The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky the 3rd

The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky the 3rd

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Kaitos May 16, 2021 @ 5:04am
Info on Zero and Azure?
So, I played FC and SC now, starting with the 3rd later.
But my question is: will the next two games, Trails of Azure and Zero be released in english?
I found both games on steam with a release summer/fall 2021, yet they seem to be the chinese version. Also, I could not find any news regarding this, everything was at least 2-3 years old.
Any chance we get an official translation?
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Hog D. Rider May 16, 2021 @ 5:18am 
a bunch of the trails games (im not sure if its all of them) got separate versions on steam a few months ago which are being released by a korean/chinese publisher, they have nothing to do with x seed, who published most of the trails games in english, or falcom, other than the fact that its their game. idk why theyre even available for people to buy in english countries, but yeah. those dont confirm or deconfirm anything, i just bought the japanese version of zero and downloaded and english patch, thats your best bet for now and the near future
Pafti May 16, 2021 @ 6:29am 
Originally posted by Nullus:
... idk why theyre even available for people to buy in english countries...
There are people that speak Chinese and/or Korean and live in English speaking countries.
And you buying a Japanese game to then install a fan patch for an English translation should make it pretty clear how there can be value to being able to buy games even if one doesn't understand any of the included languages.
As a consumer you should never want to be locked out of buying something just because you live in a certain country.

Zero no Kiseki Kai has a fan patch to get the Geofront translation working on the Nintendo Switch release, it's not a crazy to hope for a PC patch for these games as well, even if Geofront isn't providing one themselves.
An official localization of the Crossbell games isn't impossible, but you shouldn't hold your breath for one. It could very well take a few more years.
Kaitos May 16, 2021 @ 7:12am 
Okay, thank you.
I will probably wait a few years, since I do have a lot of patience. But I might look into the translation from geofront and check it out. I hate inconsistences in translations, so I am very picky
Last edited by Kaitos; May 16, 2021 @ 7:13am
Serval May 16, 2021 @ 8:07am 
There is a decent translation made for PC chinese port that was done before Geofront for both Zero and Ao, so you're welcome to play this one if you want. I played both of Crobell games before Geofront made a release and I can say that the only huge difference in these versions is turbo mode. The mistakes and inconsistencies are presernt in both versions and in the same places as well, so it doesn't really matter what version to choose as both of them provide the important information correctly.
Hippias Minor May 26, 2021 @ 4:33pm 
Honestly...I doubt it will ever get any better than the Geofront patches.

I've just dipped my toes into their Zero patch, and it is very high quality. You'll find others with the same testimony. (And I suspect their translators are every bit as picky as the OP.)

It's hard for me to see any likely future in which the games get a better version in English. There is little profit motive for Falcom to invest in an English port when it has already been done so well by Geofront. Perhaps there is some future where Falcom invests in a complete remaster of the Crossbell games, available in English, but I just don't see it happening as a priority project.

Maybe I'll eat my words, but I'd advise the OP to be willing to jump into the Geofront versions. No sense in waiting for Godot.
Dragon May 26, 2021 @ 9:30pm 
Originally posted by Akaya.Kaito:
Any chance we get an official translation?

Very small chance.

And if they were to release official versions in English, then they would merely be re-portings of the abysmally-bad, horribly-botched "Kai" ports.

That means that even if they were to release official versions, they would be far worse than the Geofront versions anyway, and the official versions would therefore never be worth buying nor playing (which is also a key reason as to why NISA probably wouldn't be foolish enough to agree to the projects in the first place).

So, you might as well use the Geofront versions, since they would be the best versions that are ever going to be available.

Originally posted by Pafti:
it's not a crazy to hope for a PC patch for these games as well

It's crazy on the basis that it makes no sense to want to patch vastly inferior versions of the games, rather than instead to play the patches on the vastly superior versions of the games that they were originally made for.

Originally posted by Serval:
I can say that the only huge difference in these versions is turbo mode.

Disagree that turbo mode is "the only huge difference."

