With regards to Cockpit view

[Loore]

There's a lot of discussion going on within these boards about cockpit view and how it does not feature in GRID 2. Instead of multiple threads please use this one for all cockpit talk, and as always, please keep it civil.

Many of would have already read our reasons why it was not included but in case you've missed it:

We've heard a lot of your thoughts and opinions regarding the lack of cockpit view in GRID 2. To better explain our decision Executive Producer Clive Moody has this to say.

"First of all, it's important to say that every design decision we make is done with a lot of careful consideration and not taken lightly. We're acutely aware of the love there is for GRID in our community and we want to deliver the best possible experience for everyone.

There seems to be some confusion about where we get our data from to help us make these decisions. While we do use research and focus groups, the most important data source for us is the enormous amount of telemetry data we can obtain from our servers that tells us exactly how and what our players are doing across all our games. So it's not a case of just a sample of people we've spoken to in research, it's a fact that only 5% of Codemasters Racing game players ever used the in-car view.

We certainly don't want to alienate any of our fans we want to deliver truly exciting features that 100% of our players will enjoy. Videogame development is always about trade-offs and in this case, taking the hard decision to lose the in-car views for 5% of our players (and remember we still have bonnet cam and bumper cam, which many people with racing wheels use), is something we felt was more beneficial to everyone. They are expensive to run due to the requirement for high-resolution interior textures which are seen close-up and require a considerable amount of in-game memory (to store) and processing (to render).

What this means in practice is that the benefit to our vehicle models, environment models and the hundreds of other things in the environment sapping memory, is huge. By making this educated call, we can use the extra available memory to make the on-track racing a truly mind-blowingly immersive experience.

For example, we can author and run higher resolution vehicle models with more detailed geometry. We can feature higher resolution external vehicle textures and work further detail into our environment textures. We can dedicate more processing power to our improved physics systems, integral to the GRID 2 experience, and push other systems to the next level, such as particles and real-time lighting. And there are many more benefits.

One final point to make is that we’re at the tail-end of the current console generation. We’re now incredibly familiar with the current hardware and have reached the point that we’re getting EVERYTHING possible from it. We’re dedicated to pushing GRID 2 to the next level, making it the definitive racing game on this generation of hardware. Dropping a lesser-used feature such as interior cam frees up the memory and processing power to push the more prominent systems to the next level is a tough decision but it's one we felt had to be made, for the benefit of the majority of players.

If you’re still not convinced, all I ask is that you wait and see what we've got to show you. We've only scratched the surface of what we've got to show you on GRID 2 - there's lots more to coming in the months to follow and I genuinely think that you'll really enjoy it. Come and see for yourself at Eurogamer Expo.

Executive Producer Clive Moody"
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[daniduuk]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Chilligan:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veFZ9NdsYoE

MORE LIKE, SO I WILL RUN,

[daniduuk]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Razor:

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!! nooooooooooo.. I was so looking forward to this game.. pre-purchase, pre-loaded and then came off duty from work to play me new racing game, NO COCKPIT VIEW!!!!! It felt i was playing with a remote control car !!!! crap I want to feel like im in a real race not this ♥♥♥♥!!! I am so pissed off right now!!!!!

SAME HAPPENED TO ME.

[daniduuk]

Grand Prix 4 PERFORMANCE AND INTERIOR VIEW
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Prix_4

[darth_blunted]

I own GRID but did not purchase GRID 2 because all the videos never showed an in car view. Sorry but even a bumper cam view would net you a purchase by me.

I know it's not a sim racer but all serious race game players I have ever played with or have met use an in car view.

I use an in car view for drifting on GT 5....

Glad I came to read the forums first.

[tim4282]

The only thing missing from Grid 2 is cockpit view it is good but if it had cockpit view it would be awesome just like F1 2012, I don't see why they can't do a DLC for cockpit view for PC gamers as we seem to want the cockpit view more, it should come as a normal view with the game but I would not mind paying more if it ment having a cockpit view.

[SabX]

Cockpit view will come in a DLC.....

X

[v2Tec]

I agree to the majority - the cockpit view has to be there.
Why you don't give the player the choice to decide witch view he/she prefers?

[Tallon]

Oprindeligt skrevet af tim4282:

The only thing missing from Grid 2 is cockpit view it is good but if it had cockpit view it would be awesome just like F1 2012, I don't see why they can't do a DLC for cockpit view for PC gamers as we seem to want the cockpit view more, it should come as a normal view with the game but I would not mind paying more if it ment having a cockpit view.

Seriously - why should we pay more for a cockpit view? That's a horrible trend that many producers are doing -- instead of delivering a full game, they deliver part of a game. They cut features, and then add them back in as DLC we have to pay extra for. A cockpit view should not be considered DLC content, but an essential part of the game. Then players can choose what view to use.

[Axe]

Oprindeligt skrevet af darth_blunted:

I own GRID but did not purchase GRID 2 because all the videos never showed an in car view. Sorry but even a bumper cam view would net you a purchase by me

It has a bumper cam view or am I missing something here?

[bl0b]

You must be missing that the bumper is outside the car. Said "in-car", not "on-car".

[[SF 59]Psychologist]

well, its sad that there is no cockpit view... but this game is so awsome that if you dont buy it just because of the cockpit view, then you fool(sorry for saying it). codmasters do great job and those who just complain about all the things, they will find what "not good" in game even if the game is perfect...

[Anon]

Oprindeligt skrevet af SF 59Sniper:

but this game is so awsome

You play Call of Duty, you can't say which game is good and which not.

[bl0b]

I did give it a try. It's that kind of game you play with a game pad. Total arcade-y controls. Makes me not regret so much now the absence of trackir support and driver POV. I'll definitely not purchase this game until it's on heavy sale.
As they said in Robocop, I'd buy that for one dollar! But no more.

[Axe]

Oprindeligt skrevet af bl0b:

You must be missing that the bumper is outside the car. Said "in-car", not "on-car".

What?

Oprindeligt skrevet af darth_blunted:

...Sorry but even a bumper cam view would net you a purchase by me

That means he would buy it if there were a bumper cam view, to me...

[Dux Corvan]

It's annoying enough to have a dumbed down, silly version of what could be a wonderful game, but what's more infuriating is them treating and telling you lies like you are an idiot, and vanishing in thin air when it is obvious they don't have any satisfactory excuse for their customers.