premium tank recommendation

[Raviel]

so i got some gold on discount during this event. thinking of getting some premium tank for reasonable price.

Are any of the currently sold tanks good?
I've looked up some information and according to https://www.blitzstars.com/toptanks

IS 6 and 112 Glacial seem to have not bad win rate, better than IS 3 (which i have) but i fail to see what makes them any better than it. they seem quite similar stat wise and i didn't notice any dramatic difference when playing against them on IS 3. if anything they felt somewhat easier to deal with compared to other IS-3.
Lowe gave me much more trouble but it has lower win rate than IS 3.

Is it like test player pool issue or there is a real reason for those statistics?
(Are they actually better than Lowe?)

things like WZ-120-1G FT, IS-3 defender seem to dominate the tables, could it be worth to wait for them to go back on sale? are they even going to be back on sale?

thank you

[EolSunder]

1st, best premium to buy is the level 10 clan tank, IS5. Its only 1500 gold for a tier 8 that is nice. AFTER that, lets see. I wouldn't say either the IS6 or Glacial is any better than your IS3. IS6 is a bit more manuverable than the IS5, but it isn't a huge factor. Less front armor but better side/rear armor. Glacial so-so. I personally think the IS3 is better than both.

[Raviel]

Originally posted by EolSunder:

1st, best premium to buy is the level 10 clan tank, IS5. Its only 1500 gold for a tier 8 that is nice. AFTER that, lets see. I wouldn't say either the IS6 or Glacial is any better than your IS3. IS6 is a bit more manuverable than the IS5, but it isn't a huge factor. Less front armor but better side/rear armor. Glacial so-so. I personally think the IS3 is better than both.

Yeah what i thought. Was thinking of maybe getting Lowe just to farm credits on it or something...

There is also the jaggedpanzer sale, that seems tempting. You get lots of extra stuff there, but not sure it's worth. It isn't considered as good as other tier 8 premium tank destroyers according to the info i've found so far...

I guess i need to find a clan then :/

[76561198365326053]

For IS5:

Yeah u can find ANY clan that has researched tier 10. Better if its open clan, u can just click to join, buy the tank... then off to a better clan u can find ! lol

I agree with EolSunder. IS5 seems to be over-all superior to at least IS3 and IS6, if not the other IS variants (Glacial/Defender etc). This comparison is for within IS series only. The lower tier Tiger P, in good hands, can wreck any tank in IS series from tier7 IS upwards to tier9 IS-8 (yeah, me too surprised but it is what it is).

Other tanks (tier7~8) u need to fear (in your IS series): American M6 variants, Tankenstein/Smasher, Lowe, T26E (super pershing premium) etc.

T34 is also situationally good option but u need to know what u are doing, otherwise you will be sitting duck with an over-sized bald head! And T34 can also wreck any IS variant (and VK100 as well), so watchout!

[Raviel]

Originally posted by Imr.Qns:

For IS5:

Yeah u can find ANY clan that has researched tier 10. Better if its open clan, u can just click to join, buy the tank... then off to a better clan u can find ! lol

I agree with EolSunder. IS5 seems to be over-all superior to at least IS3 and IS6, if not the other IS variants (Glacial/Defender etc). This comparison is for within IS series only. The lower tier Tiger P, in good hands, can wreck any tank in IS series from tier7 IS upwards to tier9 IS-8 (yeah, me too surprised but it is what it is).

Other tanks (tier7~8) u need to fear (in your IS series): American M6 variants, Tankenstein/Smasher, Lowe, T26E (super pershing premium) etc.