The most important difference between the Geofront versions vs. the non-Geofront versions, is that the non-Geofront versions have shaking text every time dialogue occurs, which is colossally aggravating, and something that makes the non-Geofront versions totally unplayable.
Last edited by Dragon; May 26, 2021 @ 9:40pm
Kaitos May 26, 2021 @ 10:52pm 
Yes yes, I know I know...
I am now in chapter 6 in tloh3rd and I am already loading trails of zero now. you convinced me, mkay?
Koby May 27, 2021 @ 7:45pm 
Originally posted by Akaya.Kaito:
Any chance we get an official translation?
A very HUGE chance. In fact the Kai versions of the games were made specifically to make it easier for bringing the games to the West. Falcom has on numerous occasions expressed intent to have them localized.

So it's more of when rather than if....

And the best time to do it is before NISA releases Hajimari, as Hajimari loads saves from the Kai versions of Zero and Ao.

Originally posted by Dragon:
even if they were to release official versions, they would be far worse than the Geofront versions anyway, and the official versions would therefore never be worth buying nor playing (which is also a key reason as to why NISA probably wouldn't be foolish enough to agree to the projects in the first place).

So, you might as well use the Geofront versions, since they would be the best versions that are ever going to be available.
You keep saying this BS but no one agrees. Real fans will buy them... Unlike you who just pirates and reads reviews about the games rather than personally play them yourself.
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Kaitos May 29, 2021 @ 12:44am 
Originally posted by Koby:
Real fans will buy them...
Yeah... like me. I bought Trails in the Sky FC two times and trails of cold steel, too.
Last edited by Kaitos; May 29, 2021 @ 12:45am
Hippias Minor Jun 24, 2021 @ 7:01pm 
So...if a certain rumor from Siliconera turns out to be true, I might just be going on a crow diet sometime soon...
Koby Jun 24, 2021 @ 7:20pm 
Originally posted by Hippias Minor:
So...if a certain rumor from Siliconera turns out to be true, I might just be going on a crow diet sometime soon...
Well Zero, Azure, Reverie (Hajimari), and Nayuta were "accidentally" confirmed by Epic having listed them. Also shows that NISA is localizing them. Now we just need to wait and see if it's Epic exclusive or will also be hitting Steam.
Koby Jun 24, 2021 @ 10:56pm 
https://geofront.esterior.net/2021/06/25/from-fantasy-to-reality-our-partnership-with-nis-america/

NISA partnered with Geofront for the Crossbell games. =P

Geofront removed their fan patches as a result.
Kaitos Jun 24, 2021 @ 11:42pm 
Well, sadly I already played both games and already startet cs II already. Still, I will buy those games if they come to steam. Gotta complete my collection!
Dragon Jun 25, 2021 @ 4:54am 
Originally posted by Koby:
A very HUGE chance. In fact the Kai versions of the games were made specifically to make it easier for bringing the games to the West.

Yes, but at the time when Falcom issued the command to make the Kai ports, they didn't know that the Kai ports would turn out to be terrible. So, after they came out whilst being terrible, that changed the dynamic, and made it so that their original intention would not be viable anymore.

As for the news that they now will be coming out officially: that was only made possible because of something else unforeseen also changing the dynamic. That is, what all the translators always used to say would be never be possible to happen --- namely, every single one of them who ever did any work on the translations agreeing to sell the scripts to NISA - actually happened.

Had that "impossible" thing not happened, then there would indeed have been a very low chance of the Crossbell ever games ever coming to the West officially.

By this miracle, NISA was saved a huge amount of the cost of releasing the games, because they don't have to pay their own employees to translate them. And it also allows NISA to buy out their competition, via causing the Geofront translators to remove their mods and translations patches off of their site, so that the public cannot access them any more, and thus is now forced to use either the NISA versions, or nothing.

Yet had NISA not been saved those costs, and had Geofront not sold their scripts to NISA, and had the Geofront versions remained in direct competition with any forthcoming NISA versions, then the situation would have remained as a radically different situation, and one in which the Crossbell games probably would not have been financially viable in those circumstances.

So my point being: these releases didn't suddenly happen just because some years ago, Kondo said he wants them to, back at a time when the circumstances were way different.

Rather, these releases happened only because of the miraculous happenstance that NISA was able to buy the Geofront scripts.
Last edited by Dragon; Jun 25, 2021 @ 5:00am
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