Best Heavy Tanks for tier 6??

[xarlie]

tested is and really dont like it ... any tips for the best heavy for tier 6? :D

[Dakota]

Цитата допису xarlie:

a little doubt.... im playing ARL44 and ok has a good dps but wtf with the armor? all hits penetrate mine and im trying always to face my front armor with the enemy tank.... then what im doing wrong?

What enemies are you going up against? It has some of the best frontal armor of T6, but every tank can be penned within its tier by TDs or gold rounds. Its still good to try to not take some hits, the armor will save you sometimes, but its never garunteed.

[404_Gordon_Not_Found]

Цитата допису EolSunder:

The trick with the ARL44, and other tanks like the T29, are that its turret armor is better than its body armor. This means that when you are shooting stuff if you can, you want to only have the turret visible (which is easy with the arl44). That way anyone shooting at you really only has a chance to hit your turret, which is superior to your body armor.

A arl44 in the open is an easy target, its front and side body armor isn't that tough and most things can damage its upper glacial easy unless its angled, but just have the small nicely designed turret peeking over, and facing the enemy (you always want to have the turret facing your dangerous enemy because it is great from the front, don't turn it to the side, very vulnerable). and you'll do better.

So like any tank, make sure to angle a little depending on how much of you is sticking out, and always make sure the turret is facing the enemy direction for maximum protection. Angle body, don't angle turret. The front of the turret of the arl44 is excellent both in armor and natural size and shape for having enemies miss/bounce.

ARL 44 has a stronger hull frontally than the turret. The only thing strong about the turret is the size and angling. The flat turret face is quite weak and can be reliably penetrated at mid to short range

[EolSunder]

yea sorry for some reason my post didn't go through. The difference is only 10, so the turret has 10 less, but its size and shape vastly make up for the small difference. The body has 10 more, which really is nothing, and is very easy to damage. Even if the front is angled, its super easy to shoot the huge side of the tank if the front is angled in most cases. And the turret is easy to hit if it isn't pointing at you.

Angling the arl44 isn't as useful as other higher armor tanks because of its weaker side armor, so i always do maybe 10-20% instead of the normal 30-45 like i would on a tank with better side armor. And always keep the turret pointing directly at the tank your fighting to increase the chance to miss/bounce if they shoot your turret.

[Kvasnikov]

Цитата допису EolSunder:

The difference is only 10, so the turret has 10 less, but its size and shape vastly make up for the small difference.

Yes, but the hull armor is sloped so even without angling your tank the effective armor of the hull is around 150 mm and with slight angling it goes to 180+ mm.

Цитата допису EolSunder:

Angling the arl44 isn't as useful as other higher armor tanks because of its weaker side armor

Agree on there. Don't expose the weak sides.

[Verboxe]

Best heavy tank of tier 6 is ARL 44.There isn’t much to argue about when ARL has 212 ap pen, heavily sloped 120mm frontal armor, adequate mobility and good gun depression.Yes it is a big target and the side/rear armor is very weak.Then again, if you are getting flanked in a arl 44, either your team is completely useless or you have positioned the tank poorly.

[xarlie]

talking about the ARL 44... it is worth the 105cm cannongun? :S

[Verboxe]

Цитата допису xarlie:

talking about the ARL 44... it is worth the 105cm cannongun? :S

90mm is more than enough for tier 6, the alpha damage of 105mm doesnt make up for its worse aim time and dispersion in my opinion.

[VDG]

i think its pretty sad nobody thinks kv2 is the best :(. Because if u would 1v1 them kv2 will probs win of them due the derp. Second if ure a decent player knowing how to angle and sidescrap a kv2 you will win of the Kv1s (1 shot) Arl44 (1shot) M6 (with a high dmg roll 1 Shot) Churchill IV ( HE in the back will burn it to ashes or Prem shell in the side will ammorack 50% of the time) Vk H ( 1 shot high dmg roll or well aimed AP due low Ammorack HP) T150 (atleast 2 shots but due the T150's long reload you will have the 2 shots) And the TOG well if u can find an HE weakspot its a 2 shot then i never fought a TOG II while drving the kv2. Thats my opinion

[Neithan]

Цитата допису {MNH}Man's not Hot:

i think its pretty sad nobody thinks kv2 is the best :(. Because if u would 1v1 them kv2 will probs win of them due the derp. Second if ure a decent player knowing how to angle and sidescrap a kv2 you will win of the Kv1s (1 shot) Arl44 (1shot) M6 (with a high dmg roll 1 Shot) Churchill IV ( HE in the back will burn it to ashes or Prem shell in the side will ammorack 50% of the time) Vk H ( 1 shot high dmg roll or well aimed AP due low Ammorack HP) T150 (atleast 2 shots but due the T150's long reload you will have the 2 shots) And the TOG well if u can find an HE weakspot its a 2 shot then i never fought a TOG II while drving the kv2. Thats my opinion

Only KV2 is such a slug it easily can be outmaneuvered in any 1vs1 situation, and the time it takes you to reliably aim in your gun is enough to shoot you and go behind cover again.
The KV2 main weakness is if you can catch him alone without any backup, he is pretty much f'ed.
Sure his derp gun packs THE punch, but then, you are extremely prone to rnd with your dispersion and aim time, and you mainly work off the surprise effect and targets distracted by teammates, and basically NEED some backup. One reason I really dislike playing the KV2 without a platoonmate, as usually, teamsupport is laughable, and without that you are worth shijet.