T34 is also situationally good option but u need to know what u are doing, otherwise you will be sitting duck with an over-sized bald head! And T34 can also wreck any IS variant (and VK100 as well), so watchout!

apparently i need personal supply level 10 as well..
now only have lvl 1, going to take a while to unlock IS5. it does seem worth getting considering the price and stats.

i do have IS8 as well. it isn't as bad as some claim. it's armor is indeed unimpressive but can block some shots. i could see it losing to a Tiger P, maybe... seen VK100, it's a beast, luckly it has 2 pretty big weak spots so not too hard to deal with once you get the trick.
IS uses similar gun to KV-1S, has prety much same armor, and a few more hp points but 1 tier higher on the tree... needless to say i didn't like it at all. it is barelly better than it's tier 6 ancestor so comparing it to good tier 7 tanks (that can actually block shots) feels like a stretch..

should i get anything other than IS5?
like Lowe or something?
anything else good in current patch?

[76561198365326053]

Yeah lowe is good definitely. Very strong frontliner, brawler vs some other heavies. It can definitely hold a line if played correctly. But I dont have first hand experience in it. Nevertheless, I never heard any noteworthy cons abt it. Go ahead!

IS itself is good tank. Nice alpha and mobility compared to its rivals. Its a blend of medium+heavy and depending upon ur and enemy team compositions, u need to adjust how u gonna play. U cant do fist fights with Tigers etc. For me, IS is definitely a keeper. Almost all tanks have to play second line when matched uptiers. IS2 (chinese_) ... just grind and sell it asap.

If u can stay away from IS6... dont get it. IS5 is every thing u can enjoy more. I got IS6 from last year's May event. IS5 feels superior overall.

There is an M6 variant in tier8. I dont know how to get it. But if u are a fan of M6 (tech tree) or the M6Exyz, then u may wanna look into these. I did not like them coz they are way too huge and tall. That certaily gives u tons of advantages in hulldowns, brawling against certain tanks etc etc but also very easy to hit in most situations, esp if caught out in open. There is a lot of vulnerable space in ur front and if u turn ur huge turret side a bit... its just delicious butter and cream for every one...

Chrysler is new , i haven't seen any videos on it... and since it came out a month or two ago... i saw it only twice so far. Sorry, cant give u a decent opinion. Apparently, it looks familiar to that newer tier10 german heavy. Turret is mounted at far end. IS2-Sh is similar too. Its a rare rare sight... dont recall any thing significant abt it.

There are premium french tanks too, rare to see... nothing special comes to mind.

The Glacial, Defender etc etc... they are good too and very similar to IS6/IS5. Defender has troll armor like IS5,,, can be very hard to pen if u dont pay attention. I think it has autoloader (or multiple guns to choose from... sorry here!). I have bounced many many shots on clear angles too! lol

American T34... If u know how to play it in hulldown, u will tremendously enjoy it. But if thats not ur style, DONT even touch it! lol

Regarding IS8, yeah i heard a lot of negative criticism abt it... but keeping every thing in perspective, IS8 is a decent blend of medium+heavy. No way a front liner/brawler. Dont get caught in bad spot, u cant hold on your own without support. I absolutely love its gun and its mobility. For me, its a keeper. It can be penned almost by every one... If played correctly however, it can wreck the day of flanking meds/lights. I see if i can stay on the side of meds to supp them and flank (if appropriate) with supp of meds/lights.

[76561198365326053]

And on VK100... I dont think its OP... but its a marvel for sure. I love it and im gonna keep it.

And I dont think the recent nerfs hit it negatively at all. Its not a sniper (well... its an argument after all). Despite its weakspots (which any other conceived OP tank has one way or another), it can still be played effectively as frontliner (hulldown and or sidescrape), it can brawl, it can hold its line. It can keep enemy guns busy and frustrate the heck out of them. It can go 1v1 against lowe and out play him. And it will severely punish u in ur IS-series if u try to play cocky against him... yup yup the weak hatch and weak lower plate etc etc but thats an argument with every tank. On a good skill basis, VK100 is a dominant threat. PERIOD!!!

On a separate note, update 5.5 has unleashed the hell-horde into wotb. So, most of the player base in tier8~10 is immature. They have best tanks and they play worst.

When I was new to tier8, I wanted to get Lowe/T26 ASAP. After VK100 arrived, im fine now!

