bad teams too much, about to quit

[anytime]

I've been playing WOTB for a couple months now. Something has changed, or something is screwy, because what is occurring on my teams is BEYOND RIDICULOUS. LITERALLY BEYOND RIDICULE.

I don't get how I keep getting teamed with nearly unbearably bad players. In the last 3 days, my W/L has dropped around 2%. I'm not the only one noticing this. I'm seeing clan members also commenting about how horrible their teams are.

"It's random, it's evens out"
I'm not seeing equal distribution of this pattern. Even games my team ends up winning, another player (which was just some player, I don't know them) even commented "that was close". I'm getting beat by teams losing 1 or 2 tanks, and sometimes losing NONE. Even the WINS are A STRUGGLE. When my team is wining, there's maybe 3 tanks left if things went really well.

The last battle I just fought, 2 of my team mates died in the 1st minute. I couldn't believe it. THIS WAS LEVEL 9s, and these 2 just went off on their own and got slaughtered. At that point, NOTHING MY TEAM OR I COULD DO IS GOING TO MATTER. And this "the team" that I keep getting. Another losing match, our top player has a 60% win rate...but i in the tank they used? like 38%.

In my T54, I'm 2 for 10 today! I'm living, one match I did die from being in a bad position mid match. Otherwise scoring I'm mid pack damage wise and getting 1 or 2 kills. So it's not like I'm sitting doing nothing. BUT WHY CAN'T I BE ON THE TEAM WHERE A COUPLE PEOPLE DIE BUT WE STILL WIN EASILY? CAUSE THAT'S HOW IT SEEMS TO CONSISTENTLY BE FOR THE OTHER TEAM.

Wargaming you got $60 out of me. I guess at this point, you figured I'm spending as much as I'm going to spend so it's time to get me to quit and bring in more suckers, or your trying to make me spend more so I feel I can compete. I definitely WILL NOT SPEND ONE MORE SINGLE DOLLAR as long as this situation persists. I'm willing to give this a few more days THEN UNINSTALL.

[EL_Din_46]

Swifty の投稿を引用：

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The clue is in one little paragraph on the main WOT mm page:

"Additionally, the matchmaker attempts to match tanks in the same subclass and tier (such as Superheavies e.g. Maus, E 100, Type 5 Heavy etc. or Autoloading Mediums e.g. Bat.-Châtillon 25 t) against one another."

So, depending on your subclass and tier, you will have a "mirror" on the other side.
….

Blitz is not an exact copy of WOT but they could be heading towards a subclass system for MM.

They announced in October that they had started to use 9 different roles internally when balancing tanks (see below). When announced, they had already been using a role system for balancing tiers V-VII for an unknown period and said they would start doing that with tiers VIII-X. A total of 11 benchmarks, such as hp, single shot damage and armor, would be used in buffing or nerfing tanks to fit their roles.

(Something similar was being used for Mad Games abilities already).

Wargaming has previously said that they limit tanks to no more than 4 of each class with no more than a variation of +1/-1 between the class numbers in each team. They’ve also said recently that they now consider mediums and lights to be the same class for MM.

You aren’t the only person who thinks they may have moved or be moving to a role system for MM too. I’m not sure yet, since they like to keep MM simple and fast. With 9 roles but only 7 on a team it doesn’t sound simple - yet.
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“Every tank has its own gameplay role (used internally) which depends on a vehicle type and its key characteristics:
- Devastator (causes huge damage in a short period of time);
- Dreadnaught (blocks and absorbs damage);
- Stormtrooper (first-line heavy);
- Cavalry (maneuverable tank, effective in flanking);
- Sniper (shoots from long distance and keeps that distance);
- Close assault (heavy with weaker armor but more accurate gun than in a Stormtrooper);
- Close support (well-armored TD, fights in short distance);
- Long support (ambush TD with an accurate gun and no armor);
- Half-heavy (Cavalry/Stormtrooper hybrid, less mobile than Cavalry and has lower firepower than a Stormtrooper);
- Scout (fast tank with low armor protection, provides initial spotting).”
https://discord.com/channels/481445776178806785/502017295107883008/902911231747326043

[VEWDU]

Point is: ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ players = trash game

[John Wick]

players play reverse of what they suppose to be playing in tanks, camping as lights/meds and heavies, or that they just YOLO to the red team.

[klmmotorsports2]

Dont worry, if you provide the real reason for the trouble with wargaming they will simply delete your comments and deny. Wargaming is running a gaming scam basically calling it a 7v7 co op game. They found a way to run a slot machine and call it a tank game. Thats why lots of things change.....except gameplay. The gameplay is the same no matter how long you play and thats by design.

