Zero no Kiseki [Eng - Unofficial]

[Mouse...]

Hey guys, sorry if this post is inappropriate, just tell me and i'll edit/delete this post.

Just wanna let you guys know, there's a english patch released just recently (probably leaked) for psp version of 'tloh-trails of zero'.

The translation may not be perfect, but if you want to experience the game to at least understand what happen after sky/sora, try it. Otherwise wait for future official release (if there's any).

Again, sorry if this is inappropriate, just let me know or delete it.

Example :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf3JF8Cunjk

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You may also want to compare this patch to manual translation in this spreadsheet :

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-zCDSQ2qOKEiIAr4lcOodpuP8mTTJj_aRpaO5XgTRnk

[Missilepom]

oguz.gungor96 の投稿を引用：

Hopyoprop の投稿を引用：

Actually, there is a chinese PC port of this game. So they could base it of the code there. :D. Maybe that'll speed up production of the port and translations are a lot faster now with the efficient improvement in management in Xseed in these games! Looking forward to Zero and Ao one day.

Didn't falcom also, after finding out the chiniese made it, take that port made a better version of it? I remember reading something like that.

It's still 30fps locked. Imagine all the whining if a port like that got released on Steam, esp. when you already have three older games in the series here on Steam running at 60fps

[Kamikaze Ice]

I'd like to think a rare case where an emulator could be used with a bundled version of the game (think Bleem! for a single game). Basically a custom frontend to an emulator that only runs a specific fingerprint/hash/whatever needs to do to not work with roms or other versions of the game, with a translated psp game.

It wouldn't be the best solution, but with a little work could be a very serviceable solution given various restrictions (original platform availability and lifespan, licensing, any rights the Chinese PC port may exclusively have or prevent or otherwise become cost prohibitive), without a company like Xseed breaking the bank or having to start from scratch.


Either way I hope to play the Crossbell games in some form with an English translation, even if it means emulating the PSP version. And I'm willing to wait for a good translation because all the text adds to my enjoyment of this particular series. I am interested in what NPCs are doing as they each have their own life and usually pop up again (hi Anton!), so I'll be avoiding KNOWN unfinished/unready translations.

I don't see how some can play a game using a translated script ala gamefaqs or something. It just dosent feel right to play it that way (and I'm one of those pro-subtitles vs dubbers for anime).

[Sergei Lou]

Kamikaze Ice の投稿を引用：

I'd like to think a rare case where an emulator could be used with a bundled version of the game (think Bleem! for a single game). Basically a custom frontend to an emulator that only runs a specific fingerprint/hash/whatever needs to do to not work with roms or other versions of the game, with a translated psp game.

So, basically, the Steam versions of FFIII, IV, IV TAY, V e VI. Those are wrapped Android Versions into an emulator, IIRC.

[Horus]

Great! I can't wait to play it.
And as I'm not a native english speaker, I won't be bothered by this so called "really bad translation".
Thank you², guys. (:

[Lame Lothar]

Well, I'm not a native speaker and I'm totally going to wait for the definitive version, being a man of wealth and taste.

[Erpy]

Not sure how not being a native English speaker has anything to do with it. I'm not a native English speaker, but I still appreciate the value of a well-polished localization over one that didn't even receive any editing at all.

[Kamikaze Ice]

I think he/she was implying that a non-native speaker would likely NOT beable to judge it's quality. Most speedsubs, for example, are generally "crappy". Unless it was VERY obviously wrong (like Yu Yu Hakusho subs where two main characters names are switched), I would have no way to know if something was not quite right, but when the same is compared to a "quality" sub group the differences can become very notable (tone, mannerisms, dialog matching the context of the scene or conveying the same feeling or intent where things must be localized, etc).

Or maybe I'm implying this is the case? If so, I apologize but what I've mentioned is something to keep in mind as a general statement on this topic.

[AH-1 Cobra]

The translation for Zero isn't terrible, it's just not perfect. But it's more than playable.

Honestly, I got bored with Zero sometime during chapter 1. And considering all the other games out at the moment to play, I put Zero on the back burner.

Being a fan of the Trails in the Sky games, and Cold steel as well, IMO Zero isn't as good as any of the games in either series.

I thought Trails 2nd was better than the 1st. And CS2 was better than 1. Is AO better than Zero?

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Just a reminder, that the Steam Terms of Service forbid discussion about emulators.

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4045-USHJ-3810

"Any discussion of piracy will result in a permanent ban from the Steam Community including, but not limited to: Cracks, Key generators, and Console emulators."

Since the fan translation is only available for *******r versions of the game, I wouldn't risk continued discussion about them. That said, we can still talk about the Crossbell games in general.

crimsonedge11 の投稿を引用：

The translation for Zero isn't terrible, it's just not perfect. But it's more than playable.

Honestly, I got bored with Zero sometime during chapter 1. And considering all the other games out at the moment to play, I put Zero on the back burner.

Being a fan of the Trails in the Sky games, and Cold steel as well, IMO Zero isn't as good as any of the games in either series.

