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However, I have to agree... Lesnitsky is clearly just plain evil and, if you don't kill him, it's likely that he's going to go on to kill many innocents, so killing him is actually the moral thing to do, no question about it. Even the Dark One kid understands that.
I don't know about Pavel. Apparently he feels no hostility. It's possible he's simply extremely misguided in his devotion to his faction and unable to intellectually realize that his actions are evil (similar to, say, a religious zealot thinking he's doing his god's righteous work), but of course that doesn't change much to the practical decision: no matter his intentions or beliefs, if he's a danger, he has to be put down.
It's entirely possible that the game designers aren't particularly good judges of morality, or maybe killing has a moral action was deemed "politically" unacceptable by someone in Marketing, who knows.
I got to admit I disagree with their decision on this (assuming sparing Lesnitsky really is considered the morally superior path), and either way I don't like game designers arbitrarily judging my actions' morality.
With Lesnitsky, the Dark Child actually says its worse to kill him and with Pavel he says that he now understands forgiveness. And these just do not square with me at all. Perhaps traitors is not the best way to describe them, although I still think that they are - if you're ordered to betray, you're still a traitor. But the bioweapon point is what really nails it for me. They were both fully aware of what was going to happen to those people and that just cannot be fogiven, say what you will.
You have been warned...
what about gta4? highest rated game of all time and it has all sorts of politically incorrect things.
The triple A releases of the last 10 years contradict that, don't you think? Some of the highest grossing and highest rated games have been about nothing but mindless murder, with the GTA games being just the highlights. In MLL there is actually a good case for killingLesnitsky and Morozov - you have been a direct witness to and a victim of their absolutely horrendous crimes. To be honest I would have no problem at all if they could have just put in a cutscene or something to indicate that they have faced some sort of justice, like being caught and court-martialed by the Spartans. They mention Korbut dying but nothing about these two.
On a related note, I'm replaying Dishonored right now and the system there is better to my mind: chaos vs order. It avoids issues like the ones raised here by simply not making a moral judgment on your actions but still implements consequences. Its not wrong to kill or right to spare, just that each will have a plausible consequence on how the world will react.
Lestnitsky totally deserve death I agree. As for Pavel, I think it depends what you think the hands will do to him. If it's simple death, sure, you can make the case that he deserves it. However it seemed to me it was a fate worst than death, something like eternal damnation and pain. In that case, saving him is, i think, morally valid.
Also note that Artyom did genocide the dark ones despite some of the clues, because he thought it was the only way to save his station. So"forgiving" Pavel incitate the young dark one to forgive Artyom.
Although they should have expanded on it, I think Pavel's behaviour is somewhat understandable. Afaik, he's been raised as a red, so he most likely has trouble accepting that his side is pretty terrible.
Pavel also talk about discipline, and uniting the metro, I believe. Reminds me of a conversation 2 reich soldier had in Metro 2033 ("the rest of the metro falls apart, but not us, because we have order, and if we don't impose our order on the whole metro, it'll be the apocalypse")
Wars in the metro against the reich and other station seem to be fairly common, aswell, so he probably think these will just continue to weaken the whole metro, until one sides wins, or humanity dies.
Can there be a lasting peace between the red and the reich ? probably not, so killing many innocents to impose the red supremacy could, in Pavel's mind, be a necessary evil for the survival of human kind, ie, it would save more people in the end.
Note aswell that before betraying Artyom, Pavel and him saved each others and were brother in arms. You also see him spare a Reich soldier that surrenders. So you could say Pavel is a decent guy at heart, but blinded by ideals and his faith in the communist regime.
In retrospect, I would have wanted the story to have Pavel and Lesnitsky switched places so that you could leave Lesnitsky to the damned. I would have been quite happy with that.
errm, the little dark one does tell you to decide, and you were allowed to choose for lestnisky
It's quite obvious really, if you bother to hit a movement key.
I don't see how they could make it much clearer without overly holding your hand.
You didn't know you could shoot the monsters on the back of the bear ?