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You are going to need at least an OpenGL 3.0 compatible 3D graphic card with at least 1 GB of RAM
Looking at your system specs that you mentioned, I would highly recommend looking at a complete comupter upgrade as the Phenom CPU is also questionable.
Ray
Jeff
As a follow up to my non starting AeroflyFs2 problem I updated my Nvidia driver to the latest 342.01 and then downloaded Glview to check the Opengl process being used. According to this program the graphics rendering are as follows:
Renderer GeForce 9800 GT/PCIe/SSE2
Adapter Ram 1024 MB
Monitor Viewsonic VX2433wm
Display 1920 x 1080 x 32bpp (60hz)
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate
Processor AMD Phenom II X4 965 Processor, Irwindale, Family fh, Model 4h, Stepping 3h
The Opengl is listed as follows:
Version 3.3
Driver Version 21.21.13.4202
Forceware 21.21.13.4201
14 Nov 16
this appears to me to indicate that Opengl 3.3 is being used which seems to cast a little doubt on the graphics card as the problem. The program will still not activate.
I had considered upgrading the graphics card and also the complete computer but need to check out Aerofly2 before spending too much as this will be the only Flight Sim that I will use. This machine previously ran FTX, Prepar3d etc with a lot of Orbx scenery additions without any problems, so to me it seems pretty capable. Would appreciate some more advice if possible to allow me to start this process.
I did run the file integrity test yesterday which seemed to turn out ok.
Ray
I'm holding at your video card. The NVidia specs for the 9800 GT is API at OpenGL 2.1 and DirectX 10. The spec'd model that I seen on the 9800 GT as 512Mb but I do believe that the 1GB card was made available so I will assume that you have that version (as seen in your specs). This card is not powerful enough to run FS 2 . Also, i'm still not sure even about your CPU, and since I can't test that particular model I can't confirm if it can also be your issue (Maybe someone else with that config can verify this). I've tested many different systems for compatability with FS 2 but for this one I don't have that GPU here anymore.
I have a NVidia Quadro FX3800 GraphikCard.
Work this Card with AeroFly FS2?
Herby
I am still pondering this problem and have a question which is 'Why does Aerofly not list any error condition which is causing the program to crash', I find it rather difficult to accept that the program just crashes, an error message stating 'incompatible graphics card' or a simple message as to where the program actually crashed would be a starting point for determining where the problem exists.
In order to attempt to fix the problem I will probably purchase a new Gigabyte GTX 1060 Xtreme Gaming 6GB video card, however it does seem like shooting in the dark and could be a waste of $500+ if the game still does not start.
As an aside I have no intention of asking for a refund even if I never get the program to work, not my style. But I really would like to know why this program doesn't seem to even get past the opening code line, there is a possibility that the start options page displays for a fraction of a second prior to the program crash..
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: aerofly_fs_2.exe
Application Version: 2.0.1.0
Application Timestamp: 58a1e4d1
Fault Module Name: aerofly_fs_2.exe
Fault Module Version: 2.0.1.0
Fault Module Timestamp: 58a1e4d1
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 000000000022694f
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.1
Locale ID: 5129
Additional Information 1: 0850
Additional Information 2: 0850bb0e882ec9d87cd4921a9c7a3c3f
Additional Information 3: 1d4a
Additional Information 4: 1d4a625f843724b5b9eca3c1c516e8f5
This is the crash information provided by the Microsoft crash report which doesn't seem to say much. Just a question is the Application version 2.0.1.0 correct?.
Ray
Ray
aerofly writes a protocoll into this file c:\users\yourname\aerofly fs 2\tm.log
This file may help to find the error, perhaps it's necessary to be published.
The steam version was installed to Drive K on my machine and I noticed that the log stated that the config file was missing from Drive C and it created several files on Drive C which seems rather strange to me.
The log file details are below if anyone can make sense of them although it does appear to me to run into trouble when loading GL extensions.
