how to do the poker(?) minigame??

[big bungo]

i'm gonna be honest with you guys, i have NO idea how to play poker or black jack, whatever game the gambler jack sun door is. i've never played any sort of card game in real life except for uno (if you can even call that a real card game) so all of this is completely lost on me. i don't know what a good hand, bad hand, decent hand looks like. when i did a similar minigame to this while playing jojo's bizarre adventure eyes of heaven years ago, i literally had to have **my mother** do it for me because she was the only person in my household who had any sort of knowledge related to poker/black jack/whatever. i had to use a guide to get through SC's poker minigame!

oversharing aside, what do i do?? i'm in love with the trails series so i want to get as many achievements related to the games as i can, and the sun door achievement is one of my priorities along with the treasure chest one, the moon door one, and the star door one. can someone please help me T_T

[nooblet]

Just aim for a higher total number (Max number is 21) than your opponent for blackjack.
For poker, the 3 cards in the middle of the screen are guaranteed while the 3 on your hands you can either choose to hold or change them. After changing/hold the cards you select 5 of them to play, the one with the higher ranking combination wins (Ex: Two pairs is higher than Pair).

[Shunsatsu]

It might be easier to go search on Google haha.

Haven't started the game yet, so sorry for any possible mistakes.

Anyway for Blackjack, the aim is for the sum of your cards to reach as close to 21 as possible without going over. If you go over, it's an instant loss. If you manage to stay under, you will compare with your opponent(s) to see who has the highest number to determine the winner.

The Ace card is special, you can read it as 1 or 11. J, Q, and K are all considered as 10s. So if your first 2 cards are an A and either 10, J, Q or K, that is known as a blackjack.

If the sum of your first 2 cards is less than 21, you have the option to draw more card(s), so there is some risk here: To try to reach for a larger number for a higher chance of winning, but at the same time your chance of going over 21 (resulting in an instant loss) increases as well.


For poker, it's much more complicated, assuming it's the same as the one in SC:

Each poker deck has 4 suits: Diamond, Club, Heart and Spade. Each suit has a number going from one (Ace) to King. Going in ascending order of strength: 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,J,Q,K,A.

So the aim of this game is to make special "sets" of cards by trading away cards you don't need. Examples of such sets are: pairs, straight, flush. For pairs, all you need is to have 2 of the same card of the same number, eg. having two 3s. For straight, all of your cards must be in a continuously increasing order without skipping any number, eg. having a hand of 8,9,10,J,Q (can be in any arranged order so a 10,8,J,9,Q is still a straight). For flush, all of the cards in your hand must be of the same suit, eg. all Diamonds. There're are still more special sets, but I'll leave that for you to look it up.

There's also the "strength" of sets, for example having 2 pairs or having 3 of the same numbered card is "stronger" than having one pair, in SC you would get more medals for having a "stronger" set as a prize. If the poker in this game has you playing with AI opponents, you'll need to have a stronger set than them or you will lose your betted tokens/medals. Say, if both of you ended up with a pair, he with a pair of 9s while you have a pair of Qs, you will win since Q is bigger than 9.

So for example if you get a hand of 5,7,6,9,5, maybe you will want to hold on to both 5s for a confirmed pair, or you could trade a 5 away and hope to get an 8 to get a straight (which is also more riskier, since you could get a 2 and lose all your bets)

There are actually still more rules for poker but I guess these should do for now.

(actually you can play poker/blackjack with uno cards and vice versa too hahaha ;P)

[big bungo]

Originally posted by Shunsatsu:

It might be easier to go search on Google haha.

Haven't started the game yet, so sorry for any possible mistakes.

Anyway for Blackjack, the aim is for the sum of your cards to reach as close to 21 as possible without going over. If you go over, it's an instant loss. If you manage to stay under, you will compare with your opponent(s) to see who has the highest number to determine the winner.

The Ace card is special, you can read it as 1 or 11. J, Q, and K are all considered as 10s. So if your first 2 cards are an A and either 10, J, Q or K, that is known as a blackjack.

If the sum of your first 2 cards is less than 21, you have the option to draw more card(s), so there is some risk here: To try to reach for a larger number for a higher chance of winning, but at the same time your chance of going over 21 (resulting in an instant loss) increases as well.


For poker, it's much more complicated, assuming it's the same as the one in SC:

Each poker deck has 4 suits: Diamond, Club, Heart and Spade. Each suit has a number going from one (Ace) to King. Going in ascending order of strength: 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,J,Q,K,A.

So the aim of this game is to make special "sets" of cards by trading away cards you don't need. Examples of such sets are: pairs, straight, flush. For pairs, all you need is to have 2 of the same card of the same number, eg. having two 3s. For straight, all of your cards must be in a continuously increasing order without skipping any number, eg. having a hand of 8,9,10,J,Q (can be in any arranged order so a 10,8,J,9,Q is still a straight). For flush, all of the cards in your hand must be of the same suit, eg. all Diamonds. There're are still more special sets, but I'll leave that for you to look it up.

There's also the "strength" of sets, for example having 2 pairs or having 3 of the same numbered card is "stronger" than having one pair, in SC you would get more medals for having a "stronger" set as a prize. If the poker in this game has you playing with AI opponents, you'll need to have a stronger set than them or you will lose your betted tokens/medals. Say, if both of you ended up with a pair, he with a pair of 9s while you have a pair of Qs, you will win since Q is bigger than 9.

So for example if you get a hand of 5,7,6,9,5, maybe you will want to hold on to both 5s for a confirmed pair, or you could trade a 5 away and hope to get an 8 to get a straight (which is also more riskier, since you could get a 2 and lose all your bets)

There are actually still more rules for poker but I guess these should do for now. :poc:

(actually you can play poker/blackjack with uno cards and vice versa too hahaha ;P)

wow, thanks so much for the in depth instructions!! you explained it in a way that i understand so hopefully i'll be able to get past this sun door now. i really appreciate it! if i have trouble again i'll take to google, but i think i should be good for now ^^

[Mizufluffy]

Shunsatsu had a quite good answer but I'd like to clarify a few things regarding the poker. In the 3rd both you and your opponent get 3 cards each and there are also 3 more cards in the middle of the table. You can change or keep some or all of your three cards and after that you form a hand of five cards out of the six (your 3 + 3 in the table) cards.

For example if there is a pair in the table (two of the same number), for example the table has cards Heart 8, Spade 8 and Club 5, and in your cards you have one more of the same number, for example either Diamond 8 or Club 8, then you can get 3 of a kind. Or if there are numbers (regardless of their suit) 4, 5 and 6 in the table and your cards are 3, 7 and 5 then you'd be able to get a straight (numbers from 3 to 7) or a pair (two of 5s).

It's good to remember that the same goes for your opponent too, you both make a hand of five cards out of six cards so you both use two or three table cards for your hand.

Originally posted by Shunsatsu:

Say, if both of you ended up with a pair, he with a pair of 9s while you have a pair of Qs, you will win since Q is bigger than 9.

The possible hands (informed by the rules section of the mini game) are No Pair, 1 Pair, 2 Pair, 3 of a Kind, Straight, Flush, Full House, 4 of a Kind, Straight Flush, Royal Flush. Aside from Roayl Flush being a special case of Straight Flush, most of these hands don't take value of the cards into account. For example a pair of 2s and a pair of Ks is a draw.