How much $ did Daybreak make from selling h1z1 and how much $ from skins?

[slok]

The answer to this question is the reason why the game is still in early alpha state after 2 years. The skins are clearly their main source of income so instead of making a better game to sell more copies they produce more skins. Skins cost only a few work hours of 1 designer and generate alot more money than a game that 100 people worked on for months.



So all of you people who complain about the game not beeing developed, minor glitches never getting fixed and the feeling of beeing ignored by Daybreak. How many skins have you bought?

In my opinion alpha games should not be allowed to have microtransactions or even a currency before its complete. I think Daybreak will never finish H1Z1:KOTK, they will put minimal effort on it for as long as it's relevant.

Right now the game will die if 2-3 streamers speak their mind and quit.

[Frac]

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H1Z1 sold over a million copies a little more than a year ago. Do the math, they don't "need" to sell crates the way they do to pull a profit, the game itself is popular enough at the pricetag assuming they kept developing it properly. Hell, they could have even gone the route of selling other 'maps' for 5$ a piece and I'd be more than happy to pay for that.

Following in the footsteps of the generic 'pay to be unique' design of games in the last 5-10 years is just a joke - and sadly so many people are drawn to this it's no wonder they see they are nothing more than an online dress-up game and do very little in terms of gameplay.

You want an easy answer to how much DayBreak has made, it's simple math really:

TENS of millions.

Yeah theyve made tens of millions guranteed but most of that money goes into paying for serves, paying the employees for countless hours of hard work, taxes, and promotion. So selling skins is where most of the companies money is made in my opinion

[Chipz is BACK !]

Has anyone heard the silly rumor that Daybreak's profits are supporting the evil Russian President Vladimir Putin ? XD

[Frac]

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Początkowo opublikowane przez ФDeadEyeФ:

H1Z1 sold over a million copies a little more than a year ago. Do the math, they don't "need" to sell crates the way they do to pull a profit, the game itself is popular enough at the pricetag assuming they kept developing it properly. Hell, they could have even gone the route of selling other 'maps' for 5$ a piece and I'd be more than happy to pay for that.

Following in the footsteps of the generic 'pay to be unique' design of games in the last 5-10 years is just a joke - and sadly so many people are drawn to this it's no wonder they see they are nothing more than an online dress-up game and do very little in terms of gameplay.

You want an easy answer to how much DayBreak has made, it's simple math really:

TENS of millions.

Thank you for some clearity. As you say i too belive daybreak focus more on the dess-up content than actual gameplay.

No, they have just a couple people working on skins for "dress-up content" and then theres the actual game developing team that works on fixing bugs and improving the gameplay.

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Początkowo opublikowane przez ФDeadEyeФ:

H1Z1 sold over a million copies a little more than a year ago. Do the math, they don't "need" to sell crates the way they do to pull a profit, the game itself is popular enough at the pricetag assuming they kept developing it properly. Hell, they could have even gone the route of selling other 'maps' for 5$ a piece and I'd be more than happy to pay for that.

Following in the footsteps of the generic 'pay to be unique' design of games in the last 5-10 years is just a joke - and sadly so many people are drawn to this it's no wonder they see they are nothing more than an online dress-up game and do very little in terms of gameplay.

You want an easy answer to how much DayBreak has made, it's simple math really:

TENS of millions.

Yeah theyve made tens of millions guranteed but most of that money goes into paying for serves, paying the employees for countless hours of hard work, taxes, and promotion. So selling skins is where most of the companies money is made in my opinion

Why would most of thay money go to servers? Give me some facts on that please. I really doubt server cost are that horrible concidering its always down and unplayable. Try queue up as a EU player on sundays, 1 hour queue. I dont think they spend millions on servers, maybe they did and got fooled by some Indian tech support or what?

[Frac]

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Has anyone heard the silly rumor that Daybreak's profits are supporting the evil Russian President Vladimir Putin ? XD

This kid is actually going to beleive you xD

[slok]

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Początkowo opublikowane przez Mr. Potato Chips:

Has anyone heard the silly rumor that Daybreak's profits are supporting the evil Russian President Vladimir Putin ? XD

This kid is actually going to beleive you xD

kid here kid there, get me some facts and ill respect you. You are too navie to have a mature converstaion so you resort to insults and pushdowns. I'd rather see you leave the discussion than starting to attack me becasue of your failing arguments.

