why does everyone hate Agate Crosner

[Lieutenant Lorence]

I know he is rude but he is still a nice guy :o

[Chester]

Because everyone is secretly WRONG

[Talithmara]

Jokes aside, I don't interact with the fanbase much, so I didn't know there WAS hate for him.

In all seriousness, he's not especially likeable in FC until Zeiss. Specifically, how despite coming across as a jackass, he still teaches Tita a lesson she sorely needed. He's a jerk with a heart of gold. (Or, if you prefer the term, basically a male tsundere.)

I don't think SC "toned anything down" but rather was simply a natural progression of his character. After his repeated failures to capture/eliminate "Lorence" in the first game, he came to accept that he'd need help against Uroboros. It also doesn't hurt that by SC, Estelle is not only a full bracer, but went through the wringer at Le Locle, teaching her the skills she needed to not slow him down in FC. (And, of course, Anelace had also gone through the same training.)

Heck, a big part of the reason he was such a stubborn jackass was that THE Cassius left him the job, and he didn't want to be looked down on if he couldn't finish it - and rookie bracers (As well as seemingly normal students and preteen girls jumping in without thinking) who were just getting in the way and slowing him down wouldn't lead to a completed mission. Of course, not even Cassius expected everything that happened in FC, or else he'd have never left the country in the first place.

In a way, he reminds me of characters like Haseo from .hack//G.U. At the start, he may seem needlessly dickish, but he's trying to keep others at length so he can focus on an important mission. But then someone who seems like the complete antithesis to his entire being (Tita for Agate, Atoli for Haseo) basically refuses to accept that he's a bad person and slowly breaks through the shell and brings out the best in him. I like characters like this, because the development is, quite frankly, refreshingly human compared to a lot of other games where party joining = instant friendship.

(Bonus points: Olivier hitting on Agate in SC. Agate's reactions were priceless - as was Tita's reaction to hearing that Olivier and Agate were lovers.)


If anything, the only thing I DON'T like about him is combat. In FC when Arts are your god, his arts are trash. In SC when Attacks/Crafts have been buffed, his Craft to sacrifice HP for CP quite honestly uses WAY too much HP (I do vastly prefer the 25% for 50 to the 75% for 150; Agate needs to be at full health or he will die, which is dumb. Couldn't it have been 50% for 100 CP, even? Just SOMETHING LOWER THAN SEVENTY-FIVE!?)

(Also, Erika Russell for best NPC. Seriously. She's hilarious.)

[Sergei Lou]

Originally posted by pibedetorres:

Because everyone is secretly (early the 3rd's prologue spoiler) Erika.

JESUS, NO.

I hate that woman.

[You Can Call Me V]

I didn't know Agate was that disliked in the fanbase. I personally LOVED him the moment he was playable in FC and I still do.

[Lieutenant Lorence]

i hate erika, she is so rude to agate

[Mandrake42]

Originally posted by Lieutenant Lorence:

i hate erika, she is so rude to agate

If you look at it from her point of view she believes a brash man has an unhealthy interest in her underage daughter. She doesn't get that it's a brother sister thing, after all she knows nothing at all about Agate's own dead sister. She is being an overly protective mother and lets be honest, she is pretty prickly to begin with.

[Lieutenant Lorence]

Originally posted by Mandrake42:

Originally posted by Lieutenant Lorence:

i hate erika, she is so rude to agate

If you look at it from her point of view she believes a brash man has an unhealthy interest in her underage daughter. She doesn't get that it's a brother sister thing, after all she knows nothing at all about Agate's own dead sister. She is being an overly protective mother and lets be honest, she is pretty prickly to begin with.

thats true, but why cant tita explain lol

[Mandrake42]

Originally posted by Lieutenant Lorence:

Originally posted by Mandrake42:

If you look at it from her point of view she believes a brash man has an unhealthy interest in her underage daughter. She doesn't get that it's a brother sister thing, after all she knows nothing at all about Agate's own dead sister. She is being an overly protective mother and lets be honest, she is pretty prickly to begin with.

thats true, but why cant tita explain lol

I think it's partly she is just a little clueless as to what her mums problem is. She is pretty innocent after all. It wouldn't occur her to think her mum would think she and Agate had something sexual going on.

[Kyle G]

Because they are jealous that Agate is a badass with a cute blonde girl folllowing him around wherever he goes.