Z1 Battle Royale

Z1 Battle Royale

slok Nov 5, 2016 @ 5:30pm
How much $ did Daybreak make from selling h1z1 and how much $ from skins?
The answer to this question is the reason why the game is still in early alpha state after 2 years. The skins are clearly their main source of income so instead of making a better game to sell more copies they produce more skins. Skins cost only a few work hours of 1 designer and generate alot more money than a game that 100 people worked on for months.



So all of you people who complain about the game not beeing developed, minor glitches never getting fixed and the feeling of beeing ignored by Daybreak. How many skins have you bought?

In my opinion alpha games should not be allowed to have microtransactions or even a currency before its complete. I think Daybreak will never finish H1Z1:KOTK, they will put minimal effort on it for as long as it's relevant.

Right now the game will die if 2-3 streamers speak their mind and quit.
Last edited by slok; Nov 5, 2016 @ 5:31pm
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HeisenBurger Nov 5, 2016 @ 5:31pm 
TOO MUCH
slok Nov 5, 2016 @ 5:38pm 

Originally posted by DBGMOD1:
If you have suggestions to improve the game, please make sure to post them at the link below.

https://www.reddit.com/r/h1z1

Another automated message. Just go through other posts and you will see mod copy that same phrase.

Your boss simply said "redirect everyone to reddit, dont actually talk to them".
Last edited by slok; Nov 5, 2016 @ 5:40pm
BENGA Nov 5, 2016 @ 5:42pm 
Originally posted by Baota:
Originally posted by DBGMOD1:
If you have suggestions to improve the game, please make sure to post them at the link below.

https://www.reddit.com/r/h1z1

Another automated message. Just go through other posts and you will see mod copy that same phrase.

Your boss simply said "redirect everyone to reddit, dont actually talk to them".
yeah this guy is kappa donk
BeWarned Nov 5, 2016 @ 6:50pm 
Originally posted by DBGMOD1:
I believe that I was talking to you :) I can give this feedback to the team, but it may not get to the correct team involved in feedback and suggestions. By posting it in the link that I gave, it will be seen by the correct people :). Just trying to help.
FeelsGood when a mod puts a person in thier place LMAO.

on the main topic.

I think there is different teams workin on different things, like 1 team works on cosmetics, while another patches/fixes/gameplay. And to the people that say "stop making crates and fix the game" Crates/skins bring revenue, revenue brings fixes.

And you're crazy if you think streamers quitting will end this game. sure the numbers will go down, but it wont die lol. Just another example of casuals thinking streamers are the best gamers ever lmao.
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slok Nov 5, 2016 @ 7:38pm 
Originally posted by DBGMOD1:
I believe that I was talking to you :) I can give this feedback to the team, but it may not get to the correct team involved in feedback and suggestions. By posting it in the link that I gave, it will be seen by the correct people :). Just trying to help.

i didnt give any feedback i just wondererd how much Daybreak make from the actual game and how much they make from skins.

I believe that the development is as slow as it is becaust the company does not have any incitement to make a better game as skins and crates generate more money than game copies.

If you could fix 1 minor bug or tweak something every time you release a new skin, this game would be in beta a long time ago. Where can i read about how the development is going?

Ultimately the answer is that im stupid for buying an early alpha game with no promise of getting a complete game, ever.
slok Nov 5, 2016 @ 8:20pm 
Originally posted by DBGMOD1:
Originally posted by Baota:

i didnt give any feedback i just wondererd how much Daybreak make from the actual game and how much they make from skins.

I believe that the development is as slow as it is becaust the company does not have any incitement to make a better game as skins and crates generate more money than game copies.

If you could fix 1 minor bug or tweak something every time you release a new skin, this game would be in beta a long time ago. Where can i read about how the development is going?

Ultimately the answer is that im stupid for buying an early alpha game with no promise of getting a complete game, ever.

But you see, that is a feedback or suggestion :)

Where can i read about the games progression plans?

BadMannersXD Nov 5, 2016 @ 9:10pm 
I think you mean roadmap
slok Nov 5, 2016 @ 9:25pm 
Originally posted by The Quad Cities:
I think you mean roadmap

Yes. Is there any?
GoodRatJack Nov 5, 2016 @ 10:18pm 
I agree 100%, if they make more money from skins than the game itself, there is no reason to improve the game:( just put out more skins
Originally posted by Baota:
Originally posted by The Quad Cities:
I think you mean roadmap

Yes. Is there any?
Chipz is BACK ! Nov 5, 2016 @ 10:40pm 
Originally posted by Baota:
Originally posted by DBGMOD1:

But you see, that is a feedback or suggestion :)

Where can i read about the games progression plans?