[Raviel]

Originally posted by Imr.Qns:

Yeah lowe is good definitely. Very strong frontliner, brawler vs some other heavies. It can definitely hold a line if played correctly. But I dont have first hand experience in it. Nevertheless, I never heard any noteworthy cons abt it. Go ahead!

IS itself is good tank. Nice alpha and mobility compared to its rivals. Its a blend of medium+heavy and depending upon ur and enemy team compositions, u need to adjust how u gonna play. U cant do fist fights with Tigers etc. For me, IS is definitely a keeper. Almost all tanks have to play second line when matched uptiers. IS2 (chinese_) ... just grind and sell it asap.

If u can stay away from IS6... dont get it. IS5 is every thing u can enjoy more. I got IS6 from last year's May event. IS5 feels superior overall.

There is an M6 variant in tier8. I dont know how to get it. But if u are a fan of M6 (tech tree) or the M6Exyz, then u may wanna look into these. I did not like them coz they are way too huge and tall. That certaily gives u tons of advantages in hulldowns, brawling against certain tanks etc etc but also very easy to hit in most situations, esp if caught out in open. There is a lot of vulnerable space in ur front and if u turn ur huge turret side a bit... its just delicious butter and cream for every one...

Chrysler is new , i haven't seen any videos on it... and since it came out a month or two ago... i saw it only twice so far. Sorry, cant give u a decent opinion. Apparently, it looks familiar to that newer tier10 german heavy. Turret is mounted at far end. IS2-Sh is similar too. Its a rare rare sight... dont recall any thing significant abt it.

There are premium french tanks too, rare to see... nothing special comes to mind.

The Glacial, Defender etc etc... they are good too and very similar to IS6/IS5. Defender has troll armor like IS5,,, can be very hard to pen if u dont pay attention. I think it has autoloader (or multiple guns to choose from... sorry here!). I have bounced many many shots on clear angles too! lol

American T34... If u know how to play it in hulldown, u will tremendously enjoy it. But if thats not ur style, DONT even touch it! lol

Regarding IS8, yeah i heard a lot of negative criticism abt it... but keeping every thing in perspective, IS8 is a decent blend of medium+heavy. No way a front liner/brawler. Dont get caught in bad spot, u cant hold on your own without support. I absolutely love its gun and its mobility. For me, its a keeper. It can be penned almost by every one... If played correctly however, it can wreck the day of flanking meds/lights. I see if i can stay on the side of meds to supp them and flank (if appropriate) with supp of meds/lights.

i saw some Chrysler K.
here some vidio about it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIgRiBlAeSQ

i actually like how t29 and t32 look(don't have them) due to their massive turret armor but previous versions not so much... would be quite a grind to unlock those. might consider in future, trying to get IS 7 first..

Actually all tanks can bepenetrated by almost everything even VK 100 and Mauschen, the tankiest i've seen yet can be easily penetrated from sides / behind or via a weak spot.
sure if you get good sidescrapping position you can block everything, but again almost every heavy tank can do that... it isn't unique to any of them and if you get flanked or kited your armor doesn't do much on any tank....

Originally posted by Imr.Qns:

And on VK100... I dont think its OP... but its a marvel for sure. I love it and im gonna keep it.

And I dont think the recent nerfs hit it negatively at all. Its not a sniper (well... its an argument after all). Despite its weakspots (which any other conceived OP tank has one way or another), it can still be played effectively as frontliner (hulldown and or sidescrape), it can brawl, it can hold its line. It can keep enemy guns busy and frustrate the heck out of them. It can go 1v1 against lowe and out play him. And it will severely punish u in ur IS-series if u try to play cocky against him... yup yup the weak hatch and weak lower plate etc etc but thats an argument with every tank. On a good skill basis, VK100 is a dominant threat. PERIOD!!!

On a separate note, update 5.5 has unleashed the hell-horde into wotb. So, most of the player base in tier8~10 is immature. They have best tanks and they play worst.

When I was new to tier8, I wanted to get Lowe/T26 ASAP. After VK100 arrived, im fine now!