[RolliePollie]

KV-1S.

Why?

The maps are designed with peek-a-boom in mind so pure DPM isn't effective. Sure it has a long reload but with your teammates and a platoon member to cover you then you can blast fools for half their health.

It's also got armour, slightly worse than it's predecessor but enough to bounce low tier guns.

Also don't play the tank like a braindead individual, go with your teammates and take cover.

[xarlie]

Цитата допису Tamaba-chan:

KV-1S.

Why?

The maps are designed with peek-a-boom in mind so pure DPM isn't effective. Sure it has a long reload but with your teammates and a platoon member to cover you then you can blast fools for half their health.

It's also got armour, slightly worse than it's predecessor but enough to bounce low tier guns.

Also don't play the tank like a braindead individual, go with your teammates and take cover.

hummm as far as i played kv1s is the worst for me.. why..? because whn you shot... 18 secs reload is enough time for enemy tanks to flank you and kill you before second shoot.... :(
I prefer for that T-150 because has good armor and good cannon... but is so slow maneuvering

[graystripe]

Цитата допису White_Tower_Guard:

Best heavy tank of tier 6 is ARL 44.There isn’t much to argue about when ARL has 212 ap pen, heavily sloped 120mm frontal armor, adequate mobility and good gun depression.Yes it is a big target and the side/rear armor is very weak.Then again, if you are getting flanked in a arl 44, either your team is completely useless or you have positioned the tank poorly.

i can easily tell this is a very bias post about arl 44 tank as you failed to take note of its cons.

arl 44 tank possess one of the the lowest traverse speed for a tier 6 tank.

even if its top speed is 35 km/h, that doesn't makes up for its low traverse speed at all.

[Greygamer]

Цитата допису graystripe:

Цитата допису White_Tower_Guard:

Best heavy tank of tier 6 is ARL 44.There isn’t much to argue about when ARL has 212 ap pen, heavily sloped 120mm frontal armor, adequate mobility and good gun depression.Yes it is a big target and the side/rear armor is very weak.Then again, if you are getting flanked in a arl 44, either your team is completely useless or you have positioned the tank poorly.

i can easily tell this is a very bias post about arl 44 tank as you failed to take note of its cons.

arl 44 tank possess one of the the lowest traverse speed for a tier 6 tank.

even if its top speed is 35 km/h, that doesn't makes up for its low traverse speed at all.

That is as may be, I've never driven the Arl 44, but blitzstars comparision site puts it at 2nd (in non-premium t6 heavies) in Damage Ratio (Damage vs Damage recieved) and total damage. Given that many teams prefer to sit and wait, that actually plays to it's strengths and it's only in the closing stages it's lack of mobility is a problem. It's survival rate is middle of the pack and possibly due to players pushing forward without support.

[xarlie]

Цитата допису Greygamer:

Цитата допису graystripe:

i can easily tell this is a very bias post about arl 44 tank as you failed to take note of its cons.

arl 44 tank possess one of the the lowest traverse speed for a tier 6 tank.

even if its top speed is 35 km/h, that doesn't makes up for its low traverse speed at all.

That is as may be, I've never driven the Arl 44, but blitzstars comparision site puts it at 2nd (in non-premium t6 heavies) in Damage Ratio (Damage vs Damage recieved) and total damage. Given that many teams prefer to sit and wait, that actually plays to it's strengths and it's only in the closing stages it's lack of mobility is a problem. It's survival rate is middle of the pack and possibly due to players pushing forward without support.

what is the 1st tank then in dmg ratio? :S

[Greygamer]

Well you could look it up, it's the KV-2. Good armor and high alpha and scares the life out of people. I've seen them in platoon also.

Anyway I can tell a tale about a KV-2,
So on dead rail, both teams go up, except their KV-2. Good close fight (I was in my Jumbo), saw the KV-2 was on the low(?) side of the map and I made sure there was always cover between me and that gun. When the smoke clears there is an undamaged KV-2 on the cap against my Jumbo (<100 health) and an Arl V39 (also low health), not that it matters against a hit from the KV-2.
We both get a shot in but the KV kills the Arl. I can't kill the KV in 1 shot so I keep looking which way that gun is pointing and get a sneaky shot in. Backing into cover I bounce 640 damage (iirc) and now I got 2 or 3 free shots. So we win, (side armor is no match for the stock gun on a Jumbo)
Afterwards well both I and the KV driver have a nice chat about how close that was, to be fair I have bounced KV-2 shots off the front armour of my Jumbo before tho.