They update you every month with a producer's letter.
BeWarned Nov 5, 2016 @ 11:18pm 
Originally posted by BuddyCoYoung:
I agree 100%, if they make more money from skins than the game itself, there is no reason to improve the game:( just put out more skins
Originally posted by Baota:

Yes. Is there any?


You dont actually stand behind that backward thinking do you?
slok Nov 6, 2016 @ 6:53am 
Originally posted by BeWarned:
Originally posted by BuddyCoYoung:
I agree 100%, if they make more money from skins than the game itself, there is no reason to improve the game:( just put out more skins


You dont actually stand behind that backward thinking do you?


My logic is as follows; The company loses incitement to develope the game further if skins and crates generate more money and cost less to make.

A company is about making money, not pleasing everyone. Also, we all bought a uncomplete product with no promise of it ever beeing complete.

Discuss, why is it backwards? How would you run a company? Maybe you will aim for happier customers but less income?
Chipz is BACK ! Nov 6, 2016 @ 7:08am 
Originally posted by Baota:
Originally posted by BeWarned:


You dont actually stand behind that backward thinking do you?


My logic is as follows; The company loses incitement to develope the game further if skins and crates generate more money and cost less to make.

A company is about making money, not pleasing everyone. Also, we all bought a uncomplete product with no promise of it ever beeing complete.

Discuss, why is it backwards? How would you run a company? Maybe you will aim for happier customers but less income?

Guess what genius ? You agreed to purchase an "incomplete" product. Are you aware how long it takes to develop a video game ? Daybreak isn't a huge company compared to AAA software companies. They have made huge improvements to this game since the release almost 2 years ago. Is it perfect ? Not even close. Do they work hard on fixing bugs ? I believe so. What I'm getting at is people like you complain and complain and have no idea what entails to develop and complete such a huge game as KOTK.
Frac Nov 6, 2016 @ 7:12am 
Originally posted by Mr. Potato Chips:
Originally posted by Baota:


My logic is as follows; The company loses incitement to develope the game further if skins and crates generate more money and cost less to make.

A company is about making money, not pleasing everyone. Also, we all bought a uncomplete product with no promise of it ever beeing complete.

Discuss, why is it backwards? How would you run a company? Maybe you will aim for happier customers but less income?

Guess what genius ? You agreed to purchase an "incomplete" product. Are you aware how long it takes to develop a video game ? Daybreak isn't a huge company compared to AAA software companies. They have made huge improvements to this game since the release almost 2 years ago. Is it perfect ? Not even close. Do they work hard on fixing bugs ? I believe so. What I'm getting at is people like you complain and complain and have no idea what entails to develop and complete such a huge game as KOTK.
You're exactly right, im going to college for Game Development and Computer Programming. It takes a ♥♥♥♥ ton of time and effort to do anything with a game. These 12 year old keyboard warriors have no clue what it takes to develop a game lmao. Instead of complaining about the company and game, how about you start your own company and develop your own game.
slok Nov 6, 2016 @ 7:17am 
Originally posted by FracTech MWJ:
Originally posted by Mr. Potato Chips:

Guess what genius ? You agreed to purchase an "incomplete" product. Are you aware how long it takes to develop a video game ? Daybreak isn't a huge company compared to AAA software companies. They have made huge improvements to this game since the release almost 2 years ago. Is it perfect ? Not even close. Do they work hard on fixing bugs ? I believe so. What I'm getting at is people like you complain and complain and have no idea what entails to develop and complete such a huge game as KOTK.
You're exactly right, im going to college for Game Development and Computer Programming. It takes a ♥♥♥♥ ton of time and effort to do anything with a game. These 12 year old keyboard warriors have no clue what it takes to develop a game lmao. Instead of complaining about the company and game, how about you start your own company and develop your own game.


Statements like that are not worth anything when you can clearly see that the devs are working their asses off to produce crates and skins, but not fixing current issues. It's about prioritizing and they prio money, ofc.

If nobody bought skins the game would HAVE to be better. Thats my point, if you missed it.
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