True ending?

[Karnettech]

I didn't manage to achieve the hinted true ending in my first completion. I doubt anyone knows the exact conditions yet, but still asking just in case.

[Rin]

Bump.

[NyX]

I read here on the forum that the Bard that exists in the Warp area tells you what character relationships need improving and you need to have good relationship between all characters (by having them do battles together) in order to achieve the best ending. I still haven't done that myself so can't confirm yet.

[Karnettech]

Bump.

[Sicarius]

I don't think I've got everything for the best ending, and I've already beat all the secret content. Confuse often does a bunch of actions I never use normally, so I think that cycles a bunch of new diologue. I think saying that a true ending exists makes it more confusing; it'd work better as a secret.

[Kestral]

My info comes from my brother and I's experience with the beta. I'm not sure how accurate it is now, but it's at least a starting point.

Once you have a full party, a npc appears in the warp area detailing which characters need to warm to each other. To do so, they need to fight together and either see the other use a specific move or have something specific happen to them. This triggers a line of dialogue with a character commenting on the stimulus. After a certain undetermined number of these dialogues, they are now friends. We don't know if there's a specific way to see who is a friend or not.

After the final battle, there are two separate endings: neutral and true, as we started calling them. They differ only through the final cutscene, so it's not like you're missing anything major either way. The neutral ending's cutscene specifically shows you which characters aren't friends and need to work on their relationship to get the true ending.

[Maria Cogumela]

So the way to do this is to put two characters in the same team and just....Use every skill?

[Kupo Games]

If a lot of people aren't getting the best ending after completing most of the content... I may need to lower the threshold for it.

[Maria Cogumela]

I imagine it's because not a lot of people use all the characters and neither all the skills. Does the bard actually change his sayings if dunno...Anna and Natz see eachother as little and big sister alike? That would help, would still be a bit of work tho.

[NyX]

Originally posted by Papai doido:

I imagine it's because not a lot of people use all the characters and neither all the skills. Does the bard actually change his sayings if dunno...Anna and Natz see eachother as little and big sister alike? That would help, would still be a bit of work tho.

I agree. Before reading things here on the forum about the Bard and special interactions between characters I realized that I never used certain skills of certain characters and I missed a lot of those interactions. I don't think that the threshold needs to be lowered, its fine as it is. It gives us an additional reason to use certain skills and combinations between characters that we wouldn't do otherwise. I still have plenty of things left to do in the game so by the time I finish with all the side content I will certaintly be also done with this.

And to answer your question from my experience, if you achieve friendship between 2 characters the Bard will simply stop saying that line how those 2 characters have problems.

[Isiforo.s]

Originally posted by Kupo Games:

If a lot of people aren't getting the best ending after completing most of the content... I may need to lower the threshold for it.

Or you could jump right into the game and see it with your own eyes. Oh wait, you're already in there.
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[BlackDragon]

The problem, for me, is that I'm at the very end of the endgame, and only two of the four 'relationships' are done... and what's left are nothing but super-challenging optional bosses and marathon-battles and whatnot, which REALLY don't give you the leeway to try new and interesting moves or juggle party-lineup for the sake of building relationships. You pretty much have to go with what works best.

Which means that if I want the True Ending, I'm basically just going to have to go 'grind relationship' with the less-effective characters. Which is just everyone who isn't Matt or Nat. Between Matt's tankiness and devastating physical attacks, and Nat's mastery of both healing and incredibly destructive magical attacks, everyone else just kinda' lacks behind by virtue of trying to 'balance' physical and magical power...

[V]

All the characters are effective, you can easily find use for any of them in any fight, and if you still need to grind relationships then unequip all gear that has between turn effects and get into a fight with only pandas, then just spam skip turn and you'll gain them very quickly.

[BlackDragon]

Wait, so relationship-growth is just based on spending turns together in a fight? I thought you had to use various skills to make the react to each other or something...

[NyX]

Originally posted by BlackDragon:

Wait, so relationship-growth is just based on spending turns together in a fight? I thought you had to use various skills to make the react to each other or something...

We can't really know for sure but it could be both. Maybe it all adds up. With more people experimenting and testing this we will find out eventually. But using various skills and having characters react to each other definitely helps from my experience. Natalie and Lance quickly got ''good relationship'' after using her 7th Heaven few times and him falling in love with her. But Matt and Lance are still not friends for me although I am using them always in all battles. So I think there is a hidden mmr that fills up by seeing special interactions and maybe with time spend in battles together.

[BlackDragon]

Well, the Developer just popped in here, so I suppose we could ask HIM... :P I mean, I dunno if it needs to be 'tuned down', but it definitely isn't something that just happens naturally, even if you get ALL the content done. I've seemingly run out of interactions, having used every skill and Limit several times, but I still need to build up three relationships... and it'd be nice to at LEAST know for sure if what I was doing actually HELPED.