[shadow]

i first thought this game was really really great but now i have tier 8s stuff are so hard like bad teams afk people and mostly one person in my team decides to flank alone and he dies
my name is Saqibalisjaid and i play on na server if you want to platoon

[BellatorMonk]

shadow の投稿を引用：

i first thought this game was really really great but now i have tier 8s stuff are so hard like bad teams afk people and mostly one person in my team decides to flank alone and he dies
my name is Saqibalisjaid and i play on na server if you want to platoon

Wait till you play T9-10 and see that 13 players out of 14 are 40%ers or less 9 out of 10 matches lol.

[John Wick]

WG doesn't care to toss you into with trash players, all they care about is $$$$$. But they try to sell you tanks with descriptions that you have upper hand and in full control of the situation :) and can overcome all enemies

[sfj.jacobs]

i fully agree with ''Anytime'' and what he say. anyone giving him a negative answer are most likely a pay to win player that only buys the best and broken tanks spending 100s of dollars on tanks and now bragging with his win rate. as u said u only play games that u know u will win . woopy what a dush.
my win rate was 54% and recently with all the noobs and game play that changed it dropped to 47% . not that i give a ♥♥♥♥. i want one of there calculators as how do they calculate when u lose 10/20 games in a row and your win rate stay the same ??.
im not spending 100s of dollars on a game that is made to fill the pockets of greedy ppl that take ppl for fools as some are. losing 10/20 battles in a row with a 0/7 can only mean that the game is rigged to keep the fools that spend money happy and keep them spending to smooth their ego.
it does not mean u new or a noob when u lose games and is always in top 3 with damage and u always have ppl afk or die with 0 damage in 1st few seconds by charging into the enemy like a bull in a china shop with no clue what u doing.
Matchmaking and tank distribution in the match is rigged and not balanced.

[John Wick]

WG business model
- spend $$$ buy some buffed up tanks or something better, get good response
otherwise why would you spend $$$
- over time, WG buffed the rest to balance it out
- p2w feels no more potential edge
repeat cycle

[KatherineFtw]

EolSunder の投稿を引用：

Don't quit. change your thinking. Too many changes have made those bad teams all the time. you need to start playing for fun, not to win. win rate means nothing these days it isn't worth worrying about any more. WG has screw ed over so many players those that disliked it left long ago, those that adapted still play but you need to realize you aren't going to win all the time with bad teams, play a game, if you lose just jump into another game. You can be mad if you want, but you have another game waiting play another match.

If you still really worry about win rate in these current days, you need to platoon to get a better win rate. Get 2 people who are decent players and your win rate will be better, but really, Blitz threw caring about that out long ago. If win rate really means that much to you, buy an OP tank, get a platoonmate with an OP tank, and go to town. if you don't want to do that, then adjust your thinking, play tanks you have fun in, and if your team sucks.. be mad, but just jump into another match and have fun.

yes, its annoying to be number 1 in the match all the time, to sometimes in your tier 8-9 battle outshoot all your teammates COMBINED in your light tank lol. But thats the way the game is.. bad players, expect it every game, don't expect anything else, try and do YOUR best, have some fun. Me, i like playing my T49. I don't do good in it like other tanks, but i have fun with it. Its great to take out and have fun, even if you lose a lot. Go have some fun.

Me, i stopped grinding new tanks when they did the great purge and blued everything, making grinding worthless when they just take away your tanks or nerf them, etc. Haven't did a single new tank in years? lol. I just play fun favorites tier 6-8 ish and have fun, don't care about WG anymore just something to pass the time. I'll just use free exp to "grind" tanks now once in a while to use it up but haven't even really did that in years. Not worth it, grind some tanks, WG nerfs or removes them, yea thats a lot of wasted time for nothing. Won't fall for that ever again.

This, exactly this. Just play for fun, not to win.

Winrates don't mean anything, and in fact like K/D from Call of Duty, if you have a particularly high score it means either you haven't played enough and/or "cheated" in some way.

Matchmaker could be refined a bit more I do agree tho. It's a bit obvious when you have a lower skilled team. Particularly the matchmaker gives you a Mauschen, a VK 100.01, and a VK 168.01 all on the same side. Yes, that has actually happened to me, today even. Most you can do then is play hard, give it your all, and most importantly have fun.