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Has anyone heard the silly rumor that Daybreak's profits are supporting the evil Russian President Vladimir Putin ? XD

Putin is concidered a saint compared any of the US candidates.

[Frac]

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Początkowo opublikowane przez FracTech MWJ:

Yeah theyve made tens of millions guranteed but most of that money goes into paying for serves, paying the employees for countless hours of hard work, taxes, and promotion. So selling skins is where most of the companies money is made in my opinion

Why would most of thay money go to servers? Give me some facts on that please. I really doubt server cost are that horrible concidering its always down and unplayable. Try queue up as a EU player on sundays, 1 hour queue. I dont think they spend millions on servers, maybe they did and got fooled by some Indian tech support or what?

This is how i know you dont know anything about game developing. Servers are very expensive and yeah they can go down just like any other server. Idk exact pricing but considering they are now pulling in 20,000+ people concerent daily, i would take an educated guess and say there server cost per month would be in the lower end of 6 figures

[Frac]

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Yeah theyve made tens of millions guranteed but most of that money goes into paying for serves, paying the employees for countless hours of hard work, taxes, and promotion. So selling skins is where most of the companies money is made in my opinion

Why would most of thay money go to servers? Give me some facts on that please. I really doubt server cost are that horrible concidering its always down and unplayable. Try queue up as a EU player on sundays, 1 hour queue. I dont think they spend millions on servers, maybe they did and got fooled by some Indian tech support or what?

Im calling you kid cause you complain more than a elementary school child that got is lunch money stolen from him

[slok]

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Początkowo opublikowane przez Baota:

Why would most of thay money go to servers? Give me some facts on that please. I really doubt server cost are that horrible concidering its always down and unplayable. Try queue up as a EU player on sundays, 1 hour queue. I dont think they spend millions on servers, maybe they did and got fooled by some Indian tech support or what?

Im calling you kid cause you complain more than a elementary school child that got is lunch money stolen from him

Right, but maybe you can challange my viewpoint instead of beeing personal?

I'd suppose that is too hard for someone who study gamedesign?

If my kid got his lunch money stolen i really hope he would complain. I hope you are a better at taking care of kids than you are at discussing stuff.

[Frac]

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Im calling you kid cause you complain more than a elementary school child that got is lunch money stolen from him

Right, but maybe you can challange my viewpoint instead of beeing personal?

I'd support that is too hard for someone who study gamedesign?

Im just in my first year of studying it so im not going to say i know everything about game design cause i dont yet. I jsut know the basics and its crazy hard to fix bugs and stuff like that. this game prolly has over 100million lines of code and when theres a bug the developers gotta go through that 100million lines of code and try and find the bug. Just a simply not capitalizing 1 word out of that code can cause a bug

[slok]

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Początkowo opublikowane przez Baota:

Right, but maybe you can challange my viewpoint instead of beeing personal?

I'd support that is too hard for someone who study gamedesign?

Im just in my first year of studying it so im not going to say i know everything about game design cause i dont yet. I jsut know the basics and its crazy hard to fix bugs and stuff like that. this game prolly has over 100million lines of code and when theres a bug the developers gotta go through that 100million lines of code and try and find the bug. Just a simply not capitalizing 1 word out of that code can cause a bug

Sounds just like any other game. Whats special about Daybreak and why does small fixes take 2+ years with the amout of money they are making?

[Frac]

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Im just in my first year of studying it so im not going to say i know everything about game design cause i dont yet. I jsut know the basics and its crazy hard to fix bugs and stuff like that. this game prolly has over 100million lines of code and when theres a bug the developers gotta go through that 100million lines of code and try and find the bug. Just a simply not capitalizing 1 word out of that code can cause a bug

Sounds just like any other game. Whats special about Daybreak and why does small fixes take 2+ years with the amout of money they are making?