0.00-tmmodule: (7 modules) (tmsystimer,1) (tmsteam,1) (tmrandom,5) (tmsysinputdevicejoystick,10) (tmatmosphere,10) (tm_magnetic_field,11) (tmsyssound,20)
0.00-tmmodule: init modules=(tmsystimer=ok) (tmsteam=ok) (tmrandom=1029436435) (magnetic field=(257 198147)) (tmsyssound=(default=Generic Software) (0:Generic Software) (version=1.1) (1.1)) done
0.30-tmmodule: Program version 2.0.1 EA3.82
0.30-tmmodule: Copyright (C) 1998-2017 IPACS
0.30-tmsyswin: memory=(physical=16382MB, avail=9687MB) (virtual=32763MB, avail=8388607MB) (40 in use)
0.30-tmsyswin: operating system (7.1)= Microsoft Windows 7 SP1
0.30-tmsyswin: monitor size = 520 290
0.31-tmmodule: fullscreen modes=(1024x768x32x60) (1024x768x32x70) (1024x768x32x75) (1152x864x32x75) (1280x768x32x60) (1280x800x32x60) (1280x960x32x60) (1280x1024x32x60) (1280x1024x32x75) (1360x768x32x60) (1366x768x32x60) (1600x900x32x59) (1600x1024x32x59) (1600x1200x32x60) (1680x1050x32x59) (1920x1080x32x60) (1440x900x16x60) (1400x1050x16x60)
0.36-tmsysmisc: preferred ui language = 'en-US'
0.36-aerofly_fs: preferred language = 'en'
0.36-aerofly: config folder = 'C:/Users/Ray/Documents/Aerofly FS 2/'
0.36-module_config: loading config file 'C:/Users/Ray/Documents/Aerofly FS 2/main.mcf = not found
0.36-tmsyswin: init window=(mdf=60Hz) (window=0x0x1920x1080) (client=1920x1080) (screen=1920x1080) (32bpp) (60Hz) (fullscreen)
1.25-tmmodule: initializing opengl= init window=(mdf=60Hz) (window=0x0x1920x1080) (client=1920x1080) (screen=1920x1080) (32bpp) (60Hz) (fullscreen)
1.80-tmmodule: creating opengl context= (createcontextarb) (trying OpenGL 4.5=fail) (trying OpenGL 4.3=fail) (trying OpenGL 4.1=fail) (trying OpenGL 3.2= ok) (samplebuffers=0) (colorbits=32) (stencilbits=0) (depthbits=0)
1.81-tmmodule: (core profile) (vendor=NVIDIA Corporation) (renderer=GeForce 9800 GT/PCIe/SSE2) (version=3.2.0)
1.81-tmwinogl: opengl caps=(viewport=8192.00x8192.00) (texsize=8192) (stencil=0) (texunits=96) (ps-texunits=32) (shading_language=1.50 NVIDIA via Cg compiler) (shader_max_vertex=4096) (shader_max_fragment=2048)
1.81-tmwinogl: gl extensions=GL_ARB_arrays_of_arrays GL_ARB_base_instance GL_ARB_blend_func_extended GL_ARB_clear_buffer_object GL_ARB_color_buffer_float GL_ARB_compressed_texture_pixel_storage GL_ARB_conservative_depth GL_ARB_copy_buffer GL_ARB_copy_image GL_ARB_debug_output GL_ARB_depth_buffer_float GL_ARB_depth_clamp GL_ARB_depth_texture GL_ARB_draw_buffers GL_ARB_draw_elements_base_vertex GL_ARB_draw_instanced GL_ARB_enhanced_layouts GL_ARB_ES2_compatibility GL_ARB_ES3_compatibility GL_ARB_explicit_attrib_location GL_ARB_explicit_uniform_location GL_ARB_fragment_coord_conventions GL_ARB_fragment_layer_viewport GL_ARB_fragment_program GL_ARB_fragment_program_shadow GL_ARB_fragment_shader GL_ARB_framebuffer_no_attachments GL_ARB_framebuffer_object GL_ARB_framebuffer_sRGB GL_ARB_geometry_shader4 GL_ARB_get_program_binary GL_ARB_half_float_pixel GL_ARB_half_float_vertex GL_ARB_imaging GL_ARB_instanced_arrays GL_ARB_internalformat_query GL_ARB_internalformat_query2 GL_ARB_invalidate_subdata GL_ARB_map_buffer_alignment GL_ARB_map_buffer_range GL_ARB_multi_bind GL_ARB_multisample GL_ARB_multitexture GL_ARB_occlusion_query GL_ARB_occlusion_query2 GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object GL_ARB_point_parameters GL_ARB_point_sprite GL_ARB_program_interface_query GL_ARB_provoking_vertex GL_ARB_robust_buffer_access_behavior GL_ARB_robustness GL_ARB_sampler_objects GL_ARB_seamless_cube_map GL_ARB_separate_shader_objects GL_ARB_shader_bit_encoding GL_ARB_shader_objects