[klmmotorsports2]

FEDERAL INVESTIGATORS ARE GETTING DATA NOW. WARGAMING DAYS ARE NUMBERED

[carelessjet2]

stop looking at blitzstars.
stats don't matter, your letting your stats play you.
who cares if you 15%er in the end.
at the point that you drop 2% and want too quit the game. i think you need too step back from blitzstars and just enjoy the round.
if you blow up .......ok
if you team blows up.....ok
if you win .......ok
if you lose.....ok
if you ace a tank ......ok

no buddy cares.

all i care about, is if i have blue tanks too kill.
live for the now especially when it comes too what is supposed too be fun and relaxing.

not just talking too OP but all you stat hungry tankers.

lol my name is "careless" for the record i never picked that name it was given too me by Microsoft along time ago. this is not a careless front but facts.

i have yet too go into a job interview and had my would be employer say "you seem like a good fit here, just one more question. what is your blitzstars name we need too check your stats"

[VEWDU]

carelessjet2 の投稿を引用：

stop looking at blitzstars.
stats don't matter, your letting your stats play you.
who cares if you 15%er in the end.
at the point that you drop 2% and want too quit the game. i think you need too step back from blitzstars and just enjoy the round.
if you blow up .......ok
if you team blows up.....ok
if you win .......ok
if you lose.....ok
if you ace a tank ......ok

no buddy cares.

all i care about, is if i have blue tanks too kill.
live for the now especially when it comes too what is supposed too be fun and relaxing.

not just talking too OP but all you stat hungry tankers.

lol my name is "careless" for the record i never picked that name it was given too me by Microsoft along time ago. this is not a careless front but facts.

i have yet too go into a job interview and had my would be employer say "you seem like a good fit here, just one more question. what is your blitzstars name we need too check your stats"

Keep that mentally to yourself. Some people play just so they can say “oh I play wotb” others play it to win and actually accomplish something. I’m not deathly concerned about wr, however, I’m not at the low level of being okay with my stats looking like utter rubbish. Last time I checked losing miserably because your team is dogshît wasn’t ever fun unless you’re among the ranks of the brainless that play this game

[carelessjet2]

Kaizer の投稿を引用：

carelessjet2 の投稿を引用：

stop looking at blitzstars.
stats don't matter, your letting your stats play you.
who cares if you 15%er in the end.
at the point that you drop 2% and want too quit the game. i think you need too step back from blitzstars and just enjoy the round.
if you blow up .......ok
if you team blows up.....ok
if you win .......ok
if you lose.....ok
if you ace a tank ......ok

no buddy cares.

all i care about, is if i have blue tanks too kill.
live for the now especially when it comes too what is supposed too be fun and relaxing.

not just talking too OP but all you stat hungry tankers.

lol my name is "careless" for the record i never picked that name it was given too me by Microsoft along time ago. this is not a careless front but facts.

i have yet too go into a job interview and had my would be employer say "you seem like a good fit here, just one more question. what is your blitzstars name we need too check your stats"

Keep that mentally to yourself. Some people play just so they can say “oh I play wotb” others play it to win and actually accomplish something. I’m not deathly concerned about wr, however, I’m not at the low level of being okay with my stats looking like utter rubbish. Last time I checked losing miserably because your team is dogshît wasn’t ever fun unless you’re among the ranks of the brainless that play this game

i have never had a 40%er tell me.
im trash.
kill myself.
go back too tier one.
raciest insults.
demanding reports.
calling bots.

etc.etc.etc.

that is something only unicorns do.
the most toxic and vial players are not the 40%ers and the 40%ers are not the ones ruining the game. it's the people that forget it's a game in the first place that are the problem.

[VEWDU]

carelessjet2 の投稿を引用：

Kaizer の投稿を引用：

Keep that mentally to yourself. Some people play just so they can say “oh I play wotb” others play it to win and actually accomplish something. I’m not deathly concerned about wr, however, I’m not at the low level of being okay with my stats looking like utter rubbish. Last time I checked losing miserably because your team is dogshît wasn’t ever fun unless you’re among the ranks of the brainless that play this game

i have never had a 40%er tell me.
im trash.
kill myself.
go back too tier one.
raciest insults.
demanding reports.
calling bots.

etc.etc.etc.

that is something only unicorns do.
the most toxic and vial players are not the 40%ers and the 40%ers are not the ones ruining the game. it's the people that forget it's a game in the first place that are the problem.

Most 40%ers are the trash that ♥♥♥♥♥ up the game. Not everyone plays to be a loser like you do. I’m not ok with these trash players and I never will be