*SPOILER* Which ending is canon? *SPOILER*

[Branik]

Which ending is the canon? The one where artyom dies and destroys D6 or the one, where the dark ones come to help?

[Komo]

The one that will be used in the Metro 2035 book by Glukhovsky is the canon one.

We'll have to wait till next summer to find out, however, since that's the estimated release date for the book.

[Nix]

Going by NPC dialogue, Artyom's death is canon.

If I didn't mishear it, they mention how all the nazi's and reds at the bridge were dead. I think they were talking about the part in 2033 where you hide under a minecart. That means Artyom was a killer in 2033, and you can only get the dark ones ending in last light by not killing anyone (unless you absolutely have to).

Early on in last light Artyom also says he's going after the dark one child to finish what he started.

[Komo]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Nerfed:

That means Artyom was a killer in 2033, and you can only get the dark ones ending in last light by not killing anyone (unless you absolutely have to).

Nope, that is incorrect. Artyom can kill every single human in the game (Lost tunnels, Dry, Frontline, Trolley Combat, Outpost and Black Station) and still get a True ending where he can make a choice, which leads to both Enlightened and Ranger endings.

[Nix]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Mr. Komo:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Nerfed:

That means Artyom was a killer in 2033, and you can only get the dark ones ending in last light by not killing anyone (unless you absolutely have to).

Nope, that is incorrect. Artyom can kill every single human in the game (Lost tunnels, Dry, Frontline, Trolley Combat, Outpost and Black Station) and still get a good ending.

Pretty sure those are 2033 stages.

[Komo]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Nerfed:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Mr. Komo:

Nope, that is incorrect. Artyom can kill every single human in the game (Lost tunnels, Dry, Frontline, Trolley Combat, Outpost and Black Station) and still get a good ending.

Pretty sure those are 2033 stages.

Right.

What I mean is that Artyom doesn't have to be a murderer to get a bad ending and at the same time he doesn't have to be a pacifist to get a good one in the first game.

This means that the canon ending of M2033 used for MLL is in no way an indication of which ending of MLL is the true one.

[Branik]

Nerfed: you are talking about Metro 2033. The Metro 2033 BAD ENDING is canon... I was asking about Last Light endings...

[WarboyFitz]

SPOILER



Since Artyom is still alive in metro 2034 (book), and Miller/Melnik is in a wheelchair but alive too, we can safely assume that the "good ending" is considered canon. I noted that the good ending in M:LL is easier to get than in 2033. I killed many people in my playtrough and still managed to get good karma at the end. All the events in Last light happened before 2034 (book)
and the outbreak initiated by the commies at oktyabrskaya has spread to other stations.

[Komo]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Fitz:

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Since Artyom is still alive in metro 2034 (book), and Miller/Melnik is in a wheelchair but alive too, we can safely assume that the "good ending" is considered canon. I noted that the good ending in M:LL is easier to get than in 2033. I killed many people in my playtrough and still managed to get good karma at the end. All the events in Last light happened before 2034 (book)
and the outbreak initiated by the commies at oktyabrskaya has spread to other stations.

Good points, but it has been explicitly stated both by 4A Games and Glukhovsky that M2034 and Last Light are unrelated.

Metro 2033 book -> Gospel of Artyom story/comic -> Metro 2035
Metro 2033 game -> Gospel of Artyom story/comic -> Metro Last Light

[ietso]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Fitz:

SPOILER



Since Artyom is still alive in metro 2034 (book), and Miller/Melnik is in a wheelchair but alive too, we can safely assume that the "good ending" is considered canon. I noted that the good ending in M:LL is easier to get than in 2033. I killed many people in my playtrough and still managed to get good karma at the end. All the events in Last light happened before 2034 (book)
and the outbreak initiated by the commies at oktyabrskaya has spread to other stations.

Lol, the good ending is way easier to get in Metro 2033. (Unless my game glitched my moral gone, just like it did with my diary pages and kills)

[WarboyFitz]

I think that the "unrelated" refer to the fact that the events of Last Light are not happening during the course of Metro 2034 but a few months before, and that the story of M:LL is not bound to be in a book.It could explain the fact that Metro 2034 (game) got a name change in the developpement process, to be the game we have today under the name last light.
So, as far as i know, the aftermath of the good ending is more or less what we can read in Metro 2034 (Artyom is only mentioned, it is stated the he's married (with Anna maybe?))

The Last Light scenario was made to fill the gap between 2033 and 2034, i think (i could be totally wrong though).

[Komo]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Fitz:

The Last Light scenario was made to fill the gap between 2033 and 2034, i think (i could be totally wrong though).

Gospel of Artyom was made to tie together the plots of M2033 and M2035.

M2035 was made specifically for Last Light since M2034 plotline could not be fitted into a game format due to overload of philosophy, inner monologues and lack of action.

Video game and book series seem to have two different timelines at this point.

[Runnerblank]

Has to be Good Ending.
Last Light was about redemption.

Also the narrator of the story is an older Artyom.

[WarboyFitz]

Ok, i'm not 100% positive about it, got any source of Glukhovsky saying that the storyline in the game and book are different? I know that he was involved in the writting of the game, but i'm not sure he really wrote an "alternative world" just for the game. I agree with the fact that 2034 would have been difficult to translate in term of gameplay situation, but Last Light can be considered as some sort of prequel to 2034 for now.
So in my mind, the correct timeline would be:
2033 (book/game)>Last Light (game)> 2034 (book)> 2035(book/game maybe?)
And The Gospel according to Artyom between 2033 and Last Light.

[Komo]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Fitz:

So in my mind, the correct timeline would be:
2033 (book/game)>Last Light (game)> 2034 (book)> 2035(book/game maybe?)
And The Gospel according to Artyom between 2033 and Last Light.

Metro 2035 is Metro: Last Light: http://goo.gl/7rDtx

Book and game timelines are similar at key points, but are essentially separate. A lot of plot points from M2033 book never happened in M2033 game and vice versa.

SPOILERS WARNING! Here is the chart of timelines[goo.gl] for both the book and the game series.

[WarboyFitz]

Ok, thanks for the intel :)
I knew that 2033 (book) and 2033 (game) were different (finshed the game/ read the novel), but i wasn't aware that 2035 was bound to Last Light.
So, next BIG question: what outcome can we expect from Metro 2035? Hard to tell for now.