Epic Battle Fantasy 5

Epic Battle Fantasy 5

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Almea Dec 15, 2018 @ 10:10pm
Refighting Some More "Unique" Enemies?
I'm not referring to the "big" boss enemies. But enemies more like monoliths or spybots. I found the spybot effect really good, but needed to sacrifice it for a weapon upgrade. Is there no way to refight some of these enemies?

I of course don't mean just these enemies, but these non-respawning enemies in general.
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Huzzy Dec 15, 2018 @ 10:11pm 
I think all normal enemies respawn though, just not the ones that block paths.

If you want the Spybots you can just go to Lance's fortress and you'll probably find some. They may not be the enemy that appears in the overworld, but they might be included there, specially if it's a fight with many waves.
Panterich Dec 15, 2018 @ 10:22pm 
You can find all of them in the gallery.
Almea Dec 15, 2018 @ 10:32pm 
Originally posted by Huzzah:
I think all normal enemies respawn though, just not the ones that block paths.

If you want the Spybots you can just go to Lance's fortress and you'll probably find some. They may not be the enemy that appears in the overworld, but they might be included there, specially if it's a fight with many waves.

I went through the entire castle and there were none. They don't respawn. And lance's fortress is the overworld, it's not a "dungeon".

Originally posted by Panterich:
You can find all of them in the gallery.

I'll assume I find out what that is layer.
Huzzy Dec 15, 2018 @ 10:39pm 
You want to refight specifically a certain fight, or be able to recapture certain enemies? The Pikachu slime fight to the right of the entrance of the fortress respawns, and it has 2 of the 3 bots.

Alas, I know it's not a dungeon... why is that relevant?
Panterich Dec 15, 2018 @ 10:39pm 
Thats top-left corner of the map. You need some medals to access the rooms with enemies there.

Originally posted by Huzzah:
I think all normal enemies respawn though, just not the ones that block paths.
I think that you can find all of the enemies somewhere, but its much easier to get them from gallery.
Huzzy Dec 15, 2018 @ 10:41pm 
Originally posted by Panterich:
Thats top-left corner of the map. You need some medals to access the rooms with enemies there.

Originally posted by Huzzah:
I think all normal enemies respawn though, just not the ones that block paths.
I think that you can find all of the enemies somewhere, but its much easier to get them from gallery.
I get that, but for capture purposes it's also interesting to look elsewhere. At the gallery they'll be scaled to your level, so it's harder to capture.

Anyways, two good choices you can make. Try the guaranteed but harder location, or search for an easier but uncertain option.
Almea Dec 15, 2018 @ 10:42pm 
Originally posted by Huzzah:
You want to refight specifically a certain fight, or be able to recapture certain enemies? The Pikachu slime fight to the right of the entrance of the fortress respawns, and it has 2 of the 3 bots.

Alas, I know it's not a dungeon... why is that relevant?

Ooohhhh. I misunderstood.

You said "They may not be the enemy that appears in the overworld". I thought that meant you thought it was a dungeon and not the overworld, but you meant it's not the enemy icon that you attack. My mistake.
Panterich Dec 15, 2018 @ 10:47pm 
Originally posted by Huzzah:
At the gallery they'll be scaled to your level, so it's harder to capture.
Sorry, can`t see how you`ve made that conclusion. If anything, it is easier, because you can shoot once with any attack and you won`t kill it, then summon putrid worm and do a capture.

Enemy level and game difficulty has no relevance with capture chance.
Huzzy Dec 15, 2018 @ 11:08pm 
Originally posted by Vis:
Ooohhhh. I misunderstood.

You said "They may not be the enemy that appears in the overworld". I thought that meant you thought it was a dungeon and not the overworld, but you meant it's not the enemy icon that you attack. My mistake.
My bad, guess I didn't say it well. Now you know!

Originally posted by Panterich:
Sorry, can`t see how you`ve made that conclusion. If anything, it is easier, because you can shoot once with any attack and you won`t kill it, then summon putrid worm and do a capture.

