Turn off Delayed Response?

[Jestahr]

I accidentally enabled this and I have no idea what it has done to my windows install.

PLEASE EXPLAIN!!

[NullBy7e]

Read: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20141113153643-13386347-what-is-delayed-ack-and-how-can-it-be-a-bottleneck-in-your-network

TL;DR: So delayed ACK is basically a bet.

Basically Delayed ACK is the destination retaining the ACK segment a period of time (200 ms in Microsoft Windows by default), expecting one of two things to happen:

1) That a new segment will arrive that will also require acknowledge, so we can ACK two segments in one pure ACK instead of in two separate ACKs; avoiding that way to transmit over the network 41 extra bytes.

2) That, perhaps, before the ACK timer expires, the destination will need to send some data back to the source in which we can include the ACK bit and the right ACK sequence number to acknowledge the segment (piggybacking).

Enable/Disable: http://www.docke.org/news/how-to-disable-delayed-acks-in-windows/

[Jestahr]

Pear님이 먼저 게시:

RRC Jestahr님이 먼저 게시:

I have tested and this is incorrect.

The tool adds registry keys that ARE NOT REMOVED OR ALTERED when you rerun the tool unchecking the box.

I had to manually delete the keys I found, but there may more or other files manipulated that I am unaware of.

To reiterate running the tool unchecked does not remove the registry keys i found.

Are you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ thick? Did you read one word of what the person said.

He said " then it will remain how you last did it." he DID NOT say " it will remove/alter/ go back to how it was" you utter cretin.

He implied that depending on the setting you chose in the tool it will either enable/disable the functionality.

That is incorrect. Once the tool is run once, it permentantly adds a registry key to your TCPIP settings. Currently that is the only thing I've found the tool does, but without reverse engineering the source code I have no way of knowing what else it changes. With no official word from the developers it's all speculation.

Maybe you should read you moron.

[Nova]

I cant see any answer from the devs and the responses here dont assure me it is only one registry value thats changed. I have already reported the game to steam but i dont know what that will do. If there's no answer from the devs in a few days i am gonna assume the worst and try to reinstall windows. Such a pain.....

[Sand]

Nova님이 먼저 게시:

I cant see any answer from the devs and the responses here dont assure me it is only one registry value thats changed. I have already reported the game to steam but i dont know what that will do. If there's no answer from the devs in a few days i am gonna assume the worst and try to reinstall windows. Such a pain.....

It's only that one registry key, don't go so overboard lol

[Jestahr]

OriginalGamer87님이 먼저 게시:

@Pear - Acutally OP was right to correct me as I had falsely assumed everything was back to normal after re-running the application, without double checking to make sure. He was right, you still have to manually edit your registry back. No need to be hostile towards people.

@OP - The tool only does that registry edit. that is all the delayed ACK is. People have been nice enough to post multiple links to articles about this topic that clearly explains it. Don't know why you think it is changing things elsewhere in your computer. Read the post from the links NullBy7e posted. It is not a big of deal as you are making it.

This is a good thread where people can get informed about this topic, lets try to keep it civil.

You have no evidence of what the tool does, we are only assuming it adds that registry key only, as that is the most logical explination. There is no documentation from the devs explaining what the tool actually does. In reality we are simply assuming that's all the tool does. Until someone checks the code of the tool or the devs chime in we can't be 100% sure.

[Nova]

OriginalGamer87님이 먼저 게시:

The tool is for turning off delayed response. The only proccess that is involved with this is the registry edit. Those are facts not assumptions.

The worrying part about it is that if it is so simple as you say why havent anyone from the development team responded to this here or the similar thread in icarus forums?

[NullBy7e]

The only value that it changes in the registry is TcpAckFrequency = 1.
TcpAckFrequency = 2 is the Windows default.

*1* is horrible for TCP connections and will prevent you from connecting to anyone that have a ping greater than 200ms.

I couldn't play with my US friend because of this.

[Elemental]

So manually set the frequency back to default settings, ran the tool and unchecked the delayed response option and went so far as to delete the tool to prevent it from re-opening on launch. However the game itself will thereafter continue to change your TcpAckFrequency back to 1 if you allowed the tool to change it in the first place.

Edit: Yes you can still manually change the key back to 2 but this is still obnoxious as ♥♥♥♥ and dampens any desire to play the game further.

[NullBy7e]

Heil Honey, I'm Home님이 먼저 게시:

So manually set the frequency back to default settings, ran the tool and unchecked the delayed response option and went so far as to delete the tool to prevent it from re-opening on launch. However the game itself will thereafter continue to change your TcpAckFrequency back to 1 if you allowed the tool to change it in the first place.

Edit: Yes you can still manually change the key back to 2 but this is still obnoxious as ♥♥♥♥ and dampens any desire to play the game further.

Yea, I really don't understand their decision on that.

[zant]

after reinstalling the game, reboot and deleting the tool keeps it changing it to 1.
everytime right after the start i have to change it to 2.

any ideas or solutions for it?

[Wrexti]

The tool ran upon launching the game. I UNCHECKED the box and hit escape to get out of it, and every entry in my registry is set to '1'.

What's the point of even giving an option if they're going to change it anyway!?

[physixtential]

Sgt.Thompson님이 먼저 게시:

The tool ran upon launching the game. I UNCHECKED the box and hit escape to get out of it, and every entry in my registry is set to '1'.

What's the point of even giving an option if they're going to change it anyway!?

1 doesn't mean they changed it. This is a very old and well established improvement for online gaming. It has been around and a life saver since at least World of Warcraft BC. Back then we referred to it as tcp nodelay. It is generally a good idea with todays ISP performance. '1' just means something is enabled. They may have been asking to disable something, '0'.

[KronikSempai]

wait this is not a good thing? Uh oh... I think we all need to report this game to steam, hopefully steam will have the entire game removed.

[Jestahr]

Devs never responded. All I ever found was that registry key, but no idea if anything else was effected as no word from dev or someone to reverse engineer the tool.