Bots are infesting my matchmaking.

[жэф]

I'm not talking about players, I'm talking about actual AI.

Every single game has 4-5 Bots/NPCs and 2-3 players. I also get plenty of games where it's just me with 9 other NPCs.

How in the F*** do I get rid of this crap? It's driving me insane. I already have 150 battles on my new account with 1k+ avg dmg, 750+ avg xp, 80% acc and 5 Ace Tanker badges.

I'm doing tech tree only on this account and have already made it to T7, playing the last two days predominately on my IS-2. From everything I've read on the various WOT forum platforms (official, steam, reddit, etc.), I should be well past the stage where bots comprise a majority of the tanks in my game. It's driving me insane because it feels like 80% of my games are just me carrying the entire team, only to lose at the end because of some bot-based buffoonery or the simple fact that I'm getting match-maked with actual brand-new players who have no gamesense, gui awareness or basic mechanical aptitude (ie. sidescraping, hull-down, etc.).

When will the nightmare end?

If WG actually reads these forums.. please for the love of everything in existence, please make bots an optional thing for us to choose in our Battle settings, and make it so a player can't choose to play without bots unless they meet certain skill thresholds. I understand the desire for using bots to bootcamp no0bs, but there's a point on the skill curve tier-wise where bots become detrimental to an individual's growth in the game. Bots play like T1-T3 newbs but with a more aggressive playstyle and much better accuracy. After T5 though, such a bullheaded playstyle will just give new players terrible habits and even worse expectations when it comes to playing pubs.

[carelessjet2]

grind your teeth through a few more rounds.
your almost done with the bot's, make the best of it and grind a nice tank for when the real battles start.

[EL_Din_46]

Wargaming attempts to match new players only against other new players when possible. Prior to the new tutorial, the consensus has been that this would end on the NA server somewhere around 5,000 battles and/or tier 5. Of course, with a lower player base very often this type of matchmaking was not actually possible in the NA region.

The NA player base increased significantly in 2020 and now we have a revamped tutorial and other changes for new players. I don’t think we have enough experience with the current set up to say when you’ll be out of the new player queue.

In the meantime, make the most of it while you can. Use this time to learn the maps, tanks and tactics even better than you do now, build up your crew skills, and get camo's and upgrades for all your tanks. You’ll be in the regular queue soon enough and will need those advantages.

[jeanperiquito]

ever since the update to 7.9 it's been rubbish. Every game I've played one team destroys the other after just 2 mins, and the winning team doesn't lose a single tank! It's so unbalanced. And I always get lumped i with bots so I never have a chance.

[BellatorMonk]

If you are seeing bots in T7 no matter how many battles you have we would love to see some screenshots or replays. That is NOT supposed to happen at T6+. There have been reports but no one has ever provided proof on the WG forums or here yet.
Be glad though as the AI bots play better than actual players you will encounter.

[EL_Din_46]

Originally posted by BellatorMonk:

If you are seeing bots in T7 no matter how many battles you have we would love to see some screenshots or replays. That is NOT supposed to happen at T6+. There have been reports but no one has ever provided proof on the WG forums or here yet.
Be glad though as the AI bots play better than actual players you will encounter.

That’s true for NA, but not for EU where there’s a larger player base. Bots have been reported as high as tier 9 there. Here’s a replay of a ~390 battle player in tier 7 against tier 7/8 bots:

https://youtu.be/rbGB6FVkCgE

[LunaVTF.bsp]

i got blown up by a wallhacker.
on a live stream. the shells make trails of air and he shot me through a solid wall. not a prop wall where a tank can drive through. a real wall. from a large building that is not detroyed

[EL_Din_46]

Originally posted by Insert name:

i got blown up by a wallhacker.
on a live stream. the shells make trails of air and he shot me through a solid wall. not a prop wall where a tank can drive through. a real wall. from a large building that is not detroyed

You can shoot through open windows or even the tiniest gap in walls. You might be able to get some splash damage with a powerful enough shell hitting a thin enough wall or even ricochet off another tank. But you can’t actually shoot through indestructible objects.