Enemy level and game difficulty has no relevance with capture chance.
Enemy level and game difficulty has no relevance with capture chance, yes, but if the enemy you want to capture is at the last wave of a 3-wave fight, it's easier to get there if the enemies in the first waves are several levels below you. Specially if you play on a higher difficulty.

However, if every single enemy appears on at least one first wave of a fight in the Grand Gallery, that'd be correct.

Also, does debuffing an enemy's evade beyond a certain percentage and hitting it for any damage guarantee a capture? That's new information to me, would be useful.
Panterich Dec 15, 2018 @ 11:39pm 
I think there are no 3-wave fights in the gallery, and 90% of enemies are on the first wave.
You can set needed difficulty before a fight and change it back afterwards.

Originally posted by Huzzah:
Also, does debuffing an enemy's evade beyond a certain percentage and hitting it for any damage guarantee a capture? That's new information to me, would be useful.
No, i was generalising, but for example with flybots (and they are like hardest from normal foes) 3 capture equips + evade debuf will result in guaranteed capture at ~65% hp.
Dolls under same circumstances will require ~77% hp.
Almea Dec 15, 2018 @ 11:56pm 
So you can really fight every enemy in the gallery? I'm here and I obviously haven't gotten all the medals (I have 33), but it doesn't seem like there's enough rooms for this. Unless the rest are all huge or they're in the room which needs every medal (which ain't happening)
Evildrake Dec 16, 2018 @ 12:36am 
Originally posted by Vis:
So you can really fight every enemy in the gallery? I'm here and I obviously haven't gotten all the medals (I have 33), but it doesn't seem like there's enough rooms for this. Unless the rest are all huge or they're in the room which needs every medal (which ain't happening)

The Fly bots are probably in one of those 50's rooms. Usually you can find between 2-4 groups of enemies with every new unlocked room. Mostly they are themed, like you have a room full of dolls, cats or dogs there are also rooms for other types.
Steelflame Dec 16, 2018 @ 1:48am 
You can't run into EVERY enemy in the gallery, but the vast vast majority of them are there. The enemies you can't find there are tied to the various mini-boss/boss/mega-boss rushes at the Temple of Trials.
Huzzy Dec 16, 2018 @ 7:38am 
Originally posted by Panterich:
You can set needed difficulty before a fight and change it back afterwards.
Changing the difficulty is not a valid point. I wouldn't want to lower my difficulty even if it's just for captures, and I'm sure there are more players who think so too.

Originally posted by Panterich:
No, i was generalising, but for example with flybots (and they are like hardest from normal foes) 3 capture equips + evade debuf will result in guaranteed capture at ~65% hp.
Dolls under same circumstances will require ~77% hp.
Following from the last point, then the difficulty you play on has a heavy impact on captures. There are also enemies like Defenders, Mammoths and Cosmic Monoliths in the Grand Gallery which would definitely be a greater effort to capture too, which I believe to be included in what OP said.

Anyway, you also need medals which the user might not have. Point is, capturing in the Grand Gallery is not objectively better than looking anywhere else outside of it.
Panterich Dec 16, 2018 @ 8:44am 
I think you are getting off the topic here. I respect the decision about the difficulty, but that is the first time you mention it, and OP wasn`t. Also it doesn`t change anything. You just go prepared for the enemy you want to capture. You are obviously enjoying the game, maybe you should make a guide with a list of where you can find each of the respawning foes.

I guess it was a mistake for me to change "small foes" into "normal foes" when i was writing. Of coarse the Defenders, Mammoths and Cosmic Monoliths are much harder. However, you will probably want to use Viking Monolith summon anyway, so just throw a 1-2 more debuffs (best are freeze, stun or bad luck) and they still will go easy with quite high amount of hp.

Objectively it is better to do what you like..
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Date Posted: Dec 15, 2018 @ 10:10pm
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