would stop paying money if this tank is not nerfed. You see the logic now? They nerf T57 Heavy, they nerf even 50B, cmon, this tank already has not much.

[EL_Din_46]

Originally posted by Stedera:

The reason is simple. 80% of the game are around 45-55% winrate and 500-1200 average dmg, but their battle count is well above 10k. These type of tanks usually are only good in skilled player's hands, as they are generally not able to take many hits, but are fast and have nice gun. Average player is just unable to use them properly, especially when they usually play IS-7 or E100. But skilled players are able to do lots of damage with these tanks, they know how to use it, they like it - they destroy avg players. And that's where game target audience is starting whining and screaming, that they would stop paying money if this tank is not nerfed. You see the logic now? They nerf T57 Heavy, they nerf even 50B, cmon, this tank already has not much.

There's also another type of motive. Wargaming values their ability to change variables to reduce frustration but they also value their ability to change variables to reduce boredom. Something like eliminating the grind for crew masteries does the first, rrebalancing tier 10 periodically does the second.

It's really a gamble on WG's part. Change is unsetteling, even when it all works out for the best. It doesn't always work out like WG thimks it will or has consequences that one group or another doesn't like. Eliminating the grind keeps newer players in game longer but it also means too many are playing high tiers without the experience they need to be successful there, for example.

[Stedera]

No, that's not the case, believe me. They absolutely do not care how much fun you have. No changes in this game would ever reduce the grind, not talking about killing tanks players like the most