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Rukio Oct 29, 2017 @ 9:15pm
Communication discussion (Text or Voice Chat)
So after talking with the devs, it seems this is something the community needs to talk about in a discussion. Hopefully this generates enough discussion and an answer for them to put in something extra.

Question>
Is communication going to be available in the game? Being able to write, atleast on PC first, will help with missions. (Context: Myself and my friends have spent extra 10 - 20 minutes on objectives because we had no idea what was going on. Dealing with it now and not being able to help people learn really hurts the community.)

Answer>
MercurySteam
This is a tricky proposition. We have tried to empower communication with the ingame icons, as our community encompasses dozens of different countries and languages. And then there’s the cross-platform component (platforms don’t communicate between each other!) It’s something we are not immediately changing, but we’ll keep an eye on it if we receive an overwhelming number of petitions.


Currently in the game there is a communication wheel to say four different non-voiced options.
"Help!"
"Come with me!"
"I need ammo!"
"OK!"

While this is an ok start, the problem lies in a community unable to talk to each other. Explain things to each other. Grow with one another. As stated earlier. I was stuck in matches where people who take all the Aleph kills and not know to use it on objectives to progress. My biggest thing is I'm not able to make friends. I cannot teach people things that they may have not of known for their class. Heck, I forgot I had character abilities for a long time! Mercury has expressed that issues may pop up due to language barriers. We all know how things get when a language foreign to you enters your chat, people will often make fun of them or try to harass them/troll them.
Let's give them some options!

Some options I have thought on include the following:

-Voice the lines via the character's Voice Actor, that way you're able to distinguish who is talking to you.
Honestly, the text that appears is just a solid color with no black outline, so you barely even see it sometimes. Having characters voice things, kind of like Smite, would be extraordinary. To prevent spam, ensure you can only use a voice line once every <seconds> , if it gets spammed. Disable them from using emotes for <minutes>.

- Added emotes/icons
The current four can be used for maybe... 1/4 of the game. Then there needs to be communication of whats actually going on.
[size=15pt]"Need Aleph to do <objective>"
"Antag has respawned "
"Do the <objective>"
"Cover Me"
"Antag sighted"
[/size]
Adding more and having the above option merged (Character voiced lines) would be pretty great.

- Pre-written messages that auto translate to the user's region language or language of choice.
Final Fantasy XIV has a great example of this. You have tons of text you can select through that has tons of types from greeting, to objective, friendship and goodbyes. This would eliminate the language barrier and as long as certain lines were mission specific, I don't see why this would hurt.

"Use Aleph to overpower the generators!"
"Get on the cannons and shoot the aircraft."
"Use Aleph to overload the Guardians!"
"Kill the snipers!"
"Use Aleph to over charge the prisoners to find the protector!"


- Typing
Now the response received mentions how PC and consoles cannot communicate. Paragon was (not sure if it is or is not still) cross platform, however they allowed PC players to type in chat and the console players were stuck using the emote system, kind of like how it is in Raiders. I'm almost certain the consoles were able to read what the PC players wrote.

- Voice chat
This one is honestly my least preferred. Without proper options to mute people and dealing with people who do inappropriate things (Yell racial slurrs, demean people with lack of proof for reporting, blaring music, etc) this could turn into a nightmare REALLY quickly.

We all know that with the ability to communicate, problems arise. Language barriers, stress, trolling and toxicity. That's where we need to make a proper choice here to get across to players how things work. The game is still fairly new, why not test the water?

Alternatively, you can discuss this at the source:
On their forums[www.mercurysteam.com]
Last edited by Rukio; Oct 29, 2017 @ 9:15pm
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All Most Oliver Oct 30, 2017 @ 12:53am 
There is a Turn on Voice chat option in the settings menu, it might work if ya have "pals" n such (picture) https://gyazo.com/7bcd74638f66c85a46f16d0bb5011a83 (sry, can't deliver a steam screenshot since I play on console version, But it should be just as good :)
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Necr0sys Oct 30, 2017 @ 1:05am 
no need for voice/text chat in my opinion...
The communication wheel is fine, but we need more options. Take a look at Rocket League, they use the d-pad, its perfect and works even in the heat of the match https://i.imgur.com/w2lzCrp.png
All Most Oliver Oct 30, 2017 @ 1:38am 
Originally posted by Necr0sys:
no need for voice/text chat in my opinion...
The communication wheel is fine, but we need more options. Take a look at Rocket League, they use the d-pad, its perfect and works even in the heat of the match https://i.imgur.com/w2lzCrp.png
It's like our Warning's Circle, But more complex!
I LOVE IT!!!
Last edited by All Most Oliver; Oct 30, 2017 @ 1:38am
MadHamster Oct 30, 2017 @ 4:31am 
Well, yeah, they should add some kind of text and voice chat for the Raiders.
Rukio Oct 30, 2017 @ 8:43am 
Originally posted by Necr0sys:
no need for voice/text chat in my opinion...
The communication wheel is fine, but we need more options. Take a look at Rocket League, they use the d-pad, its perfect and works even in the heat of the match https://i.imgur.com/w2lzCrp.png

I agree. I wouldn't mind more emote options. I really prefer the voice actors saying the lines so it's made clear of intentions
76561198435656315 Oct 30, 2017 @ 9:20am 
Hi Rukio!

Those are really good ideas! We are having in mind all your feedback, so thank you very much!
Rukio Oct 30, 2017 @ 10:14am 
Originally posted by khernandezbcm_sw:
Hi Rukio!

Those are really good ideas! We are having in mind all your feedback, so thank you very much!

Thanks for the acknowledgement. Lets the community know we're actually being heard. I'm hoping people will stop by, see this thread and leave their opinions so we can have the proper outcry for Mercury to test the waters for communication in any of the areas mentioned.
Rukio Oct 30, 2017 @ 1:00pm 
If someone reads this and they agree with anything in this thread. Please just say something or +1. Something so the devs know.
Maximus Oct 30, 2017 @ 2:09pm 
I've seen this post of yours on official forums and I'm with you here too! :Lyra:
Rukio Oct 30, 2017 @ 3:10pm 
Originally posted by Drimakus:
I've seen this post of yours on official forums and I'm with you here too! :Lyra:

:FenrirDH::Lycus::Lyra: <3
Last edited by Rukio; Oct 30, 2017 @ 3:10pm
grubnaz Oct 31, 2017 @ 6:44am 
This is a nice idea. I love the system implemented in hi rez studio games (tribes ascend, or paladins...). You have to press several keys to make a complete preprogrammed sentence. For instance, V, D and F results in "defend the flag" ("V" opens the quickchat menu, "D" is for defend, and "F" is the flag). This way, you can make some relatively complexe sentences in only a sec.

Oh, and voice chat is not a super good idea. In 10 years of online gaming, in only heard something useful on the voice chat a dozen of times. 99,9% of vocal communication are insults and random screams.
- T - Oct 31, 2017 @ 11:18am 
I think is missing some auto msgs like: pretty ass, shakes the tits, come to daddy, sweetheart, you look wonderful, I'm getting excited etc.. This is very much missing, it's frustrating not being able to communicate everything I feel :steamsad:
Maximus Oct 31, 2017 @ 12:37pm 
Yeah, need more character voices, like in Overwatch, to feel more alive :P
Rukio Oct 31, 2017 @ 3:04pm 
I definitely agree.
I dont know if MercurySteam has it planned, but character banter with each other would bring volumes of life to this amazing art style game.

On another note, a voice line saying :
"I'm going to hunt the Antag/Imposter!" would be nice.
Definitely Smites option to say phrases would be amazing.
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