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Bagel 2016 年 5 月 25 日 上午 7:58
Transport Tycoon
Hey, is this game like good 'ol transport tycoon by Chris Sawyer?
最后由 Bagel 编辑于; 2016 年 5 月 25 日 上午 7:59
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Pluk 2016 年 5 月 25 日 上午 8:13 
It's the exact game, it seems. OpenTTD is an effort to make an open-source copy of transport tycoon, it seems this game is either from the same publishers or just someone who decided to put OpenTTD on Steam.

https://www.openttd.org/en/screenshot/1.4/02-opengfx-1920x1200
最后由 Pluk 编辑于; 2016 年 5 月 25 日 上午 8:14
Rj0lnir 2016 年 5 月 25 日 上午 8:17 
It certainly looks exactly like Transport Tycoon. So probably what Pluk said.
Pluk 2016 年 5 月 25 日 上午 8:17 
From the other topics, it seems they are not the same but rather "competitors" of sorts, as both are free games based on Transport Tycoon.
Leartin Dialonis 2016 年 5 月 25 日 上午 8:52 
It's definitelly NOT OpenTTD. It's actually older than OpenTTD and plays quite differently after a while. But sure, it is similar to the original Transport Tycoon (or any other game of the genre)
Mandula 2016 年 5 月 25 日 上午 10:07 
I think I'll just stick with OpenTTD.
Nachbars Lumpi 2016 年 5 月 25 日 上午 11:06 
引用自 Mandula
I think I'll just stick with OpenTTD.

This. Me too. Also the nostalgia keeps me playing it. I played TTD already like 20 years ago. The good old tunnel money cheat ... :D
最后由 Nachbars Lumpi 编辑于; 2016 年 5 月 25 日 上午 11:06
Carl_knows_not 2016 年 5 月 25 日 下午 12:28 
It has similar heritage, but both OTTD and Simutrans have been in development separately for over a decade. Obviously they are both inspired by the classic TTD.
Buntkreuz 2016 年 5 月 25 日 下午 3:35 
it just looks to me, as if the guys behind OTTD actually tried to innovate, expand, overhaul the old Transport Tycoon game so much that you already have like endless possibilities due to "mods" (the packages you can download) and they not only fixed issues, but also got new features, mechanics and stuff into the game while also getting stuff in the UI and so on up to date.
This one here only seems like it but actually less "done". Like it works on modern OS and it looks good and so on but not as if it has already as much effort put into it to expand on the basic idea.
I guess for now i stick to OTTD. At the moment it seems to me that OTTD is more open and gives me more possibilities to do what i want with it while this seems to be more barebones.
FiddleSticks 2016 年 5 月 25 日 下午 3:44 
OpenTTD is the official open source continuation of Transport Tycoon Deluxe.

Google it =) It is so good, you can also google "OpenTTD portable" to run it from a flashdrive.

It's even available on android! From dev "pelya" (On which I advise you NOT to check HD graphics, as most mid-range devices will not be able to handle this. and I think even high-end devices might not get smooth gameplay)
jamespetts 2016 年 5 月 25 日 下午 5:30 
引用自 Pluk
It's the exact game, it seems. OpenTTD is an effort to make an open-source copy of transport tycoon, it seems this game is either from the same publishers or just someone who decided to put OpenTTD on Steam.

https://www.openttd.org/en/screenshot/1.4/02-opengfx-1920x1200

Simutrans is not Open TTD, nor is it from the same people who make Open TTD. It is a similar type of game to Open TTD, but is different in a number of significant ways: for example, in Simutrans, the passengers each have specific destinations.
maculator 2016 年 6 月 26 日 上午 10:29 
In simutrans each bus/train etc. makes its own profit there is no such thing like merging profits over a route. Therefore in Simutrans you wont get some strange negativ income, you can always exactly see what wich vehicel earns.
Buntkreuz 2016 年 6 月 26 日 上午 11:18 
引用自 maculator
In simutrans each bus/train etc. makes its own profit there is no such thing like merging profits over a route. Therefore in Simutrans you wont get some strange negativ income, you can always exactly see what wich vehicel earns.
which you can in Transport tycoon since....ever.
maculator 2016 年 6 月 26 日 下午 12:23 
引用自 NemesisZidar
引用自 maculator
In simutrans each bus/train etc. makes its own profit there is no such thing like merging profits over a route. Therefore in Simutrans you wont get some strange negativ income, you can always exactly see what wich vehicel earns.
which you can in Transport tycoon since....ever.
You simply can't.Its alway trying to merge profits over a route. This leaves you with some vehicles with high green numbers and many with huge red numbers. And if you open the window of a line the profit numbers say nothing about the real profit, you can't sort out wich lines make REAL profit. That killed the game for me. In simutrans I feel more comfortable because I have correct statistics for everything.
Buntkreuz 2016 年 6 月 26 日 下午 1:06 
引用自 maculator
引用自 NemesisZidar
which you can in Transport tycoon since....ever.
You simply can't.Its alway trying to merge profits over a route. This leaves you with some vehicles with high green numbers and many with huge red numbers. And if you open the window of a line the profit numbers say nothing about the real profit, you can't sort out wich lines make REAL profit. That killed the game for me. In simutrans I feel more comfortable because I have correct statistics for everything.
Which "Line" makes real profit?
In TT you set one vehicle to drive to set stations. You can set a unique route for every vehicle you own there, skipping stations or doing all of them on a route. You dont have "lines" that could merge a profit. In TT every vehicle does either profit or cost too much to be worth having. Its shown for every single vehicle.
So when you have lets say 6 bus stations in 5 cities and you own 20 personal transport vehicles, you can set routes for every vehicle and combine in which order they drive to these stations and which stations. Following your comment the game then would show me a "line" and its profits, which is not how it is done in TT, sorry but you are wrong. Out of these 20 transporters there could be 4 that make no profit because i have them skip a essential station, the game then shows me in a window how much they cost me a month and i can decide to scrap the route.
maculator 2016 年 6 月 26 日 下午 1:31 
Hard to explain in english. When a passenger travels via several different transportmethods, the profit gets split-up between those. So the problem ist that overall youre making +, but only 4 out of the 6 lines wich were used by the passenger get a positive profit. The other 2 make a huge negativ. Thats a problem how OTTD handels such things. And later in the game if you got hundrets of vehicles it just screws everything up becaus you're unable to tell what the ♥♥♥♥ is going on.

Edit: Found it: https://wiki.openttd.org/Negative_income_with_feeder_service this ruins the whole game.
最后由 maculator 编辑于; 2016 年 6 月 26 日 下午 1:35
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