*SPOILERS ALERT* Impossible to play an honest cop

[MrShadow]

Hello everyone. I have just started to play the game and I refused to help Kendrick and have refused all mafia's requests and was killed. Why I cannot play the way i want? I am trying to stay in the role of an honest old cop who has obligations to his city and tries to fight mafia and avenge his friend and be loyal to the citezens. Why cant I do that? Why am I forced to cooperate with Sand? I have killed my friend in the game and made my decision. Maybe i am doing something wrong? Please advise.

[Taipan]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Wyrtt:

You cant follow a law 100%.

This is true :)) But if you call a cop corrupt because he drove his car on yellow lights, or he crossed the road without using a zebra, you have a problem.

If you believe that all captains are corrupt, then you have a mathematical problem.

Saints are in heaven. People do mistakes, but corruption is a different matter than driving by on the yellow lights or getting a donut for free because the seller likes you because you are a cop.

[Taipan]

And to be clear, this is what corruption means: "dishonest or fraudulent conduct by those in power, typically involving bribery."

If a cop forgets to turn his car lights on in traffic it does not mean he is a corrupt cop.

[Wyrtt]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Stefan:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Wyrtt:

You cant follow a law 100%.

This is true :)) But if you call a cop corrupt because he drove his car on yellow lights, or he crossed the road without using a zebra, you have a problem.

If you believe that all captains are corrupt, then you have a mathematical problem.

Saints are in heaven. People do mistakes, but corruption is a different matter than driving by on the yellow lights or getting a donut for free because the seller likes you because you are a cop.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption
Even just one instance of background checking of your daughterls boyfriend makes you a corrupt cop.
Corruption is not only about stealing millions and taking bribery. Any intentional bending or breaking of the law for your or someone else interest is an act of curruption.

[OatMeteor]

Having problems? read the game name
This is the Police

BOOM! answer right in ya face

[Reefer_Tommy_]

does anyone know if there be a patch to so is that you as a good cop will contest the game and can finish?

[Ratsukare.ttv]

Początkowo opublikowane przez The Third Child:

What I want to know is if you are the chief of police and have experienced detectives at your disposal, why can you not build a long-term case against the scum and clean them out?

Keep playing the game. Sooner or later you'll be able to start a case against the scum, depending on how you play.

If you want to play a honest cop, it's possible. But it's a balancing act because characters in the game are literally putting a gun to your head and force you to work for the mafia. It's part of the game. You don't keep them at least a little bit happy, you get killed.

You don't have to go full out corrupt mafia-lover, you can still try to be good. It's just that you also have to save your own life and keep the mafia somewhat happy.

That's literally the point of the game, you decide how far you're willing to go. If you don't want to help the mafia at all, you get killed. That message was sent very clear very early in the game as well.

[yo]

Kendrick never says being completely honest will net you the half mill, only that netting all the top criminals and getting all the bonuses, pay attention ffs.

[Zebulan]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Tragic Johnson:

Kendrick never says being completely honest will net you the half mill, only that netting all the top criminals and getting all the bonuses, pay attention ffs.

How is that not the same thing?
Sure, not literally. But as a cop, it's your job to "net all the top criminals" and if you do a great job of being a cop (and not a crook) you can "get all the bonuses."

[Zevras]

Playing the way you want doesn't mean you get to WIN playing the way you want.

[Bloddwyn]

I want to play a good cop (lets say 90% good/honest cop at least) and what I absolutely don't want is: doing jobs for the Mafia. So I won't buy and play this game until I am able to do that and finish the game as a good cop.

[Sai Kyouji]

To be fair, honest cop cant possibly earn half a million in 180 days minus some obligatory days off.

Then again, you can always add a 'bitter sweet' ending where despite not being able to meet the goal, he stayed honest I guess. Or get a lot of donation worldwide for good deeds like in a few movies lol

[JonDom]

Yeah I don't understand why the Chief of Police isn't getting a decent pension, it's not very well explained, it just says too bad you aren't getting one...

[Vash]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Zebulan:

The game is advertised as follows:

"Your mission is clear: make $500,000 in 180 days, before Jack Boyd reaches retirement. How? That’s up to you!"

Apparently it's not up to us at all.
Kendrick even says during an intro videos that *you can make $500,000 in 180 days legit* but then the game refuses to let you play like that? I'm confused as to the obviously conflicting messages both in-game and out.

^^
Give this man a cookie. Honestly, I got the game because I like choice. TellTall, BioWare, Obsidian, all that stuff. I was disappointed with the actual "lack" of choice in the game. Dont get me wrong, I really enjoy the game, Im actually praying for and endless mode one day were I can just manage the force and not even worry about the story, dont care if the calls become repetitive, the managment aspect of the game is a total blast, but thats just me. The game play is fun, the voice acting is ... good, but the "choice" aspect really needs work. Just my opinion, no more relevant then any one elses ;P

[Supreme Byzaboo]

Understanding that being an honest cop is different from being a good cop.

You can play the way you want, you can exactly do that. But it has consequences. Acting like they're telling you "no, you can't do that" is wrong. You can do that. The options are there.

They're just really stupid options that lead to you getting a bullet in the head. Morality needs to get flexed sometimes for a greater good. You have to take the knee for a bit before you can shank them in the gut. It's not "unrealistic" that you have to actually apease the people holding an analogical, metaphorical, and literal ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ gun to your head until you can turn the tables.

Get a grip.

[boomermojo]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Vadym Taushan:

Hello everyone. I have just started to play the game and I refused to help Kendrick and have refused all mafia's requests and was killed. Why I cannot play the way i want? I am trying to stay in the role of an honest old cop who has obligations to his city and tries to fight mafia and avenge his friend and be loyal to the citezens. Why cant I do that? Why am I forced to cooperate with Sand? I have killed my friend in the game and made my decision. Maybe i am doing something wrong? Please advise.

You can be honest for the most part. The thing is you're the police chief in a city run by the mafia with a corrupt mayor. You just can't say no to everything and expect to come out unscathed in that scenario. That would actually be unrealistic.

I never explicitly committed a crime on my play through. You need to pick your battles such as allowing them to steal so they wont be so cheesed off that they will murder you when you prevent them from murdering. Or sending them help when a legitimate crime is being committed against the mafia such as kidnapping or armed robbery (to prevent a gang fire fight) and not sending your police to extort or murder on their behalf. Just so you know, it is possible to dismantle the mafia eventually. So see it as doing some evil to do more good.