I thank god actually for getting matched mostly against such players that on VK100 that just go forward thinking they are invincible and eat 2-3 ~400 damage shoots before realising they actually have to hide their weak spots.... but again every heavy tank can sidescrape their massive armor doesn't change much at that.

i mainly want a premium tank to get credits faster. i spent like 6 millions on that IS-8 + equipment and can't even use any provisions to avoid getting negative credit's income. going to need probably more than that for IS 7 when i unlock it, sure i got time, but i can earn reliably maybe ~10K per game on my KV-1S and about as much on IS-3 (sure sometimes i get those games where i do 3+k damage and get 30k credits but those are rare unfortunately, i'm not that good yet....)

in videos i see people making over 100k per game even considering it's with premium it is quite impressive. i'd be glad to make 30K consistently without having to work for it that much..

Chanses are i'm going to unlock IS 7 long before i get my access level to 10 to buy IS 5 so need to consider other options...

Thanks for the through analisys. it is very helpfull

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nicew

[76561198365326053]

Yeah, tier10 is very costly in all aspects. I started grinding credits for IS7 during the first Mad Games event (october 2018 i think). And I finally completed somewhere in this month together with full equipment etc. It was my first tier10 tank while having been playing for more than one and a half year. It left me with a million creds only. Im guessing I will be able to get my next tier10 , some where next year hahaha.

Tier5~6 may be better for credits grinding using tech trees. AC IV event was pretty easy, I hope u got it. You can spam it to speed up ur grinding, together with credit boosters/premium certificates as you may find appropriate.

Vet players, especially those who have years of experience in WoT PC, they mostly spam TD's and specific heavies to do tons of damage to boost cred/xp earnings etc. They also abuse 'farming' techniques to get more damage/xp... which may or may not hurt ur team but surely u can rack up damage for urself. etc etc etc

[Raviel]

Originally posted by Imr.Qns:

Yeah, tier10 is very costly in all aspects. I started grinding credits for IS7 during the first Mad Games event (october 2018 i think). And I finally completed somewhere in this month together with full equipment etc. It was my first tier10 tank while having been playing for more than one and a half year. It left me with a million creds only. Im guessing I will be able to get my next tier10 , some where next year hahaha.

Tier5~6 may be better for credits grinding using tech trees. AC IV event was pretty easy, I hope u got it. You can spam it to speed up ur grinding, together with credit boosters/premium certificates as you may find appropriate.

Vet players, especially those who have years of experience in WoT PC, they mostly spam TD's and specific heavies to do tons of damage to boost cred/xp earnings etc. They also abuse 'farming' techniques to get more damage/xp... which may or may not hurt ur team but surely u can rack up damage for urself. etc etc etc

i had AC IV from before the event. got it from chest. it isn't really my kind of thing, i have 49% win rate on it, most tanks i play are 60% +-4%. since i'm not good at it i end up doing low damage most games and mostly earn pretty much same credits as i would on a regular tank. so i desided not to play it. it only dropped my overal win rate without giving reasonable credits boost and lastly it is less fun for me to play than other my tanks that i actually play...

that's why i'm looking more for heavy or tank destroyer, something to fit my play style better..

i guess i'll focus on getting IS 5 for now and hope that next event will offer some good tank at a discount...

[Raviel]

update: got SU 122-44 from the event, gonna say i'm impressed. the armor is fair and nicely slopped. my heavy tanks don't bounce as much shots as it does, the gun is fair and it is reasonably fast moving. credits earning potential is not bad either, compared to what i had previously.

only major drawback is i don't enjoy playing my SU 85 as much as i used to, but i think i can live with that..

[Zireth]

the IS6 isn't super but learn it and it will be a tank remover and hard to pen. just rapidly move the hull left and right)

if you have the gold, try the T-34-3, its got bad accuracy on the move but its aim time is 2 seconds and hits in for at least 400. it also has the T54 style armor and when angled is hard to pen

if you have the tier 10 supply and can get the IS5, get it, i have a 65% win rate with it, its just a better IS3 and is wonderful at doing heavy tank things.

