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Zaum Jun 16, 2017 @ 12:23pm
Where to buy - Steam or Ocolus Shop
As Rift owner i am not really usre where to get it. Multiplayerwise its cross plattform? And what about perfomance? And achievements?
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Madfish Jun 17, 2017 @ 2:48pm 
I'd also be interested in this?
Is there cross-plattform support for multiplayer or is Steam and Oculus seperate?
PandaGod Jun 17, 2017 @ 3:28pm 
Steam users can play with Oculus home users. Achievements are custom to each store and will partially be available with the next update. Performance is pretty consistent across both platforms. I'd go with whichever storefront/interface you prefer.
Xilo The Odd Jun 17, 2017 @ 11:45pm 
go with steam, then facebook doesnt get your money.
Zaum Jun 18, 2017 @ 2:44am 
oculus is actually a better platform trhen the greedy steam monopoly. and fb is a social revolution, check your priorities mate :D
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Madfish Jun 18, 2017 @ 4:23am 
Thanks very much PandaGod and it's great that you're supporting true cross-platform play! :)

@Banzai
Oculus Home is a very underdeveloped platform right now. It doesn't even let me filter games (e.g. by multiplayer, genre etc.) for example. SteamVR is miles ahead.

The most important thing to me is that we don't even know what hardware we will use in a year or two. Oculus home doesn't support OSVR or the Vive so it's only usable with the Rift and Gear VR. Thus, while Steam might be more greedy than Facebook right now, it's the safer option if you plan on long term use of VR.
Zaum Jun 18, 2017 @ 5:10am 
Oculus is here to stay.
It was hard for me to decide which device to get, since vive got slightly better roomscale (or much better in really large rooms) but in the end iv got oculus because of better screen (sharper text) and the godlike controllers. Only later after i started to discover vr content on both platforms it became clear how much superior oculus is.
Steam vr library is full with underdeveloped, unpolished gameplay experemens and there is only a handful of good games. On ocolus we already have a library wirh dozens of exclusive games that ofer 10h + gameplay. I dont know where to start - chronos, edge of nowhere, landfall, unspoken and many many more games that are playable on vive only with big workarounds and worse controls. Already next week oculus is getting two more major exclusives with lone echo and wizards tale.
The other thing the content seem to be cheaper, oculus summer sale started for example yesterday - first summer bundle is 70 bucks with climb, raw data, landfall and edge of nowhere.
Considering oculus doesnt rip as much money drom developers as steam, its a no brainer to go with oculus at the moment.
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Madfish Jun 18, 2017 @ 9:19am 
Banzai I'm not sure what you're talking about or if you realize who you're telling this to. I own the Rift (Roomscale with 3 sensors, might need a 4th since tracking is absolute crap) and the Vive. If you need proof you can add me on Oculus (dottedfish).
I can tell you that from my perspective what you're saying is absolutely incorrect on so many levels.

The Oculus store doesn't have generally better quality content and it's not the leading VR platform. It's actually a very bad platform for us consumers as there are no refunds and even simple stuff like I can't even change my language to English and keep the German number / date format. It also has tons of crappy experiences, many of those even being sold. Again, no refund possible though.
The rift also isn't sharper by means of better quality displays (Rift and Vive uses the same displays) - it's just a more compressed FOV hence it feels a bit sharper - personally I dislike the Rift tunnel vision because I don't wear glasses daily.
I bought my Rift with touch and after the Vive and I'm not even sure about the controllers anymore. While it was a cool gimmick at first it's so limited and I feel they're lower quality and a bad hybrid between a controller and a VR glove. I'd rather have that combination instead of the touch controllers which actually only add the fake movement of one finger.

Now the core issue: exclusives
They are bad. It's the worst thing that can happen to VR users. Oculus co-funds a lot of stuff which is neat - but only if it's cross-plattform, will be released on Steam as well and support other HMDs!
None of the titles you mentioned would have to be exclusives either btw. Especially not Chronos which is neat but doesn't even depend on touch controllers. So it's just really bad for VR in general right now to have this going on.
Steam pushes all of VR which is amazing. Oculus supports only the Rift. So once you buy something there you're stuck with the Rift and their controllers forever which I can certainly NOT recommend at all from my personal experience of owning both - and the future is grim as Oculus will likely jump the AR train instead of going full gaming VR.

The leader in VR is playstation VR after the Gear VR. Oculus and Vive users are about equal and then there is OSVR with amazing headsets coming up.



That said again kudos to the devs of Raw Data for releasing on all platforms and enabling crossplay between Oculus and Vive +OSVR users.
Zaum Jun 18, 2017 @ 9:33am 
I understand that you subjectivly prefer vive. I had vive and my expierience is different with it then yours.
But the content is a cold fact.
Its not just chronos (which is an excellent game and i agree with you in this point arstistically they use vr very well) its lone echo and wizards tale, climb, unspoken, edge of nowhere, robo recall, wilsons heart, rockband, dead and burried, damaged core to name a few.
As a customer i would go with rift any time for now, i am buying the device to get as much vr expierience out of it as i can and oculus is the device that can provide this.

I cant follow you regarding psvr - ps4 doesnt have the hardware for vr yet and therefore its very limited contentwise, selling more units is not a factor.
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Madfish Jun 18, 2017 @ 10:36am 
That's probably the issue here - I don't really like a single of the exclusive titles that much. Which honestly includes Fallout 4 e.g. which is a Vive exclusive.
Climb is... weird. Unspoken is just a tech demo to me and not too great. Edge of Nowhere also feels very weird to me (flycam). Robo recall is great, sadly just single player and thus no use to me aside from a few mins (Raw Data is better IMO). Wilsons heart I didn't like at all. Dead and Buried is clunky as well (wanna play some horde? it's multiplayer really as dead as it's name). Damaged core is also clunky and a very bad VR game to me (gamepad in first person?!). Landfall is not as great as Airmech command in my eyes etc.

Lone echo could be great, looks like it gains massively from proper 360° tracking which is simply much better on the Vive. So I'm not sure about that yet as it's not even released so far.
And yeah, the exclusives coming to Vive aren't bad as well if you like them, like Fallout 4 etc. - but that's not my point.

I'm saying I prefer to buy what I can on an open platform. Titles that I can still play in a few years when most of my friends have VR as well. And certainly not everyone will buy a Rift many of my friends have a Vive and I'm certain there will be much more variety in terms of Hardware in the future.
So overall again my recommendation is to definately buy everything VR on Steam if you can.
Zaum Jun 18, 2017 @ 11:28am 
Sorry dude, the unspoken is probably The mutliplayer expierience in vr at the moment. Deep creative tactical gameplay with many beautiful very different maps, very different classes, lots of different builds and developer who is improving the game with balance fixes, new maps and new classes. Imo its bias.
And I hate robo recall btw - way to clean way to unfunny way to easy and boring. The rest i mentioned is quite brilliant imo, only dead and burried suffers from low playerbase there for not worth getting. And honestly mate, would you like to miss out on this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt3tc7D_6hM
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Xilo The Odd Jun 19, 2017 @ 8:57am 
Originally posted by Banzai:
oculus is actually a better platform trhen the greedy steam monopoly. and fb is a social revolution, check your priorities mate :D

lol while i cant deny steam is greedy, oculus is worse. hey lets buy devs up for timed exclusives! we got facebook, one of the worst social media places to be apart of now, backing us so we can do anything!

yeah pass, Vive revolution!
Zaum Jun 19, 2017 @ 9:01am 
fb <3
PandaGod Jun 19, 2017 @ 2:16pm 
Locking since this is off topic now.
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