What may have happened is that he had a much lower ping than you. He fired when the wall wasn’t in the way. His fire command reached the server quickly and the server decided that you had been hit. Then that message traveled so slowly back to you that by the time you knew that you’d been hit the wall was in the way. Then your client drew the tracer between the two tanks and right through the wall.

It’s not magic but it is a very good illusion.

[BellatorMonk]

Wow I would love to play on a teams full of bots at T8. 7k dmg..good times.

[жэф]

Here's pictures from a T7 game where I was playing an HTC Independence; each team had 3 bots each. This is actually uncommon, because most bot games I find myself usually have 4 or 5 and only 2 players. Check the link to see a couple of screenshots I took.

And sorry for the PRTSCR screen grab, I was watching Hulu when I took it which is why half the screen is a black box.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/W2MwTNq

[MoyZ3]

Originally posted by Ʀ ʊ ƞ Ʃ ۝ ᴪ ᴉ ϝ i:

Here's pictures from a T7 game where I was playing an HTC Independence; each team had 3 bots each. This is actually uncommon, because most bot games I find myself usually have 4 or 5 and only 2 players. Check the link to see a couple of screenshots I took.

And sorry for the PRTSCR screen grab, I was watching Hulu when I took it which is why half the screen is a black box.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/W2MwTNq

This was a glitch

It was showing friends I have played with for a long time, also with zero games. Even though they had played 20k+

[EL_Din_46]

Originally posted by MoyZ3:

Originally posted by Ʀ ʊ ƞ Ʃ ۝ ᴪ ᴉ ϝ i:

Here's pictures from a T7 game where I was playing an HTC Independence; each team had 3 bots each. This is actually uncommon, because most bot games I find myself usually have 4 or 5 and only 2 players. Check the link to see a couple of screenshots I took.

And sorry for the PRTSCR screen grab, I was watching Hulu when I took it which is why half the screen is a black box.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/W2MwTNq

This was a glitch

It was showing friends I have played with for a long time, also with zero games. Even though they had played 20k+

GC_Howard is an NA player and your profile says you live in the City of London. Secondly, while I can find GC’s profile on BlitzStars I can’t find a profile for any of those three bots. Third, none of those players are using an avatar (a minor corroborative point).

Until recently new player matchmaking had not used bots in NA for battles with players that had more than a 100 battle count. Meadsy69 has recently released a video showing a similar battle that he believes had both bots and consistently underperforming players in it as well as the low battlecount (reroll) player who submitted it. With GC’s evidence it now looks like there has been at least one change in NA matchmaking. There have been reports that WG was considering using the “consistently underperforming”rule on the NA server. I hope to see proof of that too.

https://youtu.be/zQLOddng24c

[MoyZ3]

Whether bots are used or not.... I reckon they would have more skill than most of the noobtards driving in circles and being a heavy "TD" sitting in front of a bush

[EL_Din_46]

Originally posted by MoyZ3:

Whether bots are used or not.... I reckon they would have more skill than most of the noobtards driving in circles and being a heavy "TD" sitting in front of a bush

I have been in battles with players that do not play as well as the bots in the replays. The bots at least move and shoot.

[carelessjet2]

i think it's fair too say we all have had bot move's at lest once a week.

have you guy's truly never seen a gap in the enemy lines and thought "i can make it" only too be one shot by a 152.

or seen a smasher on your team and decided too support it only for it too do 0 damage.
having you in the wrong spot unable too support the rest of your team.

went too scout and rolled out a bit too far.

gone the wrong way.

forgot about your mini map.

mistakes happen at even in the highest level's. maybe the player may seem brain dead this round but was top score last.

[AguilaDeAcero]

Yeah.. sadly, there are lots of bots. But they camuflage them with funky nicknames. That gingergirl and extanker are everywhere. What a shame.
I mean, I'm cool with bots, but don't try to make them pass as real players. Geez.