GL_ARB_shader_texture_lod GL_ARB_shading_language_100 GL_ARB_shading_language_420pack GL_ARB_shading_language_include GL_ARB_shading_language_packing GL_ARB_shadow GL_ARB_stencil_texturing GL_ARB_sync GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp GL_ARB_texture_buffer_object GL_ARB_texture_buffer_range GL_ARB_texture_compression GL_ARB_texture_compression_rgtc GL_ARB_texture_cube_map GL_ARB_texture_env_add GL_ARB_texture_env_combine GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3 GL_ARB_texture_float GL_ARB_texture_mirror_clamp_to_edge GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_ARB_texture_multisample GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two GL_ARB_texture_query_levels GL_ARB_texture_rectangle GL_ARB_texture_rg GL_ARB_texture_rgb10_a2ui GL_ARB_texture_stencil8 GL_ARB_texture_storage GL_ARB_texture_storage_multisample GL_ARB_texture_swizzle GL_ARB_texture_view GL_ARB_timer_query GL_ARB_transpose_matrix GL_ARB_uniform_buffer_object GL_ARB_vertex_array_bgra GL_ARB_vertex_array_object GL_ARB_vertex_attrib_binding GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object GL_ARB_vertex_program GL_ARB_vertex_shader GL_ARB_vertex_type_10f_11f_11f_rev GL_ARB_vertex_type_2_10_10_10_rev GL_ARB_viewport_array GL_ARB_window_pos GL_ATI_draw_buffers GL_ATI_texture_float GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once GL_S3_s3tc GL_EXT_texture_env_add GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_bindable_uniform GL_EXT_blend_color GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate GL_EXT_blend_func_separate GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array GL_EXT_Cg_shader GL_EXT_depth_bounds_test GL_EXT_direct_state_access GL_EXT_draw_buffers2 GL_EXT_draw_instanced GL_EXT_draw_range_elements GL_EXT_fog_coord GL_EXT_framebuffer_blit GL_EXT_framebuffer_multisample GL_EXTX_framebuffer_mixed_formats GL_EXT_framebuffer_multisample_blit_scaled GL_EXT_framebuffer_object GL_EXT_framebuffer_sRGB GL_EXT_geometry_shader4 GL_EXT_gpu_program_parameters GL_EXT_gpu_shader4 GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays GL_EXT_packed_depth_stencil GL_EXT_packed_float GL_EXT_packed_pixels GL_EXT_pixel_buffer_object GL_EXT_point_parameters GL_EXT_provoking_vertex GL_EXT_rescale_normal GL_EXT_secondary_color GL_EXT_separate_shader_objects GL_EXT_separate_specular_color GL_EXT_shader_integer_mix GL_EXT_shadow_funcs GL_EXT_stencil_two_side GL_EXT_stencil_wrap GL_EXT_texture3D GL_EXT_texture_array GL_EXT_texture_buffer_object GL_EXT_texture_compression_dxt1 GL_EXT_texture_compression_latc GL_EXT_texture_compression_rgtc GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc GL_EXT_texture_cube_map GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp GL_EXT_texture_env_combine GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3 GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic GL_EXT_texture_integer GL_EXT_texture_lod GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias GL_EXT_texture_mirror_clamp GL_EXT_texture_object GL_EXT_texture_shared_exponent GL_EXT_texture_sRGB GL_EXT_texture_sRGB_decode GL_EXT_texture_storage GL_EXT_texture_swizzle GL_EXT_timer_query GL_EXT_vertex_array GL_EXT_vertex_array_bgra GL_EXT_import_sync_object GL_IBM_rasterpos_clip GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_KHR_debug GL_KTX_buffer_region GL_NV_blend_square GL_NV_conditional_render GL_NV_copy_depth_to_color GL_NV_copy_image GL_NV_depth_buffer_float GL_NV_depth_clamp GL_NV_ES1_1_compatibility GL_NV_explicit_multisample