Spoiler! Can someone please explain the picture?

[dkei864]

Honestly, I don't understand a single thing about Lucrezia , but I gave up on that anyway.. However, there's a picture of her upstairs, if you interact with it, you get a loud scream and you get something like 'something something happened in the depths'.
What I don't undertand is, how is that related to the stuff that's happening in the depths and does it change anything if you don't interact with the picture?

I've been trying SO hard to put the story together, oh my god, you have no idea. OH and don't even get me started on the tomb where you find all the treasure what's up with that?!
Please help D:

[Eisbein]

I can explain to you everything, oink. The most people can only see the surface, but I can understand the deep symbols underneath.

Focus on the pig. At the end of the game, if you use the mirror with the pig he will reveal himself as the truly hero of the story, flying naked to the sky and dancing with Lucrezia all night long.

[dkei864]

Alright. When the one person to respond is Eisbein, there's just no point to.. I don't even.. agh, whatever!
psst, Einsbein! Where should I stick the mirror? :D

[Baroque Decay]

Well, Is not much fun if we give you all the answers. Also you ask a lot of questions! Why don't you throw some theories and we can tell you if you are right or wrong? (n_n)

But just to let you know, the paint of Lucrezia doesn't trigger anything more than the scare. The screaming of her is coming from the depths of the castle, is just a tip for what you are going to face in the future.

[dkei864]

Of course it is a lot more fun to find stuff out! Mystery and all that good stuff. It's just that I didn't get the picture, but thank you for enlightening me about it.

Well, from what I understand, pretty much all the things that happen in the castle make sense, since the curse can pretty much do anything with Hans' memory.. Anything that happens at the castle is trick, as Patronia says, if I recall correctly.

Which, now that I think about it, just raised even more questions........... STOP DOING THAT!

If anything that happens there is a trick, doesn't that make it fake which should be picked up by the ring? Tho, I guess since the curse on the castle is real, it makes sense that the ring picks up tricks WITHIN the curse. But if magic exists outside the castle aswell (thinking about the ending where Hans and his mother sought a witch to lift the curse), why does the ring stop working outside? Was the ring itself part of the trick?

What about Hans' memory? Mother explains Hans' father died when he was a baby, so there's no way Hans can remember his father's face. Yet the curse has a physical appearance for the father, obviously summoned from Hans' memory, according to what Patronio says. Or maybe it was more of like an assumption-thing by the curse? Just a "make up something, Hans won't know anyway" sort of thinking. Or did Hans' mother describe to him how his father looked like? But that means the curse can do a lot more than just manipulating memories, which makes sense, nobody ever said that using memories is the only thing the curse is capable of.

What about the people that stand around the throne? I'm guessing Hans must have seen them somewhere, maybe in the village, which would make them a memory, even if Hans can't recall who they are, the brain can contain an insane amount of detail and store it away, sometimes even without us knowing about it. Okay, nevermind this question, the people there makes sense to me. Same for the servants. I'm not saying Hans saw anything in the village even remotely close to what the servants look like, but everything feared by a person is stored, so again, the curse might have used those faces for the servants because Hans has them in his brain as "be afraid of anything that looks like this". This, again, can only be true if the curse is capable of more than just memory manipulation tho.

Then there's Count Lucanor... same thing, where did his face come from? Hans doesn't recognise him. If the face came from the village, then why does Patronio recognise the old lady that gave us the ring? Patronio doesn't say anything about the other people. In fact, Patronio seems confused when Hans says they have "serpents" as servants in the kingdom where he comes from. And Patronio's confusion makes sense, since he would not know about such things, the servant probably look all different to him than to Hans. Basically, what I'm saying is, if the curse is using memories and possibly also using assumptions, shouldn't all the people and servants look different for everyone? Sure, Hans can see the old lady, but Patronio doesn't share memories with Hans, so why does Patronio recognise the old lady as the one who gave the ring to Hans?

Alright, I'm probably thinking WAAAAY too much about this, and I really shound't. Just tell me it's magic! Tell me anything, I'll take it as an answer for everything, I just want to sleep well q.q

ps. I'm sorry about the grammar/wording, I am just now sobering up from a crazy night, had way too much and need to sleep

[Baroque Decay]

Ok, you are right in a lot of things.


The curse works in several ways, first, it captured and corrupted a castle and its people, they are like ghosts that wake up every night to do its duty. (Look what it did with Patronio look, he was a usual person before) So everyone that enter in the castle at night will see the same creatures. And the second way is messing with your brain and mixing the story of the castle with your own life. The curse adapt its own story to the hero.

Sure, the magic exists in the "real life" of the Lucanor world. In the first place a witch enchanted the castle... The ring is part of the trick. Similar to the worm, outside the castle is only an usual worm.

The curse is only using a real soldier that was in love with Lucrezia and adding the father thing over it. If other besides Hans enter the castle, maybe will see that soldier as his brother or his old friend, etc.

Same with the three characters, they are not the same as the "real life". You have a good point, "What is seeing Patronio", for me he is seeing the same "story-lie" as the Hero in that specific night. What is always common to everyone is that in that castle there were a witch, a merchant, and a young soldier who died at war.

And the donkeycorn... that's tricky. XD

[dkei864]

Oh thank you. Thank you so much. I shall have a good rest tonight, finally! And thank you, for this game. I'll be keeping my eyes on you guys <.<