Yeah they are making money just like any other business but they are only employing a small team for Kotk, dont forget that they have other games that they work on also. Maybe they need to hire more people to help with bug fixes but i doubt they will anytime soon

[Frac]

Name = str(input("What is your name?"))

Name = str.title(Name)

print ("Hello",Name+"!","This is my number game.")
print ("Would you like to play?")

Number = random.randint(0,10)
Number2 = random.randint(0,15)
guessedCorrectly = bool(False)

userNumber = int(input("Please guess a number.(0-10)"))
if userNumber == Number:
gussedCorrectly = True
print("You guessed correctly!")
userNumber = int(input("Try this.(0-15)"))
if userNumber == Number2:
print("You got Lucky")
else:
print("HAHA")
print("Goodbye.")
elif userNumber < Number:
print("No, my number is higher.")
again = str(input("Again?:Y/N"))
again = str.upper(again)
if again == "Y":
guessedCorrectly == False
userNumber2 = int(input("Please guess another number.(0-10)"))
if userNumber2 == Number:
guessedCorrectly = True
print("Good Job! Thanks for playing!")
elif userNumber2 < Number:
print("No too low, start over.")
elif userNumber2 > Number:
print("No too high, start over.")
else:
print("Goodbye.")
elif userNumber > Number:
print("No,my number is lower.")
again = str(input("Again?:Y/N"))
again = str.upper(again)
if again == "Y":
guessedCorrectly == False
userNumber2 = int(input("Please guess another number.(0-10)"))
if userNumber2 == Number:
guessedCorrectly = True
print("Thanks for playing!")
elif userNumber2 < Number:
print("No too low, start over.")
elif userNumber2 > Number:
print("No too high, start over.")
else:
print("Goodbye.")


This is just a number guessing game i wrote for college, if ANY of those letters or anything has an error of a missed capitalized word or missed a space then the game wont work. Idk if youve ever seen coding so i was just wanting to show you a very small example

[slok]

Początkowo opublikowane przez FracTech MWJ:

Name = str(input("What is your name?"))

Name = str.title(Name)

print ("Hello",Name+"!","This is my number game.")
print ("Would you like to play?")

Number = random.randint(0,10)
Number2 = random.randint(0,15)
guessedCorrectly = bool(False)

userNumber = int(input("Please guess a number.(0-10)"))
if userNumber == Number:
gussedCorrectly = True
print("You guessed correctly!")
userNumber = int(input("Try this.(0-15)"))
if userNumber == Number2:
print("You got Lucky")
else:
print("HAHA")
print("Goodbye.")
elif userNumber < Number:
print("No, my number is higher.")
again = str(input("Again?:Y/N"))
again = str.upper(again)
if again == "Y":
guessedCorrectly == False
userNumber2 = int(input("Please guess another number.(0-10)"))
if userNumber2 == Number:
guessedCorrectly = True
print("Good Job! Thanks for playing!")
elif userNumber2 < Number:
print("No too low, start over.")
elif userNumber2 > Number:
print("No too high, start over.")
else:
print("Goodbye.")
elif userNumber > Number:
print("No,my number is lower.")
again = str(input("Again?:Y/N"))
again = str.upper(again)
if again == "Y":
guessedCorrectly == False
userNumber2 = int(input("Please guess another number.(0-10)"))
if userNumber2 == Number:
guessedCorrectly = True
print("Thanks for playing!")
elif userNumber2 < Number:
print("No too low, start over.")
elif userNumber2 > Number:
print("No too high, start over.")
else:
print("Goodbye.")


This is just a number guessing game i wrote for college, if ANY of those letters or anything has an error of a missed capitalized word or missed a space then the game wont work. Idk if youve ever seen coding so i was just wanting to show you a very small example

I dont think that is the problem. I think the problem is that they dont need to develop the game because they have no legal preassure and no incitement in money.

[JRex]

I 100% agree with you. I do like the game it's fun. But there are so many bugs. The game is not welcoming to new people. The map could be reworked imo. The end game is all luck sometimes. If you are in a open field behind a rrock with no car and the gas pushed you out, your gonna get rekt.