GL_NV_fence GL_NV_float_buffer GL_NV_fog_distance GL_NV_fragment_program GL_NV_fragment_program_option GL_NV_fragment_program2 GL_NV_framebuffer_multisample_coverage GL_NV_geometry_shader4 GL_NV_gpu_program4 GL_NV_half_float GL_NV_light_max_exponent GL_NV_multisample_coverage GL_NV_multisample_filter_hint GL_NV_occlusion_query GL_NV_packed_depth_stencil GL_NV_parameter_buffer_object GL_NV_parameter_buffer_object2 GL_NV_path_rendering GL_NV_pixel_data_range GL_NV_point_sprite GL_NV_primitive_restart GL_NV_register_combiners GL_NV_register_combiners2 GL_NV_shader_buffer_load GL_NV_texgen_reflection GL_NV_texture_barrier GL_NV_texture_compression_vtc GL_NV_texture_env_combine4 GL_NV_texture_expand_normal GL_NV_texture_multisample GL_NV_texture_rectangle GL_NV_texture_shader GL_NV_texture_shader2 GL_NV_texture_shader3 GL_NV_transform_feedback GL_NV_vertex_array_range GL_NV_vertex_array_range2 GL_NV_vertex_buffer_unified_memory GL_NV_vertex_program GL_NV_vertex_program1_1 GL_NV_vertex_program2 GL_NV_vertex_program2_option GL_NV_vertex_program3 GL_NVX_conditional_render GL_NVX_gpu_memory_info GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap GL_SGIS_texture_lod GL_SGIX_depth_texture GL_SGIX_shadow GL_SUN_slice_accum GL_WIN_swap_hint WGL_EXT_swap_control
1.81-tmwinogl: wgl extensions=WGL_ARB_buffer_region WGL_ARB_create_context WGL_ARB_create_context_profile WGL_ARB_create_context_robustness WGL_ARB_extensions_string WGL_ARB_make_current_read WGL_ARB_multisample WGL_ARB_pbuffer WGL_ARB_pixel_format WGL_ARB_pixel_format_float WGL_ARB_render_texture WGL_ATI_pixel_format_float WGL_EXT_create_context_es_profile WGL_EXT_create_context_es2_profile WGL_EXT_extensions_string WGL_EXT_framebuffer_sRGB WGL_EXT_pixel_format_packed_float WGL_EXT_swap_control WGL_EXT_swap_control_tear WGL_NVX_DX_interop WGL_NV_DX_interop WGL_NV_DX_interop2 WGL_NV_delay_before_swap WGL_NV_float_buffer WGL_NV_multisample_coverage WGL_NV_render_depth_texture WGL_NV_render_texture_rectangle
1.81-tmmodule: extensions used=(anisotropic filter of 16.00) (primitive restart) (vertexarrayobject) (texture array) (gpu shader4) (explicit uniform location) (texture rgtc compression) (texture storage) (buffer storage) (dsa ext) (uniform_buffer_object) (drawelementsinstanced) (drawelementsbasevertex) (vertex_type_2_10_10_10_rev) (vertex_attrib_binding) (texturebufferobject) (occlusionquery) (multi_bind) (tessellation) (vertexbufferunifiedmemory/shaderbufferload) (invalidatesubdata) (sync) (timer_query) (debug output) (swapcontrol)
1.81-tmwinogl: gl: reducing max texture size from 8192 to 4096
1.81-tmmodule: gl: using depthmap texture array
1.81-tmwinogl: gl: nvidia meminfo: total=1024MB dedicated=1024MB)
1.81-tmwinogl: gl: possible total mem: 1024MB
1.83-aerofly: resolution=1920px ss=520.00mm density=3.69 -> csf=1.00 res=1920.000000
1.83-aerofly: create fbo = 1920 1080 samples=0
1.93-tmxgltext: shader 'shader/simple_tex0.tsh'
1.93-tmxgltext: (vsh:475:0(100) : error C7548: 'layout(location)' requires "#extension GL_ARB_explicit_attrib_location : enable" before use
1.93-tmxgltext: 0(100) : error C0000: ... or #extension GL_ARB_separate_shader_objects : enable
1.93-tmxgltext: 0(100) : error C0000: ... or #version 330
1.93-tmxgltext: 0(101) : error C7548: 'layout(location)' requires "#extension GL_ARB_explicit_attrib_location : enable" before use
1.93-tmxgltext: 0(101) : error C0000: ... or #extension GL_ARB_separate_shader_objects : enable
1.93-tmxgltext: 0(101) : error C0000: ... or #version 330