[Raviel]

Originally posted by Rachel, The Promised End:

the IS6 isn't super but learn it and it will be a tank remover and hard to pen. just rapidly move the hull left and right)

if you have the gold, try the T-34-3, its got bad accuracy on the move but its aim time is 2 seconds and hits in for at least 400. it also has the T54 style armor and when angled is hard to pen

if you have the tier 10 supply and can get the IS5, get it, i have a 65% win rate with it, its just a better IS3 and is wonderful at doing heavy tank things.

I ended up getting Lowe on discount. Took some time to learn to play it, armor feels like paper lots of times but i love the gun...
I can literally turn turrent inyo the direction of enemy tank, shoot and get a pen sometimes even while moving and hitting a weak spot..
I even used it to hit small weak plates on IS3 turrent once. Didn't think you could actually pen that...

IS6 seems to have quite big weak lower plate. How is moving to sides going to fix that? If there are guns like Lowe's that can snipe a plate ~8 times smaller.

I am going to get IS5 once i unlock it. It's cheap and could be nice to play for variety.

Don't know about other tanks for tier 8. Lowe seems to be enough for credit grind. I get 30-40k on a loss most of the time. If i'm going to get something else would probably need to be very fun to play or something like OP medium with armor similar to a heavy something along the lines of t54 mod 1 if its ever sold again... don't know...

[Zireth]

Originally posted by Raviel:

Originally posted by Rachel, The Promised End:

the IS6 isn't super but learn it and it will be a tank remover and hard to pen. just rapidly move the hull left and right)

if you have the gold, try the T-34-3, its got bad accuracy on the move but its aim time is 2 seconds and hits in for at least 400. it also has the T54 style armor and when angled is hard to pen

if you have the tier 10 supply and can get the IS5, get it, i have a 65% win rate with it, its just a better IS3 and is wonderful at doing heavy tank things.

I ended up getting Lowe on discount. Took some time to learn to play it, armor feels like paper lots of times but i love the gun...
I can literally turn turrent inyo the direction of enemy tank, shoot and get a pen sometimes even while moving and hitting a weak spot..
I even used it to hit small weak plates on IS3 turrent once. Didn't think you could actually pen that...

IS6 seems to have quite big weak lower plate. How is moving to sides going to fix that? If there are guns like Lowe's that can snipe a plate ~8 times smaller.

I am going to get IS5 once i unlock it. It's cheap and could be nice to play for variety.

Don't know about other tanks for tier 8. Lowe seems to be enough for credit grind. I get 30-40k on a loss most of the time. If i'm going to get something else would probably need to be very fun to play or something like OP medium with armor similar to a heavy something along the lines of t54 mod 1 if its ever sold again... don't know...

The IS6 has the 3 plates on its front armor with great angles, the constant moving to the left and right, the armor becomes unpredictable and likely to bounce.

[Raviel]

Originally posted by Rachel, The Promised End:

Originally posted by Raviel:

I ended up getting Lowe on discount. Took some time to learn to play it, armor feels like paper lots of times but i love the gun...
I can literally turn turrent inyo the direction of enemy tank, shoot and get a pen sometimes even while moving and hitting a weak spot..
I even used it to hit small weak plates on IS3 turrent once. Didn't think you could actually pen that...

IS6 seems to have quite big weak lower plate. How is moving to sides going to fix that? If there are guns like Lowe's that can snipe a plate ~8 times smaller.

I am going to get IS5 once i unlock it. It's cheap and could be nice to play for variety.

Don't know about other tanks for tier 8. Lowe seems to be enough for credit grind. I get 30-40k on a loss most of the time. If i'm going to get something else would probably need to be very fun to play or something like OP medium with armor similar to a heavy something along the lines of t54 mod 1 if its ever sold again... don't know...

The IS6 has the 3 plates on its front armor with great angles, the constant moving to the left and right, the armor becomes unpredictable and likely to bounce.

yeah i mistook it for some other tank apparently. it actually has some very nice armor on front.