3D dot game heroes?

[Biff Buttcus]

The graphics and even the title are blatant rip offs from 3D dot game heroes. I know you probably like that game and all but this isn't flattery, it's copying. It's really pathetic actually.

[Nargacuga]

Literally any voxel-based 3D pixel representation game will look like 3DGH. Because that's what it is, and what this is. You can use pixels in different ways, but that precise combination of styles will be very similar to this.

That said, I'm not saying this game is good or that it isn't copying it in other ways. Just that picking the graphics is probably the weakest place to try and assert it from.

[Biff Buttcus]

Why would it be the weakest place to assert it from if the reason is that they were copied? If they were bad, sure, but they were copied and that makes it very strong to assert it from. And how does the fact it uses the same art style a defence for copying it? That was exactly my point.

[Nargacuga]

Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear. I was saying that it didn't matter at all whether it was copied or not, since this precise graphical style has very little wiggle room for variances, due to how specific it is. It's a lot like saying that western-inspired 3D realistic low-saturation graphics is necessarily ripped off of Dark Souls. Just that the combination of traits is so specific that you can't really stray much without changing the graphical style entirely.

In this case, I'd think that a much better place to critique would be from a gameplay or story perspective, honestly. And to tell the truth, an inspiration isn't something that someone should try to denigrate, as all art is inspired by previous creations. Not making use of inspirations would simply produce art that absolutely nobody could relate to, as it'd be entirely seperate from human experience.

[Biff Buttcus]

But "western-inspired 3D realistic low-saturation graphics" isn't narrow enough or unique enough to be a trait of Dark Souls alone. This game is to 3D Dot Game Heroes what a "western-inspired 3D realistic low-saturation dark fantasy medieval dungeon game." The style of grapic 3D Dot Game Heroes has is too unique to itself and this game doesn't do anything to try to distance itself from 3D Dot Game Heroes either.

[Doomgriever]

Hello! 3D Dot Game Heroes was a big inspiration, (it's even mentioned in the game). My intention is more of a "homage" for 3DGH rather than a "blatant copy". The gameplay is VERY different afterall. The name is a joke based on 3DGH and as Nargacuga very well said, there is very little wiggle room for the voxel artstyle. The way I see it is, if you look at pixel RPG (rpg maker etc.) there are thousands of games that look exactly the same, but they are usually judged on their story, not their art being "copied". There aren't really that many voxel RPGs out there (yet), but it should fall into the same category, an artstyle that will resemble with many other voxel games. That being said, 3D Dot Game Heroes is an awesome game :) but my game is quite different.

[Biff Buttcus]

But don't you think there's some kind of line between homage and copying? Don't you think it's a little too far?

[Doomgriever]

There defenitely is. But gameplaywise they are vastly different from eachother, I can't think of a single thing they share. So it's not a copy of 3DGH. Even the models are different, except for the base character proportions, and that's because of the very small wiggle room for voxels. If you play it, you'll realize they are not as similar as you'd think.

[froggunma]

As someone who wants more cute voxel-styled games that are actually finished and for PC, I can't help but feel you'd probably get more out of your argument if you went after... literally any of the other Minecraftbuts on the steam store at the moment, which shamelessly crib both Minecraft's aesthetics (blocks!) and gameplay (you can place blocks and dig them up again!).

*there's* your line between homage and copying. This game isn't it.

[Boner Queef]

Originally posted by Biff Buttcus:

But don't you think there's some kind of line between homage and copying? Don't you think it's a little too far?

This dev seems super nice and willing to engage their community. And this dev is also correct in everything they've stated so far. It most certainly is an homage, and one that is very welcome to many fans of that particular game. Seeing as Atlus tends to drop the ball on localization and porting, this will probably be as close as we get to ever seeing it's style of game on PC. Just because an art style is similar doesn't mean it's a blatant rip off. There are dozens of examples that could be given to prove just how wrong you are for picking on this dev. You evidently do not know the differences between these two games; and to be frank, they're both wildly different. That can be seen from the video presentation alone.

And since nobody else has said it yet, I will.

You're a bigfatmeanie.

Now that we've got that out of the way...

Doomgriever, I am going to buy your game now. Because A) I like the art style and presentation and more importantly B) screw the OP.

I enjoyed 3DGH but I also thought it was arbitrarily difficult and funny enough...a Zelda ripoff. I would have probably have liked it more if it was your game to begin with. So, whatever this hater thought he was going to accomplish here (being it pitchforks or generally bored enough to drive people away), they failed.

Enjoy my money. I'll enjoy your game. Screw the haters.

[Doomgriever]

Thanx @Prepare Ur Anus :)

[skalsonPL]

Besides that 3D Dot Game Heroes never came up to PC users, so if you find any similarities (there are some, but i can't say its copy) its better for ya, cause 3DDGH was awesome. And 3DRPG also is.

[KitKat]

Boo hoo, by your logic Borderlands must be a shameless ripoff of XIII because they both are cel-shaded first-person shooters, and Underrail is a shameless ripoff of Metal Max because they both are sprite-based post-apocalyptic RPGs. Astonishing, to say the least.

[Biff Buttcus]

Originally posted by KitKat:

Boo hoo, by your logic Borderlands must be a shameless ripoff of XIII because they both are cel-shaded first-person shooters, and Underrail is a shameless ripoff of Metal Max because they both are sprite-based post-apocalyptic RPGs. Astonishing, to say the least.

Really? Do you not see how they look alike? All games you mentioned don't. This is ridiculous.

[sitebender]

And 3D Dot Heroes is a rip off of Zelda. No one cares. Everything has been done. The game is nothing like 3D Dot Heroes though. I'd rather play that.

[RedMenace]

Enjoying the game so far.

Durr hurr every game is a rip-off on Zelda. I dun curr.