1.93-tmxgltext: ) ERROR: loading shader 'shader/simple_tex0.tsh'= vsh error((vsh:475:0(100) : error C7548: 'layout(location)' requires "#extension GL_ARB_explicit_attrib_location : enable" before use
1.93-tmxgltext: 0(100) : error C0000: ... or #extension GL_ARB_separate_shader_objects : enable
1.93-tmxgltext: 0(100) : error C0000: ... or #version 330
1.93-tmxgltext: 0(101) : error C7548: 'layout(location)' requires "#extension GL_ARB_explicit_attrib_location : enable" before use
1.93-tmxgltext: 0(101) : error C0000: ... or #extension GL_ARB_separate_shader_objects : enable
1.93-tmxgltext: 0(101) : error C0000: ... or #version 330
1.93-tmxgltext: ))
1.93-tmxglshader: ERROR: (error loading shader 'simple_tex0')
1.93-aerofly: window size=1920x1080 physical display size=520mmx290mm
1.94-tmxgltext: shader 'shader/paint.tsh'
1.94-tmxgltext: (vsh:949:0(100) : error C7548: 'layout(location)' requires "#extension GL_ARB_explicit_attrib_location : enable" before use
1.94-tmxgltext: 0(100) : error C0000: ... or #extension GL_ARB_separate_shader_objects : enable
1.94-tmxgltext: 0(100) : error C0000: ... or #version 330
1.94-tmxgltext: 0(101) : error C7548: 'layout(location)' requires "#extension GL_ARB_explicit_attrib_location : enable" before use
1.94-tmxgltext: 0(101) : error C0000: ... or #extension GL_ARB_separate_shader_objects : enable
1.94-tmxgltext: 0(101) : error C0000: ... or #version 330
1.94-tmxgltext: 0(102) : error C7548: 'layout(location)' requires "#extension GL_ARB_explicit_attrib_location : enable" before use
1.94-tmxgltext: 0(102) : error C0000: ... or #extension GL_ARB_separate_shader_objects : enable
1.94-tmxgltext: 0(102) : error C0000: ... or #version 330
1.94-tmxgltext: 0(103) : error C7548: 'layout(location)' requires "#extension GL_ARB_explicit_attrib_location : enable" before use
1.94-tmxgltext: 0(103) : error C0000: ... or #extension GL_ARB_separate_shader_objects : enable
1.94-tmxgltext: 0(103) : error C0000: ... or #version 330
1.94-tmxgltext: ) ERROR: loading shader 'shader/paint.tsh'= vsh error((vsh:949:0(100) : error C7548: 'layout(location)' requires "#extension GL_ARB_explicit_attrib_location : enable" before use
1.94-tmxgltext: 0(100) : error C0000: ... or #extension GL_ARB_separate_shader_objects : enable
1.94-tmxgltext: 0(100) : error C0000: ... or #version 330
1.94-tmxgltext: 0(101) : error C7548: 'layout(location)' requires "#extension GL_ARB_explicit_attrib_location : enable" before use
1.94-tmxgltext: 0(101) : error C0000: ... or #extension GL_ARB_separate_shader_objects : enable
1.94-tmxgltext: 0(101) : error C0000: ... or #version 330
1.94-tmxgltext: 0(102) : error C7548: 'layout(location)' requires "#extension GL_ARB_explicit_attrib_location : enable" before use
1.94-tmxgltext: 0(102) : error C0000: ... or #extension GL_ARB_separate_shader_objects : enable
1.94-tmxgltext: 0(102) : error C0000: ... or #version 330
1.94-tmxgltext: 0(103) : error C7548: 'layout(location)' requires "#extension GL_ARB_explicit_attrib_location : enable" before use
1.94-tmxgltext: 0(103) : error C0000: ... or #extension GL_ARB_separate_shader_objects : enable
1.94-tmxgltext: 0(103) : error C0000: ... or #version 330
1.94-tmxgltext: ))
1.94-tmxglshader: ERROR: (error loading shader 'paint')
1.94-tmrenderer_font: loading font 'texture/fontdisplay.tff'=(512x512) (h=37) (nc=8365) ok
1.95-tmrenderer_font: loading font 'texture/hud.tff'=(256x512) (h=48) (nc=123) ok
1.95-tmrenderer_font: loading font 'texture/fonthelp.tff'=(512x512) (h=51) (nc=256) ok
1.95-tmrenderer_font: loading font 'texture/segment.tff'=(256x512) (h=48) (nc=124) ok