I thought Trails 2nd was better than the 1st. And CS2 was better than 1. Is AO better than Zero?

May I ask why you think Zero wasn't as good as any of the prior 'Trails games?

[Cold_Reverie]

Yes. Ao is supposed to be better than Zero and one of the best games in the series.

In my opinion, one reason why Zero got boring for you was probably because of the translation. I don't see why anyone would want to play that when a better one is coming out soon. I sometimes feel like people forget the 4 year wait for SC. It's not that far away and patience is what every Trails fan should have. It's not like even if we were fully caught up we wouldn't have to wait anymore. We'd still have to wait for the games to be made. xD

I imagine, as well, that this thread would have been deleted already if it was violating any rules.

[Kyle G]

Cold_Steel_III の投稿を引用：

Yes. Ao is supposed to be better than Zero and one of the best games in the series.

In my opinion, one reason why Zero got boring for you was probably because of the translation. I don't see why anyone would want to play that when a better one is coming out soon. I sometimes feel like people forget the 4 year wait for SC. It's not that far away and patience is what every Trails fan should have. It's not like even if we were fully caught up we wouldn't have to wait anymore. We'd still have to wait for the games to be made. xD

I imagine, as well, that this thread would have been deleted already if it was violating any rules.

I agree. Kondo has also said in recent interviews he really wants the Crossbell games to get more exposure internationally. So it's hinting at a good chance Xseed will finally get the licenses for both games. But maybe it will take longer than we expect it to be announced,

[Cold_Reverie]

Sandvich of Peace の投稿を引用：

I agree. Kondo has also said in recent interviews he really wants the Crossbell games to get more exposure internationally. So it's hinting at a good chance Xseed will finally get the licenses for both games. But maybe it will take longer than we expect it to be announced,

This is nothing but hopefull speculation on my part, so take it with a grain of Weissman salt, but for alll we know they could have started localizing Zero while they were still working on Sky the 3rd. I'm also expecting some announcment of some kind before Cold Steel II's PC port releases.

I'm really hoping they don't localize CS III before Crossbell, since CS III spoils some major plot twists from the Crossbell Arc. I'm hoping they bundle CS III and the new CS together as one licensing deal and then do them like how the Sky Trilogy was one deal and CS I and II were another. And if that's the case, they can do Zero and Azure while waiting for the next CS game to come out, and that way they can do all the games.

But again, just hopeful speculation.

[AH-1 Cobra]

Valyrian の投稿を引用：

May I ask why you think Zero wasn't as good as any of the prior 'Trails games?

The character cast isn't all that great. The party lineup, like stats/abilities wise is extremely mediocre compared to the lineup you get in Trails. And you're limited to pretty much the main 4 characters, outside of a few situations where additional members join you temporarily.

Lloyd Bannings is basically a copy-paste of Estelle, combat/usefulness wise. But Estelle is actually a little bit better. I couldn't find a comparison to Agate, or Zin, or Joshua, and Tio is worse than any caster character in Trails. Kloe, just with worse crafts. The problem is her staff weapon is based on STR not ATS, and her normal attacks are pretty much useless a little bit later on. Unlike Kloe's Sanctus Nova, Tio's S-Craft is based on STR, so it's garbage too.

Elie is probably the best character, usefulness wise. ATS almost as high as Tio's and can use a more versatile range of arts. She's got a CP battery craft as well, which is useful. It's similar to one of Alisa's crafts from Cold Steel. She's close to an Oliver + Schera mix with a CP battery craft.

The red headed guy is basically a really poor man's Agate. And I mean really poor. Poor enough to where it's not really an accurate comparison. Outside of the 'big dude with big weapon' thing. He's not even as good as Mueller.

The most mediocre group of 4 you could put together in Trail's 3rd is probably more effective combat wise than the 4 mains in Zero. I'd take a party of Anelace, Mueller, Schera and Josette over Zero's lineup. And that's really close to about the worst performing combat party you could put together in Trails 3rd (IMO).

I thought the trails games were better, and the cold steel series as well.

[randyorlando]

:thinking:
Comparing Zero's cast in combat effectiveness (first game in a duology) to 3rd? A more fair comparison would be FC. Comparing them to CS's cast is even worse considering how braindead those games are.

Tio is a caster, why should her normal attacks not be useless? (although they can actually be decent in Ao for reasons). Her second S-craft is great. Olivier and Schera's S-crafts were great in Sky?

Randy not even as good as Mueller? when two of his early crafts already trivialize most of Zero? yeah okay

[Hagen2900]

crimsonedge11 の投稿を引用：

The most mediocre group of 4 you could put together in Trail's 3rd is probably more effective combat wise than the 4 mains in Zero. I'd take a party of Anelace, Mueller, Schera and Josette over Zero's lineup. And that's really close to about the worst performing combat party you could put together in Trails 3rd (IMO).

Shera is very powerful. Not sure how serious I can thank your other assessments if you write stuff like the above.